| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement 09:31 - Sep 16 with 73207 views | Barneycurley |
and not be considered a racist? |  |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:28 - Sep 18 with 1878 views | Ryorry |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:36 - Sep 18 by itfcjoe |
Listened to a BBC series the other week called How They Made Us Doubt Everything, and how lessons learned from cigarette companies, were taken on by oil companies, and now we have the anti-science lot pushing things with regards to linking climate change to things like manliness and common sense, politics and religion in the US.
They know what works, and target the white population with lower education qualifications - it's so much putting people in their place, keeping them there and then blaming others for why their life is sh*t which they are then lapping up.
Stockholm Syndrome - the series is really interesting
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000l7q1/episodes/guide
EDIT - And the problem with this podcast, is the only people who will listen to it are those who are not in the latter of Spruce's 2 categories, and they are the ones who need to!
"In the other individualism, conspiracy, feelings, anecdotes, contempt for science and suspicion of others rule the head and the heart." [Post edited 18 Sep 2020 15:40]
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Heard part of that too, was brilliant - certainly worth revisiting to hear the whole thing - thanks. |  |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:41 - Sep 18 with 1859 views | Herbivore |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:27 - Sep 18 by SpruceMoose |
But Herbie, do you ever stop to think that we must be pretty crap at furthering our left wing ideals considering that, in my lifetime at least, we have never had the chance to enjoy living under anything like the left wing government I'd like to see...
So, if a genuinely left wing government hasn't been in power over the last three or four decades, who can we possibly blame for all of our society's ills?! Don't say... Centrists and Right Wingers? Surely not! [Post edited 18 Sep 2020 16:27]
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Now you come to mention it, the left has never been anywhere near power in my lifetime either. My mind is blown. To listen to ROKERSH!TE you'd think that those on the left have been destroying society as we know it for years now, perniciously influencing every aspect of our day to day lives. But actually, the left hasn't ever been in any position to do that in the UK, at least not since the 70s. How do we go about squaring that circle?
Maybe he means the influence of the media, which as we know in the UK is peddling a particularly virulent form of Marxism. It's not like we live in a country where the top selling newspaper is known for giving column inches to the likes of Katie Hopkins and Richard Littlejohn and famously ran a headline declaring 'Hurrah for the black shirts!'. And it's not like the second biggest newspaper is a right wing red top that shamelessly favours populist nonsense over editorial integrity. If we lived in a country like that I'm sure it'd be paradise, but instead we're simply overrun with newsprint that is essentially rehashing The Communist Manifesto on a daily basis. Oh hang on, I think I might have got confused again. We do live in a country where the right controls most of the major media!
So yeah, I'm really struggling with this. Perhaps ROKERSH!TE can elaborate for us exactly how it is the left have ruined everything when they have very little power or influence in the UK. |  |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:42 - Sep 18 with 1855 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:41 - Sep 18 by Herbivore |
Now you come to mention it, the left has never been anywhere near power in my lifetime either. My mind is blown. To listen to ROKERSH!TE you'd think that those on the left have been destroying society as we know it for years now, perniciously influencing every aspect of our day to day lives. But actually, the left hasn't ever been in any position to do that in the UK, at least not since the 70s. How do we go about squaring that circle?
Maybe he means the influence of the media, which as we know in the UK is peddling a particularly virulent form of Marxism. It's not like we live in a country where the top selling newspaper is known for giving column inches to the likes of Katie Hopkins and Richard Littlejohn and famously ran a headline declaring 'Hurrah for the black shirts!'. And it's not like the second biggest newspaper is a right wing red top that shamelessly favours populist nonsense over editorial integrity. If we lived in a country like that I'm sure it'd be paradise, but instead we're simply overrun with newsprint that is essentially rehashing The Communist Manifesto on a daily basis. Oh hang on, I think I might have got confused again. We do live in a country where the right controls most of the major media!
