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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. 11:36 - Jun 24 with 5716 views

This current situation is perfect for them imho. Burley’s coaching ability to instil a style of play and bring on young players coupled with Dyer’s enthusiasm and contacts in the modern game. No guarantee it would work of course but I would be fully behind it. Evans just isn’t a progressive thinker sadly.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 11:43 - Jun 24 with 4120 views

Oldsmoker

I agree with you to some degree Coco but I really don't want to stand in front of a firing squad with you.
You should expect some flak.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 11:54 - Jun 24 with 4082 views

BloomBlue

I would prefer Dyer and MM. Burley has been out of the game too long and was a failure here at the end with relegation and some bad transfer decisions. MM has a great ability to get good players for a little money and instill loyalty as shown with some players leaving who would have stayed if MM stayed, if he can help Dyer with that knowledge and it would be better for the Town & Dyer short and long-term

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 11:54 - Jun 24 with 4080 views

Mullet

You were calling for Dyer in 2016 and wondered why you got shot down? Really?

There's progressive and there's replacing the best manager he's had with a rookie and a bloke with years out of the game. Had he done that Evans would be even more of a laughing stock and the football world would have erupted most likely.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 12:05 - Jun 24 with 4062 views

hampstead_blue

I fully agree with your sentiment but we need a very large broom to get rid of a few players first.

I will start with Chambers. Now, like you I get shot down by this but I feel he is a blockage to progress.

An experienced coach with a vibrant young #2 is a great idea. GB and KD, why not. WHat else do we have to lose?
Our dignity was shrunk in the wash years ago. We're pretty naked tbh.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 12:05 - Jun 24 with 4060 views

Coco

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 11:54 - Jun 24 by Mullet
You were calling for Dyer in 2016 and wondered why you got shot down? Really? There's progressive and there's replacing the best manager he's had with a rookie and a bloke with years out of the game. Had he done that Evans would be even more of a laughing stock and the football world would have erupted most likely.

Back then it was as assistant to Burley. Just felt it was the time for a club reset like when Liverpool went back to Dalglish briefly. Only my opinion bor, wouldn’t worked out any worse in hindsight eh

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 12:10 - Jun 24 with 4047 views

BlueBadger

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 11:54 - Jun 24 by BloomBlue

I'll take Burley's failures over Lameberts 'successes' any day.

[Post edited 24 Jun 2020 16:11]

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 12:21 - Jun 24 with 3988 views

Mullet

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 12:05 - Jun 24 by Coco
Back then it was as assistant to Burley. Just felt it was the time for a club reset like when Liverpool went back to Dalglish briefly. Only my opinion bor, wouldn’t worked out any worse in hindsight eh

Why did we need a reset in 2016? Now it makes sense, but getting rid of Mick never has in that sense.

I get a lot of people have rewritten history out of embarrassment, but finishing 7th only saw real enmity from the most impatient and deluded.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:05 - Jun 24 with 3904 views

TheTrueBlue1878

I need full written evidence that you were calling for Dyer in 2016.

I have to say Burley / Dyer is a much better option and certainly could work, rather than just Dyer.

[Post edited 24 Jun 2020 13:05]

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:06 - Jun 24 with 3888 views

TheTrueBlue1878

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 12:05 - Jun 24 by hampstead_blue
I fully agree with your sentiment but we need a very large broom to get rid of a few players first. I will start with Chambers. Now, like you I get shot down by this but I feel he is a blockage to progress. An experienced coach with a vibrant young #2 is a great idea. GB and KD, why not. WHat else do we have to lose? Our dignity was shrunk in the wash years ago. We're pretty naked tbh.

I agree with this, club needs an overhaul, done correctly. So much dead wood at this club.

Chambers
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Donacien
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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:07 - Jun 24 with 3887 views

tractorboy1978

Dyer isn't overly glowing of George in his book.

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:10 - Jun 24 with 3871 views

Libero

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 11:54 - Jun 24 by BloomBlue

Gareth Bale,
Alex Oxlaide-Chamberlain,
Theo Walcott,
Adam Lallana,
Wilf Zaha,
Nathanial Clyne,
Darren Ambrose,
Titus Bramble,
Darren Bent,
Kieron Dyer,
Craig Gordon,

All players Burley cultivated and improved, most of those are still playing today.

I can't subscribe to this idea that Burley's been away from the game "too long" - do you think he's not watching football? Manager's like Burley never stop learning and studying the game is second nature to them.

What is it you think he's going to be woefully out of touch with that he's missed between 2012 - 2020?

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:10 - Jun 24 with 3870 views

TJS

I'd take any combination of Dyer/Burley/Magilton now without even bothering with an interview.

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:11 - Jun 24 with 3866 views

Libero

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:07 - Jun 24 by tractorboy1978
Dyer isn't overly glowing of George in his book.

