| XR PR 09:12 - Sep 11 with 33142 views | hampstead_blue |
Interesting resignation and thoughts from their PR talking head.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54103163
XR "peddle messages of doomsday gloom that alienate" and offer "little in the way of positive solutions", she added.
co-founder Roger Hallam's claim that science predicts six billion people will die this century due to climate change - a claim that he made to BBC's HARDtalk.
Ms Lights said: "It's a headline-grabbing assertion - but unfortunately, it's also not true,
peer-group tribal pressure to stick to an outdated mainstream green line".
"peddling the notion that the solution to the climate crisis was to turn back the clock to a simpler time".
I think I mentioned last week that XR wanted us to live in caves. That got me a lot of tap. Well, their former head of PR agrees. Tap away.
A few interesting clips from the BBC piece.
I've said before that I am not a fan of them and how they make their point. THis simply reinforces it.
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Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| XR PR on 17:28 - Sep 11 with 3151 views | J2BLUE |
| XR PR on 17:26 - Sep 11 by Herbivore |
Oat milk is the closest to dairy milk imo, it has a bit of natural creaminess to it. |
I've always felt slightly uncomfortable with dairy milk. Oat milk allows me to eat bran flakes without feeling weird. |  |
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| XR PR on 17:29 - Sep 11 with 3147 views | jeera |
| XR PR on 17:23 - Sep 11 by J2BLUE |
Oat milk is vastly superior |
Works well in porridge.
For probably obvious reasons.
I don't mind it on other cereal as it goes.
Doesn't fare so well in tea. |  |
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| XR PR on 17:50 - Sep 11 with 3135 views | Herbivore |
| XR PR on 17:29 - Sep 11 by jeera |
Works well in porridge.
For probably obvious reasons.
I don't mind it on other cereal as it goes.
Doesn't fare so well in tea. |
I prefer it in tea to all the other milk substitutes to be fair. None of them work brilliantly in tea but oat milk I find to be more than passable. |  |
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| XR PR on 18:16 - Sep 11 with 3108 views | Ryorry |
| XR PR on 17:50 - Sep 11 by Herbivore |
I prefer it in tea to all the other milk substitutes to be fair. None of them work brilliantly in tea but oat milk I find to be more than passable. |
Both Provomel and Alpro unsweetened *organic* soya milk work well in tea I find, but not in coffee (which is too acid? or something, so it separates). It's key to pour the s.milk in last.
Provamel's slightly better as it has a slightly higher bean content (9.8% iirc) compared with Alpro's (8.8% iirc). Important to get the organic ones as they don't have any additives, just beans & water - helps re the flavour in tea, even tho I usually prefer nut milks fortified with B.vits & calcium for drinking straight. |  |
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| XR PR on 18:24 - Sep 11 with 3111 views | jeera |
| XR PR on 17:50 - Sep 11 by Herbivore |
I prefer it in tea to all the other milk substitutes to be fair. None of them work brilliantly in tea but oat milk I find to be more than passable. |
Oh it's definitely the best of the bunch, no doubt.
Have people stopped pretending to like soy yet?
That stuff is horrible.
If it came down to it, I would rather go without and eat a box of Weetabix on its own, dry. | |
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| XR PR on 18:30 - Sep 11 with 3101 views | hampstead_blue |
| XR PR on 18:24 - Sep 11 by jeera |
Oh it's definitely the best of the bunch, no doubt.
Have people stopped pretending to like soy yet?
That stuff is horrible.
If it came down to it, I would rather go without and eat a box of Weetabix on its own, dry. |
What is wrong with milk milk? | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| XR PR on 18:32 - Sep 11 with 3098 views | J2BLUE |
| XR PR on 18:30 - Sep 11 by hampstead_blue |
What is wrong with milk milk? |
Nothing. Some people just don't want to consume it for ethical, environmental or preference reasons. | |
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| XR PR on 18:36 - Sep 11 with 3092 views | jeera |
| XR PR on 18:30 - Sep 11 by hampstead_blue |
What is wrong with milk milk? |
I generally use milk milk.
