| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history 13:20 - Dec 16 with 16926 views | SpruceMoose |
It can't just be me who finds this both shocking and appalling? Britain is a wealthy country. There is money available for so many ridiculous things, but not food for some of our most impoverished children?
I can't even begin to get into the mindset that celebrates the unfathomable amounts that Brexit will cost the UK, but at the same time strokes the chin and gets the calculator out to decide that we can't afford to help our most vulnerable through a pandemic. Wonderful.
Damn the Conservatives, damn anyone who voted for them and damn anyone who still supports them.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-for-the-first-time-in-its-history-unicef-wil [Post edited 16 Dec 2020 13:21]
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:29 - Dec 16 with 1530 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:25 - Dec 16 by You_Bloo_Right |
How is that relevant?
Our shame, and we should be ashamed, is that it is necessary to have such things as food banks and now necessary for UNICEF to intervene in an attempt to tackle child poverty whether that be to replace or enhance the help given by food banks. |
Give it another year or two after Brexit and we'll all be paddling to Libya in Italian dinghies. |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:41 - Dec 16 with 1517 views | GeoffSentence |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 13:50 - Dec 16 by eireblue |
I think I will step in for the PAZ MAN here.
See, no need for the Government to feed Children during Holidays, already covered, everything is fine and dandy with me, thanks for asking. |
UNICEF are marxists and this simply a cheap political stunt. |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:50 - Dec 16 with 1507 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:19 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
No need to speak for me.
How do these things sit with food banks? Are they instead of or as well as? |
How is that relevant? Typical Tory. Why should government pay when charity can pick up the bill. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:51 - Dec 16 with 1457 views | 26_Paz |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:50 - Dec 16 by SpruceMoose |
How is that relevant? Typical Tory. Why should government pay when charity can pick up the bill. |
I’m just trying to understand. Perhaps you could explain? |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:57 - Dec 16 with 1494 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:29 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
I’m just trying to get straight in my own head where all this fits in. Those in need in this country have the benefits system, free school meals and as a last resort they have food banks. I’m just trying to be clear in my own head where in that existing system this unicef package fits in. |
Point of order.
People have access to an inadequate benefits system that your party makes them jump through hoops like performing seals to access and which can seemingly be taken away from them at the drop of a hat.
They also have access to free school meals, but you wanted to strip them of those during school holidays (because as everyone knows children only need to eat when they're in school).
And yes, if all that wonderful stuff fails they can enjoy the utter humiliation and denigration of queuing up for free food that the people who actually care about them have scraped together - just to be told by rich Torys that food banks only exist because people love receiving free stuff.
Do your lot have any positive vision for the country, or is your worldview entirely miserly, backwards, mean spirited, bitter and based on punching down on the most unfortunate? [Post edited 16 Dec 2020 16:03]
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:00 - Dec 16 with 1491 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:51 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
I’m just trying to understand. Perhaps you could explain? |
What is there to understand? Obviously whatever your lot are deeming sufficient for struggling people to live on is grossly inadequate. Let's not pretend that you aren't always looking for opportunities to make it even more miserly either.
Why do you think these British kids need UNICEF to provide them with food? What's your explanation for that? [Post edited 16 Dec 2020 16:04]
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:01 - Dec 16 with 1489 views | footers |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:50 - Dec 16 by SpruceMoose |
How is that relevant? Typical Tory. Why should government pay when charity can pick up the bill. |
It's the Tories' commitment to laissez-faire economics and the idea of religious providence which has led us here in the first place. And strangely enough, it was also their commitment to these ideas which helped kill millions of Irish who were under their supposed care. Funny old world! |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:02 - Dec 16 with 1484 views | jeera |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:57 - Dec 16 by SpruceMoose |
Point of order.
People have access to an inadequate benefits system that your party makes them jump through hoops like performing seals to access and which can seemingly be taken away from them at the drop of a hat.
They also have access to free school meals, but you wanted to strip them of those during school holidays (because as everyone knows children only need to eat when they're in school).
And yes, if all that wonderful stuff fails they can enjoy the utter humiliation and denigration of queuing up for free food that the people who actually care about them have scraped together - just to be told by rich Torys that food banks only exist because people love receiving free stuff.
