| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history 13:20 - Dec 16 with 16915 views | SpruceMoose |
It can't just be me who finds this both shocking and appalling? Britain is a wealthy country. There is money available for so many ridiculous things, but not food for some of our most impoverished children?
I can't even begin to get into the mindset that celebrates the unfathomable amounts that Brexit will cost the UK, but at the same time strokes the chin and gets the calculator out to decide that we can't afford to help our most vulnerable through a pandemic. Wonderful.
Damn the Conservatives, damn anyone who voted for them and damn anyone who still supports them.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-for-the-first-time-in-its-history-unicef-wil [Post edited 16 Dec 2020 13:21]
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:24 - Dec 16 with 1490 views | footers |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:20 - Dec 16 by sotd78 |
'The grant for School Food Matters will address the gap in current provision for children, providing approximately 1,800 children with breakfast bags during the Christmas holidays and February half term.'
This is a £25,000 grant to a Southwark based charity operation. It is not unusual for charities, churches, donors or local governments etc to fund gaps in local activity. That UNICEF have seen this gap and presumably no-one has filled it in a timely manner does NOT mean the country does not or cannot feed its children. There's a load of politics going on here that really should make us all slow down and assess the realities of what is actually going on. It is a scheme to provide "breakfasts" to kids who are deprived. Ask why they are deprived? Then fix that perhaps? |
"There's a load of politics going on here that really should make us all slow down and assess the realities of what is actually going on. It is a scheme to provide "breakfasts" to kids who are deprived. Ask why they are deprived? Then fix that perhaps?"
Could you please elaborate on this? |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:24 - Dec 16 with 1487 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:20 - Dec 16 by sotd78 |
'The grant for School Food Matters will address the gap in current provision for children, providing approximately 1,800 children with breakfast bags during the Christmas holidays and February half term.'
This is a £25,000 grant to a Southwark based charity operation. It is not unusual for charities, churches, donors or local governments etc to fund gaps in local activity. That UNICEF have seen this gap and presumably no-one has filled it in a timely manner does NOT mean the country does not or cannot feed its children. There's a load of politics going on here that really should make us all slow down and assess the realities of what is actually going on. It is a scheme to provide "breakfasts" to kids who are deprived. Ask why they are deprived? Then fix that perhaps? |
If the country can and does feed its hungry children then why does charity assistance relying on donations or local government/UNICEF contributions exist?
Hungry children are not political. This should be a huge embarrassment for the British government. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:28 - Dec 16 with 1469 views | jeera |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:24 - Dec 16 by SpruceMoose |
If the country can and does feed its hungry children then why does charity assistance relying on donations or local government/UNICEF contributions exist?
Hungry children are not political. This should be a huge embarrassment for the British government. |
Plus, without wishing to be rude to matey there, isn't this the point?
"Ask why they are deprived? Then fix that perhaps?"
People have been asking for years and not enough has been done clearly. |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:28 - Dec 16 with 1469 views | BlueBadger |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:24 - Dec 16 by footers |
"There's a load of politics going on here that really should make us all slow down and assess the realities of what is actually going on. It is a scheme to provide "breakfasts" to kids who are deprived. Ask why they are deprived? Then fix that perhaps?"
Could you please elaborate on this? |
'They should pay for the fact that their parents bought 20 JPS once'. |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:30 - Dec 16 with 1460 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:28 - Dec 16 by jeera |
Plus, without wishing to be rude to matey there, isn't this the point?
"Ask why they are deprived? Then fix that perhaps?"
People have been asking for years and not enough has been done clearly. |
Well, exactly! There is no reason why these children can't be helped out of their deprived situations by their own government without needing charity assistance. The problem here isn't a lack of money, it is a lack of desire to help them. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:30 - Dec 16 with 1462 views | jeera |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:28 - Dec 16 by BlueBadger |
'They should pay for the fact that their parents bought 20 JPS once'. |
I had the JPS black F1 Scalextric car as a kid.
Just throwing that out there. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:56 - Dec 16 with 1444 views | eireblue |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:20 - Dec 16 by sotd78 |
'The grant for School Food Matters will address the gap in current provision for children, providing approximately 1,800 children with breakfast bags during the Christmas holidays and February half term.'
This is a £25,000 grant to a Southwark based charity operation. It is not unusual for charities, churches, donors or local governments etc to fund gaps in local activity. That UNICEF have seen this gap and presumably no-one has filled it in a timely manner does NOT mean the country does not or cannot feed its children. There's a load of politics going on here that really should make us all slow down and assess the realities of what is actually going on. It is a scheme to provide "breakfasts" to kids who are deprived. Ask why they are deprived? Then fix that perhaps? |
You will have to explain the difference between “breakfasts” and breakfasts. |  | | |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:57 - Dec 16 with 1412 views | 26_Paz |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:39 - Dec 16 by SpruceMoose |
That didn't answer my question.