But obviously Herbs and a few others don't so the conversation has leant that way somewhat.
Plus I have tried to humour my pal J2 and so have tried some of his recommendations.
I'm even still speaking to him and everything, regardless. | |
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| XR PR on 18:37 - Sep 11 with 3088 views | monytowbray |
Mate, if outraged people leaving their political leanings is enough to convince you they're wrong I've got some big news about that party you voted in in December... |  |
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| XR PR on 18:40 - Sep 11 with 3085 views | monytowbray |
| XR PR on 18:32 - Sep 11 by J2BLUE |
Nothing. Some people just don't want to consume it for ethical, environmental or preference reasons. |
You spelled "Practically everything" wrong at the start of your post ;) | |
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| XR PR on 18:43 - Sep 11 with 3086 views | J2BLUE |
| XR PR on 18:36 - Sep 11 by jeera |
I generally use milk milk.
But obviously Herbs and a few others don't so the conversation has leant that way somewhat.
Plus I have tried to humour my pal J2 and so have tried some of his recommendations.
I'm even still speaking to him and everything, regardless. |
What have you tried that I have suggested? | |
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| XR PR on 18:53 - Sep 11 with 3078 views | jeera |
| XR PR on 18:43 - Sep 11 by J2BLUE |
What have you tried that I have suggested? |
Oat milk. (Which I don't mind).
And soy, which may not have been you, but I blamed you for putting the idea into my head.
There was another that I hated that I may have made-up, but feel it's real.
This wouldn't stand up in court would it? | |
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| XR PR on 18:59 - Sep 11 with 3063 views | Ryorry |
| XR PR on 18:30 - Sep 11 by hampstead_blue |
What is wrong with milk milk? |
Severely allergic (to cheese too  ) | |
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| XR PR on 19:00 - Sep 11 with 3070 views | J2BLUE |
| XR PR on 18:53 - Sep 11 by jeera |
Oat milk. (Which I don't mind).
And soy, which may not have been you, but I blamed you for putting the idea into my head.
There was another that I hated that I may have made-up, but feel it's real.
This wouldn't stand up in court would it? |
I definitely wouldn't have recommended soy.
#J2isinnocent | |
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| XR PR on 19:13 - Sep 11 with 3061 views | jeera |
| XR PR on 19:00 - Sep 11 by J2BLUE |
I definitely wouldn't have recommended soy.
#J2isinnocent |
Almond - that's it.
One of you suggested almond milk which I tried and liked but then learned I was responsible for murdering babies, or puppies or something.
Anyways, almond milk is bad, so I don't buy it any more.
I do still buy almonds sometimes but I keep that quiet. Occasionally also avocados but generally only when they're on offer. I don't know if they're more environmentally friendly when they're on offer but I pretend they are. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 19:24]
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| XR PR on 19:49 - Sep 11 with 3047 views | eireblue |
| XR PR on 19:13 - Sep 11 by jeera |
Almond - that's it.
One of you suggested almond milk which I tried and liked but then learned I was responsible for murdering babies, or puppies or something.
Anyways, almond milk is bad, so I don't buy it any more.
I do still buy almonds sometimes but I keep that quiet. Occasionally also avocados but generally only when they're on offer. I don't know if they're more environmentally friendly when they're on offer but I pretend they are. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 19:24]
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Yes, I believe on the ethical scale using Californian almonds is roughly the equivalent to puppy killing, European Almond based products, including when used in the cladding around Battenburgs, is fine, that’s just like kicking an adult dog when slightly miffed. |  | | |
| XR PR on 19:51 - Sep 11 with 3044 views | J2BLUE |
| XR PR on 19:13 - Sep 11 by jeera |
Almond - that's it.
One of you suggested almond milk which I tried and liked but then learned I was responsible for murdering babies, or puppies or something.
Anyways, almond milk is bad, so I don't buy it any more.