Do your lot have any positive vision for the country, or is your worldview entirely miserly, backwards, mean spirited, bitter and based on punching down on the most unfortunate? [Post edited 16 Dec 2020 16:03]
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There really is this notion that when people are in trouble, that the State automatically steps in and picks up the tab.
It's just not like that, and certainly in terms of housing, it is usually quite the opposite.
As it has been said many times, some departments are not there to help, but are engineered in a way to drive people away by any means possible.
But if one's mindset is to not want to believe that, it will not matter how many times it is repeated. And it is proven by their lack of interest to actually perform the slightest bit of research. |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:03 - Dec 16 with 1476 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:29 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
I’m just trying to get straight in my own head where all this fits in. Those in need in this country have the benefits system, free school meals and as a last resort they have food banks. I’m just trying to be clear in my own head where in that existing system this unicef package fits in. |
I'm still not sure what your point is but as far as I am aware the UNICEF "emergency intervention" (their own description of the financial award to the School Food Matters charity) will be to help feed impoverished children over the coming school holidays and will be in addition to any other measures in place.
The real value of benefits have fallen over a number of years and that coupled with the factored in minimum 5 week wait for payment under the Universal Credit system has seen a rise in the use of food banks - see this Trussell Trust report from last year -
https://www.trusselltrust.org/what-we-do/research-advocacy/universal-credit-and-
But why should anyone have to rely on food banks? Why do such things even exist? They are a charitable response to government's lack of care IMO - if I could wipe out the necessity for food banks tomorrow I would do it.
As for food banks being a last resort, the Child Poverty Action Group states that there are 4.2 million children in this country, OUR country, living in poverty and that 72% of those children live in working families (one or both parents have jobs). I would suggest for many of those families food banks are not a last resort but an absolute essential.
And of course, free school meals are only available when schools are open as our Prime Minister was at pains to point out until he was shamed into reversing that position by a young professional sportsman.
Whether deliberately or not you make it sound like those less fortunate in this country have sufficient help already without any intervention from UNICEF whereas what I see is a growing underclass deprived of a basic human right - the right to food. [Post edited 16 Dec 2020 16:05]
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:07 - Dec 16 with 1465 views | jeera |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:01 - Dec 16 by footers |
It's the Tories' commitment to laissez-faire economics and the idea of religious providence which has led us here in the first place. And strangely enough, it was also their commitment to these ideas which helped kill millions of Irish who were under their supposed care. Funny old world! |
And of course the lovely Patel was on hand to use the threat of food shortages to Ireland as leverage only a couple of years ago.
Nothing like a healthy reminder is there. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:09 - Dec 16 with 1455 views | footers |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:07 - Dec 16 by jeera |
And of course the lovely Patel was on hand to use the threat of food shortages to Ireland as leverage only a couple of years ago.
Nothing like a healthy reminder is there. |
I'd forgot about that! But yeah, she's either completely historically illiterate or just vile. Or maybe both. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:12 - Dec 16 with 1448 views | jeera |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:09 - Dec 16 by footers |
I'd forgot about that! But yeah, she's either completely historically illiterate or just vile. Or maybe both. |
Wasn't it along the lines of [to paraphrase] "They need to be reminded of their place when it comes to negotiating a backstop"?
I'm sure someone will correct me at some point, but that was generally how it was received at the time. [Post edited 16 Dec 2020 16:16]
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:15 - Dec 16 with 1448 views | BlueBadger |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:51 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
I’m just trying to understand. Perhaps you could explain? |
Which part of 'feeding starving children is not a bad thing' are you having trouble with? |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:17 - Dec 16 with 1437 views | eireblue |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:29 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
I’m just trying to get straight in my own head where all this fits in. Those in need in this country have the benefits system, free school meals and as a last resort they have food banks. I’m just trying to be clear in my own head where in that existing system this unicef package fits in. |
The 6th richest nation in the world can’t afford to feed its children.
That is the main thing to take.