Why do you think UNICEF feels the need to assist British children? |
With 5 a side done (lost but bagged a couple) I can answer the questions. I’m assuming this is the question you want me to answer?
I do not believe there are many (if any) children in the UK that are more hungry than those in third world countries. I believe unicef have got their priorities wrong and their resources would be better used elsewhere. Does that answer your question, sir? |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:59 - Dec 16 with 1437 views | Pendejo |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:30 - Dec 16 by jeera |
I had the JPS black F1 Scalextric car as a kid.
Just throwing that out there. |
I sat in the actual JPS when it was on display somewhere in 70s, but can't remember where. |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 19:05 - Dec 16 with 1406 views | 26_Paz |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:03 - Dec 16 by You_Bloo_Right |
I'm still not sure what your point is but as far as I am aware the UNICEF "emergency intervention" (their own description of the financial award to the School Food Matters charity) will be to help feed impoverished children over the coming school holidays and will be in addition to any other measures in place.
The real value of benefits have fallen over a number of years and that coupled with the factored in minimum 5 week wait for payment under the Universal Credit system has seen a rise in the use of food banks - see this Trussell Trust report from last year -
https://www.trusselltrust.org/what-we-do/research-advocacy/universal-credit-and-
But why should anyone have to rely on food banks? Why do such things even exist? They are a charitable response to government's lack of care IMO - if I could wipe out the necessity for food banks tomorrow I would do it.
As for food banks being a last resort, the Child Poverty Action Group states that there are 4.2 million children in this country, OUR country, living in poverty and that 72% of those children live in working families (one or both parents have jobs). I would suggest for many of those families food banks are not a last resort but an absolute essential.
And of course, free school meals are only available when schools are open as our Prime Minister was at pains to point out until he was shamed into reversing that position by a young professional sportsman.
Whether deliberately or not you make it sound like those less fortunate in this country have sufficient help already without any intervention from UNICEF whereas what I see is a growing underclass deprived of a basic human right - the right to food. [Post edited 16 Dec 2020 16:05]
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The question here I think is ‘why should anyone have to rely on food banks’. My answer is they shouldn’t, levels of welfare support should provide enough to feed a family a healthy diet. | |
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| ITFC is a perfect facsimile of Great Britain..... on 19:39 - Dec 16 with 1395 views | MalcolmBlue |
| ITFC is a perfect facsimile of Great Britain..... on 13:43 - Dec 16 by factual_blue |
Is dido harding paul lambert? |
You should put it out for a poll, a while ago we discovered that Theresa May was the Paul Hurst of politics. I think a follow-up on this is long overdue. |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 19:42 - Dec 16 with 1389 views | eireblue |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 19:05 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
The question here I think is ‘why should anyone have to rely on food banks’. My answer is they shouldn’t, levels of welfare support should provide enough to feed a family a healthy diet. |
You have spelled does and doesn’t wrongly, and forgot to add, “as provided by a Tory government that has been in power for over ten years” | | | |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 19:45 - Dec 16 with 1385 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 19:05 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
The question here I think is ‘why should anyone have to rely on food banks’. My answer is they shouldn’t, levels of welfare support should provide enough to feed a family a healthy diet. |
OK.
I now need to ask a further question for clarification largely because of the richness of the English language.
When you say, "levels of welfare support should provide enough to feed a family a healthy diet." am I to read "should" there as "are adequate enough to" or as "need to be raised so that they"? |  |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:01 - Dec 16 with 1331 views | 26_Paz |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 19:45 - Dec 16 by You_Bloo_Right |
OK.
I now need to ask a further question for clarification largely because of the richness of the English language.
When you say, "levels of welfare support should provide enough to feed a family a healthy diet." am I to read "should" there as "are adequate enough to" or as "need to be raised so that they"? |
I’m not exactly sure what levels of welfare are in this country but I’m aware it’s one of the most generous systems in the world so if a family is going hungry then something has gone wrong with the system somewhere. I don’t believe a blanket raise is necessary. I think sorting out things like the 5 week wait mentioned by another poster earlier in this thread is necessary. In short I think the level is welfare as intended is adequate but I feel the system is far too complicated and some fall through the cracks, this is what needs addressing. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:13 - Dec 16 with 1345 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 18:57 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
With 5 a side done (lost but bagged a couple) I can answer the questions. I’m assuming this is the question you want me to answer?