I'm not saying you're wrong as it's been a while but I've read the book and can't say I remember picking that up from it, is there a passage in particular that gave you that impression?

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:18 - Jun 24 with 3841 views

Herbivore

4 years ago it would have been madness. Now we don't have an awful lot to lose so getting a couple of club legends in, one experienced and one just starting out, makes sense. I'd see Dyer leading more on the coaching than Burley though, given how long it's been since Burley stepped on to a training ground. Dyer has been doing coaching, albeit at youth level, and getting his badges. I'd see Burley being more of a guiding hand and doing some of the more management stuff, like overseeing scouting and recruitment and working on the links between the academy and first team.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:41 - Jun 24 with 3765 views

jeera

I'm not against it in principle, but isn't that sort of assuming they'd want it as a partnership or even get along?

I think we have this vision of the older, wiser experienced head of George watching over the dynamic younger Kieran and it all seems a bit romantic to me.

I wonder if the reality would be the same.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:46 - Jun 24 with 3758 views

Cheltenham_Blue

We all thought he was being progressive when appointing a young up and coming manager from the lower leagues though.

Look how well that turned out.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 15:12 - Jun 24 with 3648 views

26_Paz

One has been out of the game for too long and one has zero experience. Has Dyer even expressed any interest in becoming a manager? I’d be looking more at John Mcgreal

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The Paz Man

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 15:16 - Jun 24 with 3641 views

DanTheMan

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 15:12 - Jun 24 by 26_Paz
One has been out of the game for too long and one has zero experience. Has Dyer even expressed any interest in becoming a manager? I’d be looking more at John Mcgreal [Post edited 24 Jun 2020 15:13]

I'm fairly certain Dyer has said he wants to move into management.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 15:25 - Jun 24 with 3618 views

Chrisd

Regardless of how long GB has been out of the game, he knows football and he understands how to get a team playing, that never changes. More importantly, he knows the club. Someone young working alongside him willing to learn, like Dyer, with his successful Town career makes total sense. This type of appointment probably would have the right impact with many of us disgruntled Town fans currently. Sadly, we've got 5 years of PL to look forward to.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 15:51 - Jun 24 with 3577 views

TheTrueBlue1878

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:10 - Jun 24 by Libero

To be fair to Burley, professionals talk so highly of him in regards to help their development as young pro.

I remember reading an Ambrose / Bent article where they really shone him a very good light in that regards.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 16:22 - Jun 24 with 3529 views

Libero

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 15:51 - Jun 24 by TheTrueBlue1878
To be fair to Burley, professionals talk so highly of him in regards to help their development as young pro. I remember reading an Ambrose / Bent article where they really shone him a very good light in that regards.

It’s clear that Burnley’s first and foremost a great coach, not many managers were as hands on in player development back when Burley was at the helm.

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 16:52 - Jun 24 with 3478 views

tractorboy1978

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:11 - Jun 24 by Libero
I'm not saying you're wrong as it's been a while but I've read the book and can't say I remember picking that up from it, is there a passage in particular that gave you that impression?

It's been a while since I read it too but I certainly got the vibe he could take or leave Burley. There was an issue about a loyalty bonus after he left too IIRC and he felt like Burley/Sheepy shafted him.

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 17:20 - Jun 24 with 3439 views

Radlett_blue

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 16:52 - Jun 24 by tractorboy1978
It's been a while since I read it too but I certainly got the vibe he could take or leave Burley. There was an issue about a loyalty bonus after he left too IIRC and he felt like Burley/Sheepy shafted him.

Was that one of those issues when a player leaves for a bigger club, but demands to be paid his "loyalty bonus" because he didn't make a written transfer request? Hmm...
Not surprised some fans want us to revert to the populist plan of a former hero/player in charge of the team. All this does is buy a bit of short term goodwill. I don't particularly want us to employ a rookie manager. While I have little confidence in Lambert & thought he was a bad appointment at the time, I don't think the club wants yet another re-set.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 18:08 - Jun 24 with 3381 views

BlueBadger

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 13:05 - Jun 24 by TheTrueBlue1878
I need full written evidence that you were calling for Dyer in 2016. I have to say Burley / Dyer is a much better option and certainly could work, rather than just Dyer. [Post edited 24 Jun 2020 13:05]

'Dear Mr TheTrueBlue1878,

I can honestlyy, totally legit say that Coco was calling for Dyer to be made Town manager in 2016.

Yourse Sincerely,

Coco's Mum.

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Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 18:28 - Jun 24 with 3353 views

TractorWood

Have said Dyer and Burley for 4 years now and been shot down. on 17:20 - Jun 24 by Radlett_blue

I understand Lambert has been a shambles but hiring someone who's not managed at a decent level in ten years can't be the answer.

Hiring on nostalgia is fine but rarely does it go well. The problem here is Evans' structure. No DoF, no CEO, it's impossible a poison chalice.

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