The second thing I am going to take from this is, it is difficult to disregard human empathy sufficiently to plumb the depths of a Tory thinker like the PAZ MAN, in order to adequately caraciture them. |  | | |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:19 - Dec 16 with 1432 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:15 - Dec 16 by BlueBadger |
Which part of 'feeding starving children is not a bad thing' are you having trouble with? |
I expect he has Very Real Concerns that feeding them will mean less money to blow on pointless xenophobic political gaffes. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:21 - Dec 16 with 1426 views | factual_blue |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 15:41 - Dec 16 by GeoffSentence |
UNICEF are marxists and this simply a cheap political stunt. |
Their massive red flag gives it away. |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:22 - Dec 16 with 1423 views | footers |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:21 - Dec 16 by factual_blue |
Their massive red flag gives it away. |
Hang on, if UNICEF is part of the UN, then isn't this the next step in the NWO plan? Maybe they'll send food with mind control drugs or microchips in it. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:25 - Dec 16 with 1408 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:17 - Dec 16 by eireblue |
The 6th richest nation in the world can’t afford to feed its children.
That is the main thing to take.
The second thing I am going to take from this is, it is difficult to disregard human empathy sufficiently to plumb the depths of a Tory thinker like the PAZ MAN, in order to adequately caraciture them. |
Paz was so keen to understand the situation and extend a little empathy that he promptly logged off and didn't bother. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:28 - Dec 16 with 1391 views | 26_Paz |
I’m not going to respond to each post individually. I guess my general observation here is that I’m sure there are children in developing countries with less access to food than those who are receiving these parcels. Children in countries without a benefit system, without free school meals, without food banks. My concern would be that these parcels would do more good in these countries that don’t have this other provision. Just an observation. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:29 - Dec 16 with 1400 views | StokieBlue |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:28 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
I’m not going to respond to each post individually. I guess my general observation here is that I’m sure there are children in developing countries with less access to food than those who are receiving these parcels. Children in countries without a benefit system, without free school meals, without food banks. My concern would be that these parcels would do more good in these countries that don’t have this other provision. Just an observation. |
A hungry child is a hungry child in any location.
How can one child being less hungry than another matter by location?
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:32 - Dec 16 with 1376 views | 26_Paz |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:29 - Dec 16 by StokieBlue |
A hungry child is a hungry child in any location.
How can one child being less hungry than another matter by location?
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Because in some locations said child already has access to food support. In the other location said child has no food support and as a consequence less food. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:32 - Dec 16 with 1392 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:28 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
I’m not going to respond to each post individually. I guess my general observation here is that I’m sure there are children in developing countries with less access to food than those who are receiving these parcels. Children in countries without a benefit system, without free school meals, without food banks. My concern would be that these parcels would do more good in these countries that don’t have this other provision. Just an observation. |
So basically British kids should shut up and accept what they're already given because other people in the world have it worse?
You inserted yourself into this discussion so I think it fair that you answer at least one question.
Why do you think UNICEF need to be involved with feeding British kids at all? | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:33 - Dec 16 with 1389 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:32 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
Because in some locations said child already has access to food support. In the other location said child has no food support and as a consequence less food. |
So UNICEF are just giving food away in the UK for the hell of it and the kids don't really need it? | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:35 - Dec 16 with 1384 views | StokieBlue |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:32 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
Because in some locations said child already has access to food support. In the other location said child has no food support and as a consequence less food. |
That will have been taken into account though. I am sure the overall diet of the child would be used to determine who is in need.
Clearly UNICEF feel that the food provisions are not adequate. I am sure they do more in other locations where required but the point is that it should never be required in this country. There are 189 countries in the world that are poorer than the UK. It's embarrassing that an international charity feels it needs to step in to feed some of our children.
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:35 - Dec 16 with 1380 views | BlueBadger |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:28 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
I’m not going to respond to each post individually. I guess my general observation here is that I’m sure there are children in developing countries with less access to food than those who are receiving these parcels. Children in countries without a benefit system, without free school meals, without food banks. My concern would be that these parcels would do more good in these countries that don’t have this other provision. Just an observation. |
The 7th largest economy in the world shouldn't be taking decisions wilfully that mean that children resident in it go hungry and need bailing out by charities at local, national and international level.
Just an observation. | |
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