| This contact tracing app then on 11:39 - Oct 9 with 457 views | Ftnfwest |
yeah, don't understand mine. I've had it about 10 days and have had 3 'alerts' but when you try to open them to see what they are about they disappear and there's no log of them i can find. |  | |  |
| This contact tracing app then on 11:44 - Oct 9 with 453 views | m14_blue |
| This contact tracing app then on 11:39 - Oct 9 by Ftnfwest |
yeah, don't understand mine. I've had it about 10 days and have had 3 'alerts' but when you try to open them to see what they are about they disappear and there's no log of them i can find. |
I think these are automatic alerts generated by apple/android and not necessarily ones that would meet the criteria for the app to alert you (i.e. you may have walked past someone in the street but not been in close proximity for 15 minutes).
They're separate to the actual alerts generated by the app.
But not ideal obviously. |  | | |
| This contact tracing app then on 11:48 - Oct 9 with 449 views | yesjohn99 |
| This contact tracing app then on 10:10 - Oct 9 by Pinewoodblue |
So pub users are less likely to download the app. |
My phone is out of date. Need IOS blah blah blah. I’ve only got IOS something or other. Check for updates and none available. | | | |
| This contact tracing app then on 12:02 - Oct 9 with 444 views | Ftnfwest |
| This contact tracing app then on 11:44 - Oct 9 by m14_blue |
I think these are automatic alerts generated by apple/android and not necessarily ones that would meet the criteria for the app to alert you (i.e. you may have walked past someone in the street but not been in close proximity for 15 minutes).
They're separate to the actual alerts generated by the app.
But not ideal obviously. |
Agree, without a location its a bit meaningless and if everyone for instance had a test because of it the waiting list would be months i should think. Students are being encouraged to take tests despite 80% of cases at Uni being asymptomatic - when we've been told to only get a test if we're symptomatic.....(mind blowing) | | | |
| This contact tracing app then on 12:25 - Oct 9 with 428 views | eireblue |
| This contact tracing app then on 10:13 - Oct 9 by uefacup81 |
Yes, but my understanding is that for these places to remain open they need to be 'COVID Secure'.
So as long as guidelines are being followed, and place settings are being cleaned after each use, the issue of contact transmission should be null and void? |
You could assume that, but I think there is reasonable rationale to say, if a person that has tested positive for CV-19, has been in an environment, it is safer to alert other people that have been in that environment even after that person left.
Since they may have left a little bit of CV around.
Even assuming a person leaves at 12:00 and you check in at 12:01, that person could have been breathing, and you walk through that air.
Not checking out seems reasonable, since you don’t know what you have left behind. |  | | |
| This contact tracing app then on 12:27 - Oct 9 with 427 views | DebsyAngel |
I am finding this app a pain in the backside- they claim it does not eat up your battery, yes it does. Fully charged phone and then by 6pm it's needing to be charged again. The bluetooth seems to switch itself off too. I just do not understand how it;s meant to work. I want the thing but it really does not seem to be that great at what it's supposed to do. |  | | |
| This contact tracing app then on 12:32 - Oct 9 with 415 views | m14_blue |
| This contact tracing app then on 12:25 - Oct 9 by eireblue |
You could assume that, but I think there is reasonable rationale to say, if a person that has tested positive for CV-19, has been in an environment, it is safer to alert other people that have been in that environment even after that person left.
Since they may have left a little bit of CV around.
Even assuming a person leaves at 12:00 and you check in at 12:01, that person could have been breathing, and you walk through that air.
Not checking out seems reasonable, since you don’t know what you have left behind. |
I suppose the question there is what happens after that person is alerted though?
They won't qualify for a test and we could end up with huge numbers of people self isolating unnecessarily. Which isn't great of itself but will also erode trust and compliance in the cases where we really do need people to self isolate. | | | |
| This contact tracing app then on 13:10 - Oct 9 with 405 views | eireblue |
| This contact tracing app then on 12:32 - Oct 9 by m14_blue |
I suppose the question there is what happens after that person is alerted though?
They won't qualify for a test and we could end up with huge numbers of people self isolating unnecessarily. Which isn't great of itself but will also erode trust and compliance in the cases where we really do need people to self isolate. |
This is why the Government is messing up.
Be opening up too soon, and not having all of this in place, the level of CV infection vs capacity to track and trace vs level of openness are not consistent.
Not being able to register that you have left somewhere, is the not the major issue, with all the other things that the Government have messed up.
Plus, if you were writing the notification code, what would you do with people that forgot to register they had left? It is easier to get people to register on entry, and than can be trusted.
So logically, your algorithm for deciding on who to notify, should not be determined by when and whether someone tells you they have left. | | | |
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| This contact tracing app then on 13:13 - Oct 9 with 403 views | m14_blue |
| This contact tracing app then on 13:10 - Oct 9 by eireblue |
This is why the Government is messing up.
Be opening up too soon, and not having all of this in place, the level of CV infection vs capacity to track and trace vs level of openness are not consistent.
Not being able to register that you have left somewhere, is the not the major issue, with all the other things that the Government have messed up.
Plus, if you were writing the notification code, what would you do with people that forgot to register they had left? It is easier to get people to register on entry, and than can be trusted.
So logically, your algorithm for deciding on who to notify, should not be determined by when and whether someone tells you they have left. |
Totally agree with all of that. | | | |
| This contact tracing app then on 17:36 - Oct 9 with 348 views | Ace_High1 |
The criteria of only having a test if you have symptoms is also why it continues to infect people.
I had an example at work this week.
Member of staff's sibling stayed at the employees house a couple of nights in the week. The sibling had spent a fair bit of time with someone who then tested positive. So member of staff being cautious stays at home for rest of the work (they can work from home, but were due in the office for something).
If we did not have to ration testing (which is why we are being asked to wait until we have symptoms) then in this example employee goes out same day gets a test, result back in 24-48 hours either then fully isolates is positive or gets back to "normal".
I encouraged all of my staff to download the app, but the more I read over the last few weeks it seems flawed.
The pandemic is a huge task for the Government to deal with but the number of basic mistakes with test, track and trace is a joke and results in where we are now heading into a long, dark winter. |  | | |
| This contact tracing app then on 17:38 - Oct 9 with 346 views | Mullet |
| This contact tracing app then on 09:26 - Oct 9 by hype313 |
Outrageous.
How Matt Hancock is still in a job is baffling to say the least. |
They are clearly keeping him and some others on so when the anger really comes to the fore they can sack them and say they've changed etc. |  |
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| This contact tracing app then on 17:48 - Oct 9 with 340 views | solomon |
| This contact tracing app then on 08:22 - Oct 9 by factual_blue |
And oven-ready. |
The Rustlers quarter pounder of the app world |  | | |
| This contact tracing app then on 18:12 - Oct 9 with 329 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| This contact tracing app then on 08:51 - Oct 9 by Oldsmoker |
I suspect that the govt. are running the app on something like the Osborne 2.0 that Phil and Gav use.
There's a shortage of trained hamsters that can drive such a device. |
My guess is that they're using a Commodore 64.
(For any under-40s reading this, A Commodore 64 is to computing what a trebuchet is to modern warfare) |  |
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