| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino 09:41 - Oct 1 with 3006 views | OsborneOneNil |
The 3 Liverpool lads play every single game. Don’t seem to have missed a game in 2 years. How is that possible when we can’t keep players fit for more than 3 games.
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 09:57 - Oct 1 with 2498 views | patrickswell |
Money for recovery and fitness must play its part. It’s the only reason I can think of, best encapsulated by Andre Gomes suffering a broken/dislocated ankle for Everton and being fit again within 4 months, while this month might possibly/maybe/if the wind’s blowing in the right direction see Tristan Nydam return from a similar injury after 15 months out (and 4 months before Gomes suffered his). |  | | |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 09:59 - Oct 1 with 2486 views | Keno |
those players obviously dont do the running around and stuff |  |
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:01 - Oct 1 with 2481 views | StokieBlue |
Simply not true:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sadio-mane/verletzungen/spieler/200512
Some people are being ridiculous about these injuries. Injuries happen in a physical game, perhaps some players are more susceptible and perhaps some are just bad luck. The second category will tend to even out over the longer term of a players career.
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:25 - Oct 1 with 2429 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:01 - Oct 1 by StokieBlue |
Simply not true:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sadio-mane/verletzungen/spieler/200512
Some people are being ridiculous about these injuries. Injuries happen in a physical game, perhaps some players are more susceptible and perhaps some are just bad luck. The second category will tend to even out over the longer term of a players career.
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He has missed the odd game here and there sure..
What annoys me is someone like Norwood comes back from a few months out, obviously way off the pace "oh he just needs to get match sharpness...." and month later "oh he's still recovering from a long time out, he'll get up to speed".
Harry Kane, out for a similar length of time, straight back into it, looks as sharp as ever.
Is it just a money thing? Do these players get significantly better treatment?
Morris, Norwood, KVY.... all return from injury only to pick up another injury. Is it really just bad luck?! [Post edited 1 Oct 2020 10:27]
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:27 - Oct 1 with 2422 views | Swansea_Blue |
I think we need to test this hypothesis by having Mane, Salah, Firmino all on loan here for a year or two. [Post edited 1 Oct 2020 10:31]
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:29 - Oct 1 with 2402 views | JammyDodgerrr |
It could be something to do with the fact Liverpool will have hundreds of millions more than us to spend on better recovery related items, and protection for them. Just a hunch, though. |  |
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:29 - Oct 1 with 2400 views | marchy |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:01 - Oct 1 by StokieBlue |
Simply not true:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sadio-mane/verletzungen/spieler/200512
Some people are being ridiculous about these injuries. Injuries happen in a physical game, perhaps some players are more susceptible and perhaps some are just bad luck. The second category will tend to even out over the longer term of a players career.
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Burying your head in the sand quite that deeply can lead to long-term back injuries FYI. |  | | |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:35 - Oct 1 with 2372 views | Simonds92 |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:01 - Oct 1 by StokieBlue |
Simply not true:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sadio-mane/verletzungen/spieler/200512
Some people are being ridiculous about these injuries. Injuries happen in a physical game, perhaps some players are more susceptible and perhaps some are just bad luck. The second category will tend to even out over the longer term of a players career.
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I think if anything that strengthens the point.. 29 games missed in 7 years. | | | |
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:36 - Oct 1 with 2366 views | StokieBlue |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:29 - Oct 1 by marchy |
Burying your head in the sand quite that deeply can lead to long-term back injuries FYI. |
I didn't realise presenting evidence to show an initial claim as false was doing that but thanks for the warning.
There may be something wrong with our treatments but you would have thought that 3 successive managers might have spotted it?
Or alternatively we have either bad luck or players who aren't very robust. Not all humans are built the same.
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:36 - Oct 1 with 2365 views | Keno |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:27 - Oct 1 by Swansea_Blue |
I think we need to test this hypothesis by having Mane, Salah, Firmino all on loan here for a year or two. [Post edited 1 Oct 2020 10:31]
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Knowing PRP he play then as Right Back, centre half and goalkeeper | |
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:38 - Oct 1 with 2358 views | StokieBlue |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:35 - Oct 1 by Simonds92 |
I think if anything that strengthens the point.. 29 games missed in 7 years. |
He said no games missed in 2 years but Mane missed 8 last season alone - that's 21% of premier league season so I don't think it strengthens his point at all.
29 games is 76% of a premier league season so you could say he's missed nearly an entire season in those 7 years.
That's not really valid though as the initial post was about the last 2 seasons.
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:43 - Oct 1 with 2324 views | Simonds92 |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:38 - Oct 1 by StokieBlue |
He said no games missed in 2 years but Mane missed 8 last season alone - that's 21% of premier league season so I don't think it strengthens his point at all.
29 games is 76% of a premier league season so you could say he's missed nearly an entire season in those 7 years.
That's not really valid though as the initial post was about the last 2 seasons.
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Are those stats just soley based on the Premier league or do they take in to account Caraboa cup, FA Cup, Champions League, Club World Cup, UEFA Super Cup?
He played 35 premier league games last season and 47 in total. | | | |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:43 - Oct 1 with 2323 views | BlueBadger |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:29 - Oct 1 by JammyDodgerrr |
It could be something to do with the fact Liverpool will have hundreds of millions more than us to spend on better recovery related items, and protection for them. Just a hunch, though. |
This doesn't explain how, for example, David McGoldrick or Adam Webster at similarly sized clubs to us have managed to stay fit. |  |
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:45 - Oct 1 with 2308 views | StokieBlue |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:43 - Oct 1 by Simonds92 |
Are those stats just soley based on the Premier league or do they take in to account Caraboa cup, FA Cup, Champions League, Club World Cup, UEFA Super Cup?