So yeah, I'm really struggling with this. Perhaps ROKERSH!TE can elaborate for us exactly how it is the left have ruined everything when they have very little power or influence in the UK. |
Sounds like typical remoaner nonsense to me. |  |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:44 - Sep 18 with 1848 views | Ryorry |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:15 - Sep 18 by noggin |
Wasn't Sunderland 'brexit central'? Keep them bloody foreigners oot. |
I wondered what he was doing on here spouting his version of reality at us, so went for a quick look at his history - within 2 secs, came across this gem -
The world is fooked on 12:09 - Jun 17 with 1237 views ROKERITE
"I am proud to be a citizen of a small, sovereign nation. I want to remain a citizen of a small, sovereign nation. I'm saddened by how many neo-imperialists there are though Guy Verhofstadt would be delighted. The E.U. is a threat not a promise." | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:48 - Sep 18 with 1837 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:44 - Sep 18 by Ryorry |
I wondered what he was doing on here spouting his version of reality at us, so went for a quick look at his history - within 2 secs, came across this gem -
The world is fooked on 12:09 - Jun 17 with 1237 views ROKERITE
"I am proud to be a citizen of a small, sovereign nation. I want to remain a citizen of a small, sovereign nation. I'm saddened by how many neo-imperialists there are though Guy Verhofstadt would be delighted. The E.U. is a threat not a promise." |
Nowt as strange as folk and Brexiteers. | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:49 - Sep 18 with 1836 views | Herbivore |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:44 - Sep 18 by Ryorry |
I wondered what he was doing on here spouting his version of reality at us, so went for a quick look at his history - within 2 secs, came across this gem -
The world is fooked on 12:09 - Jun 17 with 1237 views ROKERITE
"I am proud to be a citizen of a small, sovereign nation. I want to remain a citizen of a small, sovereign nation. I'm saddened by how many neo-imperialists there are though Guy Verhofstadt would be delighted. The E.U. is a threat not a promise." |
The rule with ROKERSH!TE seems to be that if decent, principled, educated folk are in favour of something then you can be damn sure he's going to violently oppose it. | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:59 - Sep 18 with 1813 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:42 - Sep 18 by SpruceMoose |
Sounds like typical remoaner nonsense to me. |
Traitorous, Marxist*, bumfesting remoaner nonsense
*A Marxist being defined as anyone to the left of Mussolini |  |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:00 - Sep 18 with 1812 views | ROKERITE |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:55 - Sep 18 by SpruceMoose |
'Black' should be capitalised.
I thought a woke individual such as yourself would be aware of that! |
No it shouldn't. Black in the title of the evil organisation yes but black as an adjective should be lower case. |  | | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:09 - Sep 18 with 1792 views | noggin |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:00 - Sep 18 by ROKERITE |
No it shouldn't. Black in the title of the evil organisation yes but black as an adjective should be lower case. |
Is it true you're a Sunderland fan? |  |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:17 - Sep 18 with 1787 views | Ryorry |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 16:59 - Sep 18 by Swansea_Blue |
Traitorous, Marxist*, bumfesting remoaner nonsense
*A Marxist being defined as anyone to the left of Mussolini |
"*A Marxist being defined as anyone to the left of Mussolini"
That's gotta be the thread's second  of the day! | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:28 - Sep 18 with 1775 views | ROKERITE |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:09 - Sep 18 by noggin |
Is it true you're a Sunderland fan? |
Of course; not that I've been for a couple of years. The reason I signed up to this board about fifteen months ago is I backed you heavily ante-post last season but I might have joined before that, I lose track of when I joined what. I've never been to Suffolk in my life and I'll never get there now. I've always imagined it to be a beautiful county. | | | |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:30 - Sep 18 with 1771 views | Herbivore |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:00 - Sep 18 by ROKERITE |
No it shouldn't. Black in the title of the evil organisation yes but black as an adjective should be lower case. |
An anti-racism organisation (more of a movement really) is "evil"? My goodness you're even more of a kunt than I'd given you credit for.
As for the second part, as usual you're in the wrong: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/insider/capitalized-black.amp.html | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:31 - Sep 18 with 1767 views | Herbivore |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:28 - Sep 18 by ROKERITE |
Of course; not that I've been for a couple of years. The reason I signed up to this board about fifteen months ago is I backed you heavily ante-post last season but I might have joined before that, I lose track of when I joined what. I've never been to Suffolk in my life and I'll never get there now. I've always imagined it to be a beautiful county. |
Suffolk is glad you've never sullied its beautiful green lands. | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:32 - Sep 18 with 1766 views | Darth_Koont |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:36 - Sep 18 by SpruceMoose |
I said this yesterday, but broadly people are currently living in two seperate realities, that each feel incredibly real and true.
In one reality concepts such as truth, evidence, research, empathy, compassion and facts still hold sway.
In the other individualism, conspiracy, feelings, anecdotes, contempt for science and suspicion of others rule the head and the heart.
I think it's clear to see that both these realities are not equal.