I do still buy almonds sometimes but I keep that quiet. Occasionally also avocados but generally only when they're on offer. I don't know if they're more environmentally friendly when they're on offer but I pretend they are. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 19:24]
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We did tell you not to go home via the pet shop | |
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| XR PR on 19:51 - Sep 11 with 3043 views | eireblue |
| XR PR on 18:30 - Sep 11 by hampstead_blue |
What is wrong with milk milk? |
If you want to make a difference to global warming, and have a genuine interest in marginal gains, your 1% improvement for today, will be to commit to stopping using diary milk. | | | |
| XR PR on 19:57 - Sep 11 with 3035 views | Swansea_Blue |
| XR PR on 18:30 - Sep 11 by hampstead_blue |
What is wrong with milk milk? |
They’re woke, snowflake commies innit. Real men suck it raw straight from the teat. |  |
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| XR PR on 20:13 - Sep 11 with 3020 views | jeera |
| XR PR on 19:57 - Sep 11 by Swansea_Blue |
They’re woke, snowflake commies innit. Real men suck it raw straight from the teat. |
Whilst gnawing on its calf. | |
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| XR PR on 22:51 - Sep 11 with 2958 views | monytowbray |
| XR PR on 20:13 - Sep 11 by jeera |
Whilst gnawing on its calf. |
Real men voted for Brexit too. Haha | |
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| XR PR on 08:38 - Sep 12 with 2881 views | eastangliaisblue |
| XR PR on 19:51 - Sep 11 by eireblue |
If you want to make a difference to global warming, and have a genuine interest in marginal gains, your 1% improvement for today, will be to commit to stopping using diary milk. |
I always find it quite ironic the same people preaching about not drinking milk and eating red meat, will happily gobble down things like an Avacado. Each Avacado needs around 70 litres of water for full growth, grown in areas where water is already scarce. Not forgetting they then have to be flown over here.
I'm not having a dig by the way, and I always try and do my bit for this beautiful planet we call home. |  | | |
| XR PR on 08:47 - Sep 12 with 2873 views | Herbivore |
| XR PR on 18:30 - Sep 11 by hampstead_blue |
What is wrong with milk milk? |
Dairy cows are treated badly, kept constantly lactating and get very sore teats from intensive milking. Calves, male ones in particular, get sent away for slaughter so drinking milk and eating cheese makes you complicit in the killing of animals. Plus to keep that many cows requires a ton of food and water and creates a lot of methane, so it's not good for the environment by any stretch. Here's a comparison of different kinds of milks by environmental impact: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/science-environment-46654042
So those are the main reasons. Plus when you really think about it, drinking the lactations of another animal is a bit weird. Other animals don't usually drink other animals' secretions that are meant to feed their babies. That's probably a lesser reason mind you, animal welfare, the slaughter of calves, and the environmental impact are the three biggies. | |
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| XR PR on 09:08 - Sep 12 with 2860 views | eireblue |
| XR PR on 08:38 - Sep 12 by eastangliaisblue |
I always find it quite ironic the same people preaching about not drinking milk and eating red meat, will happily gobble down things like an Avacado. Each Avacado needs around 70 litres of water for full growth, grown in areas where water is already scarce. Not forgetting they then have to be flown over here.
I'm not having a dig by the way, and I always try and do my bit for this beautiful planet we call home. |
Will they?
If you don’t have some form of evidence that using non-baby-animal-food milk is correlated with increased avocado use, then you are sort of having a dig.
Are you sure it is not lazy middle class people that couldn’t be arsed to slice avocados properly, but now smashing them on toast is okay, it is that which is fuelling the increase in avocado advocates? | | | |
| XR PR on 09:14 - Sep 12 with 2857 views | Herbivore |
| XR PR on 08:38 - Sep 12 by eastangliaisblue |
I always find it quite ironic the same people preaching about not drinking milk and eating red meat, will happily gobble down things like an Avacado. Each Avacado needs around 70 litres of water for full growth, grown in areas where water is already scarce. Not forgetting they then have to be flown over here.
I'm not having a dig by the way, and I always try and do my bit for this beautiful planet we call home. |
That very much sounds like a dig and an ill-founded one at that. Is it only plant milk drinkers that eat avocado? Does cutting down your dairy consumption make you ravenous for avocado? Show your working or I'm calling this a dig. | |
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