He played 35 premier league games last season and 47 in total. |
I would assume it's all matches as you've pointed out.
Still significantly more than "none" though.
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:49 - Oct 1 with 2292 views | ArnieM |
Poor conditioning , strengthening and training regimes are the problem at this Club. |  |
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 11:16 - Oct 1 with 2245 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:45 - Oct 1 by StokieBlue |
I would assume it's all matches as you've pointed out.
Still significantly more than "none" though.
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 11:21 - Oct 1 with 2236 views | PrideOfTheEast |
Some of our players are clearly not the most professional but then nor is the club. | | | |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 11:29 - Oct 1 with 2221 views | N2_Blue |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:25 - Oct 1 by Wallingford_Boy |
He has missed the odd game here and there sure..
What annoys me is someone like Norwood comes back from a few months out, obviously way off the pace "oh he just needs to get match sharpness...." and month later "oh he's still recovering from a long time out, he'll get up to speed".
Harry Kane, out for a similar length of time, straight back into it, looks as sharp as ever.
Is it just a money thing? Do these players get significantly better treatment?
Morris, Norwood, KVY.... all return from injury only to pick up another injury. Is it really just bad luck?! [Post edited 1 Oct 2020 10:27]
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I think there is a massive difference between Kane and Norwood in terms of their professionalism. Kane clearly works hard where as Norwood seems to get incredibly unfit and overweight when injured. Not surprising players who return from injury overweight get other injuries as there are extra stresses on the body that weren't there before.
Whilst its unfortunate for Norwood I think his lack of professionalism hasn't helped him or us here....and frankly its unacceptable that a pro footballer lets himself get so out of condition. [Post edited 1 Oct 2020 11:31]
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 11:30 - Oct 1 with 2217 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:49 - Oct 1 by ArnieM |
Poor conditioning , strengthening and training regimes are the problem at this Club. |
We're pretty inventive though. I heard we even get them jumping on cars and climbing in through upstairs windows. | |
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 11:38 - Oct 1 with 2192 views | StokieBlue |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 11:16 - Oct 1 by Wallingford_Boy |
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Don't you have some illegal streaming to do?
Probably better than following me around the forum like a lost puppy.
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 11:38 - Oct 1 with 2191 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:38 - Oct 1 by StokieBlue |
He said no games missed in 2 years but Mane missed 8 last season alone - that's 21% of premier league season so I don't think it strengthens his point at all.
29 games is 76% of a premier league season so you could say he's missed nearly an entire season in those 7 years.
That's not really valid though as the initial post was about the last 2 seasons.
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Crikey, chill, brother. It was a general post as to how we have the injuries we do, whilst comparing to the Liverpool front 3 who ‘never seem to miss a game’.
Wasn’t quoting appearances over a 24 month period, just a conversation starter.
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 11:41 - Oct 1 with 2177 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:35 - Oct 1 by Simonds92 |
I think if anything that strengthens the point.. 29 games missed in 7 years. |
Indeed. Wasn’t being a stato (like some), it was something that struck me on Monday when the Liverpool 3 lined up again for what seems like every game.
(I now appreciate it‘s not EVERY game, but you get my point) | | | |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 11:43 - Oct 1 with 2165 views | jayessess |
They've had recurrent injuries for some of their other players though. Lallana and Oxlade-Chamberlain could barely get a run of games. Joe Gomez has had several significant injuries.
Alisson, Matip, Fabinho, Keita, all missed multiple games last year.
Their resources make a big difference in terms of paying for equipment and expertise for both conditioning and recovery. They also enable them to avoid taking risks on players with a history of injury problems. Finally, it's much easier to offload an injured player on a big contract when you're top of the food chain, because your cast offs are star players for mid-table Premier League clubs that are still wealthy enough to buy them. Liverpool could quietly recoup their losses on Danny Ings in a way we can't with Emyr Huws or James Norwood. |  |
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| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 12:25 - Oct 1 with 2108 views | TieDyedIn95 |
| Injuries at Town - Mane, Salah, Firmino on 10:01 - Oct 1 by StokieBlue |
Simply not true:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sadio-mane/verletzungen/spieler/200512
Some people are being ridiculous about these injuries. Injuries happen in a physical game, perhaps some players are more susceptible and perhaps some are just bad luck. The second category will tend to even out over the longer term of a players career.
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We never prior to the Evans era ever had a constantly mounting injury list like we have had since he run the club. The cuts in the backroom are an issue and the quality of the players we have bought have been an issue as well. We've signed players with injuries and a injury history, and we don't have adequate facilities to deal with it, it's that simple. Paul Hurst even worked it out. |  |
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He has missed the odd game here and there sure..
What annoys me is someone like Norwood comes back from a few months out, obviously way off the pace "oh he just needs to get match sharpness...." and month later "oh he's still recovering from a long time out, he'll get up to speed".
Harry Kane, out for a similar length of time, straight back into it, looks as sharp as ever.
Is it just a money thing? Do these players get significantly better treatment?
Morris, Norwood, KVY.... all return from injury only to pick up another injury. Is it really just bad luck?! [Post edited 1 Oct 2020 10:27]
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Have you seriously just compared Nors to Harry Kane??? | | | |
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