I have no idea how we reconcile them though. [Post edited 18 Sep 2020 15:49]
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Very well said. Life would be simpler and crucially better if people were more honest and objective about the world around us and where we’re going.
Unfortunately, UK public debate and our media’s business models/billionaire agendas run almost exclusively off the second “reality”. |  |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:36 - Sep 18 with 1753 views | ROKERITE |
You quote The New York Times as if that rag is definitive. I am right, black as an adjective is lower case. The NYT might think it is important but it hasn't yet been deemed the arbiter of English, even American English, grammar. | | | |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:36 - Sep 18 with 1748 views | Herbivore |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:36 - Sep 18 by ROKERITE |
You quote The New York Times as if that rag is definitive. I am right, black as an adjective is lower case. The NYT might think it is important but it hasn't yet been deemed the arbiter of English, even American English, grammar. |
It's not the only source that makes you wrong on this one. There are several others. It seems you've now at least given up the pretence of pretending to care about Black people. [Post edited 18 Sep 2020 17:39]
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:37 - Sep 18 with 1745 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:36 - Sep 18 by ROKERITE |
You quote The New York Times as if that rag is definitive. I am right, black as an adjective is lower case. The NYT might think it is important but it hasn't yet been deemed the arbiter of English, even American English, grammar. |
So angry.
Are you quite short?
NYT a 'rag'? Still angry about the investigation into Trump's taxes eh? How about the AP? Is the AP a 'rag' too?
https://apnews.com/7e36c00c5af0436abc09e051261fff1f [Post edited 18 Sep 2020 17:39]
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:39 - Sep 18 with 1739 views | ROKERITE |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:36 - Sep 18 by Herbivore |
It's not the only source that makes you wrong on this one. There are several others. It seems you've now at least given up the pretence of pretending to care about Black people. [Post edited 18 Sep 2020 17:39]
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And thousands that make me right. Any dictionary worth its salt for a start. | | | |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:40 - Sep 18 with 1733 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:39 - Sep 18 by ROKERITE |
And thousands that make me right. Any dictionary worth its salt for a start. |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:41 - Sep 18 with 1721 views | ROKERITE |
I object to people correcting my grammar when my grammar is correct. I make a point of never correcting other people's grammar however incorrect it might be as I'm a very polite, and average height for my age, person. | | | |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:44 - Sep 18 with 1716 views | Herbivore |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:39 - Sep 18 by ROKERITE |
And thousands that make me right. Any dictionary worth its salt for a start. |
You're some piece of work. As I said, at least you're not pretending you actually care about Black people anymore. The mask has well and truly fallen off. | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:46 - Sep 18 with 1715 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:41 - Sep 18 by ROKERITE |
I object to people correcting my grammar when my grammar is correct. I make a point of never correcting other people's grammar however incorrect it might be as I'm a very polite, and average height for my age, person. |
I guess people who weren't very loved as children often have trouble recognising their shortcomings, and often fail to accept when they're wrong about something.
Obviously this is all the fault of the parents. A failure to set appropriate expectations and boundaries and an inability to provide worthwhile learning experiences are probably at the heart of it all.
But I digress.
It's Black. With a capital B. Although, as you're a racist I understand your impulse to resist reality. | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:52 - Sep 18 with 1702 views | ROKERITE |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:36 - Sep 18 by Herbivore |
It's not the only source that makes you wrong on this one. There are several others. It seems you've now at least given up the pretence of pretending to care about Black people. [Post edited 18 Sep 2020 17:39]
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And there's the typical caring leftist. Forget about racial injustice, what really matters is following a politically correct, grammatically incorrect, way of writing black. I'll stick to writing it the way Larry Elder and other black American conservatives do.
Anyway, it's cocktail time again as my good friend and companion has arrived home. Spend half an hour on Larry Elder's twitter page and discover how so many things you think you know just ain't so. | | | |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:54 - Sep 18 with 1698 views | Herbivore |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 17:52 - Sep 18 by ROKERITE |
And there's the typical caring leftist. Forget about racial injustice, what really matters is following a politically correct, grammatically incorrect, way of writing black. I'll stick to writing it the way Larry Elder and other black American conservatives do.
Anyway, it's cocktail time again as my good friend and companion has arrived home. Spend half an hour on Larry Elder's twitter page and discover how so many things you think you know just ain't so. |
No thanks, whatever sh!te you recommend is likely to be one-eyed, toxic b0llocks. I'll take a hard pass thanks. | |
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