I do not believe there are many (if any) children in the UK that are more hungry than those in third world countries. I believe unicef have got their priorities wrong and their resources would be better used elsewhere. Does that answer your question, sir? |
So your position is that there aren't any kids going hungry in the UK and UNICEF and Marcus Rashford are either lying about it or are mistaken in thinking so? [Post edited 16 Dec 2020 20:19]
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:14 - Dec 16 with 1342 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:01 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
I’m not exactly sure what levels of welfare are in this country but I’m aware it’s one of the most generous systems in the world so if a family is going hungry then something has gone wrong with the system somewhere. I don’t believe a blanket raise is necessary. I think sorting out things like the 5 week wait mentioned by another poster earlier in this thread is necessary. In short I think the level is welfare as intended is adequate but I feel the system is far too complicated and some fall through the cracks, this is what needs addressing. |
You have a lot of strong opinions on this for someone who confesses to not know much about it. [Post edited 16 Dec 2020 20:18]
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:18 - Dec 16 with 1333 views | BlueNomad |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 16:28 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
I’m not going to respond to each post individually. I guess my general observation here is that I’m sure there are children in developing countries with less access to food than those who are receiving these parcels. Children in countries without a benefit system, without free school meals, without food banks. My concern would be that these parcels would do more good in these countries that don’t have this other provision. Just an observation. |
I thought the mantra of the right in this country is that we should close our borders and “look after our own.” The right have failed and still look down on, not after, our own. |  | | |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:20 - Dec 16 with 1326 views | jeera |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:01 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
I’m not exactly sure what levels of welfare are in this country but I’m aware it’s one of the most generous systems in the world so if a family is going hungry then something has gone wrong with the system somewhere. I don’t believe a blanket raise is necessary. I think sorting out things like the 5 week wait mentioned by another poster earlier in this thread is necessary. In short I think the level is welfare as intended is adequate but I feel the system is far too complicated and some fall through the cracks, this is what needs addressing. |
"I’m not exactly sure what levels of welfare are in this country."
So you don't know what you are talking about.
" I don’t believe a blanket raise is necessary."
A blanket raise? What on earth is a blanket raise [in context] and who suggested such a thing?
"In short I think the level is welfare as intended is adequate."
You are literally making things up.
Edited: admin has enough to contend with. [Post edited 17 Dec 2020 4:59]
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:20 - Dec 16 with 1327 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:18 - Dec 16 by BlueNomad |
I thought the mantra of the right in this country is that we should close our borders and “look after our own.” The right have failed and still look down on, not after, our own. |
'Our Own' never really included the poor, the Black and Brown, the Asian etc. did it? What Paz doesn't stop to think about is that it doesn't include his supposedly Romanian missus either. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:20 - Dec 16 with 1323 views | eireblue |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:18 - Dec 16 by BlueNomad |
I thought the mantra of the right in this country is that we should close our borders and “look after our own.” The right have failed and still look down on, not after, our own. |
I think they often misspell myself. | | | |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:24 - Dec 16 with 1298 views | 26_Paz |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:20 - Dec 16 by jeera |
"I’m not exactly sure what levels of welfare are in this country."
So you don't know what you are talking about.
" I don’t believe a blanket raise is necessary."
A blanket raise? What on earth is a blanket raise [in context] and who suggested such a thing?
"In short I think the level is welfare as intended is adequate."
You are literally making things up.
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Thanks for your input. You have a nice evening. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:25 - Dec 16 with 1310 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:20 - Dec 16 by jeera |
"I’m not exactly sure what levels of welfare are in this country."
So you don't know what you are talking about.
" I don’t believe a blanket raise is necessary."
A blanket raise? What on earth is a blanket raise [in context] and who suggested such a thing?
"In short I think the level is welfare as intended is adequate."
You are literally making things up.
Edited: admin has enough to contend with. [Post edited 17 Dec 2020 4:59]
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Excellent post, although now he will just bring out the fake outrage act and avoid answering any of the questions put to him (not that he would have answered them anyway I suppose!) | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:25 - Dec 16 with 1308 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:24 - Dec 16 by 26_Paz |
Thanks for your input. You have a nice evening. |
Called it 
Pitifully predictable. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:27 - Dec 16 with 1304 views | jeera |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:25 - Dec 16 by SpruceMoose |
Excellent post, although now he will just bring out the fake outrage act and avoid answering any of the questions put to him (not that he would have answered them anyway I suppose!) |
" In short I think the level is welfare as intended is adequate."
"I’m not exactly sure what levels of welfare are in this country."
How can any grown adult use these two sentences together?
What a douche. | |
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| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:28 - Dec 16 with 1299 views | SpruceMoose |
| UNICEF help to feed British children for the first time in their history on 20:27 - Dec 16 by jeera |
" In short I think the level is welfare as intended is adequate."
"I’m not exactly sure what levels of welfare are in this country."
How can any grown adult use these two sentences together?
What a douche. |
He knows full well what he is doing.
He's trying to avoid actually saying that he just doesn't care, while making it pretty damn obvious that he just doesn't care.
I don't know why he even gets involved in these discussions rather than just enjoying the awful stuff his vote is causing from afar.
A description of Paz can be distilled down to "A massive wrong 'un but is quite shy about it". [Post edited 16 Dec 2020 20:33]
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