| Nearly 60,000 covid cases 16:35 - Dec 31 with 7509 views | chrismakin |
Yet supermarkets still allow hundreds of shoppers in without a care in the world
Little ones going to crowd together in schools next week despite boris advising covid loves a crowd
I can't believe with the oxford vaccine now available to they haven't done a full uk hard lockdown and push the vaccine as quick as possible. I get businesses down want to stay closed.. but the longer this pathetic tier system goes on the worse it is.
Just lockdown the island. Nothing in nothing out
All businesses closed army delivers food only care homes and NHS businesses open.
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:13 - Dec 31 with 1771 views | chrismakin |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:03 - Dec 31 by DebsyAngel |
Agree with your points.
We have only been shopping 3 times between us a week - my husband does the main shop alone at the local Aldi/Coop/Home Bargains and again midweek for stuff like milk/salad/fruit.
I go once a week into town to get stuff that is not sold/run out in Boots and Sainsburys.
I noticed in the November lockdown that the few shops I do go in still had door staff but were letting far too many people in. Don't ever see any cleaning going on in any place now, and distancing seems to be a thing of the past. I try my best to distance and take my own hand wipes to clean basket handles/rails I need to use. Also gel my hands at every opportunity. The markings on paths are all faded/peeled off and no attempt at anyone to stay on the correct sides of the street - the most basic of rules. We also clean everything we buy/bags etc each time, and also wipe down any post.
I am terrified of spending another year like this. It has nearly finished me off mentally and emotionally and I am struggling to carry on to be honest. |
Your last sentence is why I think we should have 1 full and last lockdown
get the vaccine out, and after the lockdown, everything is back open and we have no choice but to live with it,
just because things would open again, it doesn't mean you just ignore the safety advice, pubs etc should continue to do the group of 6, sit down service only etc. but least we can have normality back again
otherwise, it could be yet another painful year | |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:21 - Dec 31 with 1756 views | DebsyAngel |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:11 - Dec 31 by bluelagos |
Plenty of delivery/c&c slots are available if it causes you significant anxiety/stress entering shops.
Even the co-op have started now, with a 3 hour wait from order for those of us in the sticks. |
I appreciate what you have put but would rather the delivery slots went to the really needy and elderly.
I have to go out, otherwise it would cause me longer term damage and I would have agoraphobia, as much as I hate it. |  | | |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:23 - Dec 31 with 1754 views | DublinBlue84 |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:13 - Dec 31 by chrismakin |
Your last sentence is why I think we should have 1 full and last lockdown
get the vaccine out, and after the lockdown, everything is back open and we have no choice but to live with it,
just because things would open again, it doesn't mean you just ignore the safety advice, pubs etc should continue to do the group of 6, sit down service only etc. but least we can have normality back again
otherwise, it could be yet another painful year |
If we had a competent Government I'd agree with you, sadly we don't.
The November lockdown was far too short and they released it far too early which is contributing to the numbers now. There should have been no release early on 2nd December and it should have ran all the way through t Christmas.
I have no confidence that this Government will not make the same mistake again. The first lockdown was far more effective because it was more rigorous, with less exceptions and and wasn't eased quickly. It delayed the next wave by months. We need similar again. |  |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:27 - Dec 31 with 1743 views | chrismakin |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:23 - Dec 31 by DublinBlue84 |
If we had a competent Government I'd agree with you, sadly we don't.
The November lockdown was far too short and they released it far too early which is contributing to the numbers now. There should have been no release early on 2nd December and it should have ran all the way through t Christmas.
I have no confidence that this Government will not make the same mistake again. The first lockdown was far more effective because it was more rigorous, with less exceptions and and wasn't eased quickly. It delayed the next wave by months. We need similar again. |
Novembers lockdown was shambolic tbh,
then by leaving it so late to say on tier 4 cant have xmas together, I know sadly loads of poeple that had already bought all their foods etc and basically stuck 2 fingers up at boris and had their xmas's as planned
Then and this is the bit i love, they then gave other counties 3 extra days notice before turning to tier 4 on boxing day, basically giving everyone permission in those tiers to go an mix despite the need to move them to tier 4
I dread to think the case/death numbers in the next 4 weeks following this xmas period
I find it even more baffling that fireworks have been allowed to be sold, i've already seen posts galore of different associates planning garden parties etc | |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:42 - Dec 31 with 1727 views | Guthrum |
Supermarkets don't seem to be as much a locus for transmission as many seem to think. It appears that schools and workplaces are considerably worse. Altho the most common venue for infection is within families/households. |  |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:43 - Dec 31 with 1718 views | vapour_trail |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 17:40 - Dec 31 by chrismakin |
well scrap that motion lol
ok, 1 collection point per town, voucher per household, once you've got it, that's it for the month
job done.
basically anything that actually represents a country trying its actual best to sort this pandemic out |
Sounds like some form of supermarket. |  |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:47 - Dec 31 with 1718 views | TractorWood |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 17:26 - Dec 31 by factual_blue |
The total number of armed forces personnel in the UK is around 195,000. The number of households in the UK is around 28 million.
I'll let you do the maths. Even if all 195,000 were available to deliver food (which, obviously they aren't),each one of those 195,000 would have to make four deliveries an hour for forty hours a week.
A logistical impossibility. |
Good maths. Always like it when people show their workings. [Post edited 31 Dec 2020 19:26]
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:56 - Dec 31 with 1702 views | Fixed_It |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:42 - Dec 31 by Guthrum |
Supermarkets don't seem to be as much a locus for transmission as many seem to think. It appears that schools and workplaces are considerably worse. Altho the most common venue for infection is within families/households. |
Schools?! Who could possibly have foreseen that?!?! |  |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:03 - Dec 31 with 1696 views | jontysnut |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:05 - Dec 31 by bluelagos |
"IF supermarkets were the only thing open, and were policed properly, that would have a massive effect "
That's a hell of a lot more reasonable than what you were advocating earlier! |
I complained to Tesco that there were too many people in my local small store without masks. They said their policy was not to challenge. While I get that it would be difficult for staff, but if I walked out without paying I would expect to be challenged. They're not even anti-maskers, just can't be @rsed. |  | | |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:06 - Dec 31 with 1691 views | chrismakin |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:03 - Dec 31 by jontysnut |
I complained to Tesco that there were too many people in my local small store without masks. They said their policy was not to challenge. While I get that it would be difficult for staff, but if I walked out without paying I would expect to be challenged. They're not even anti-maskers, just can't be @rsed. |
I dont understand that
" Not to challenge"
youre not challenging, you have someone on the door, signs up, no masks no entry, if they kickoff and get aggressive you call the police, no different if they got aggressive because you've asked for ID for fags etc. | |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:12 - Dec 31 with 1688 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:03 - Dec 31 by jontysnut |
I complained to Tesco that there were too many people in my local small store without masks. They said their policy was not to challenge. While I get that it would be difficult for staff, but if I walked out without paying I would expect to be challenged. They're not even anti-maskers, just can't be @rsed. |
Exactly this, which is why today i told 2 blokes with masks under their chin to " put your masks on or get out of my f@cking space".
The first bloke did put his mask on, the second one got close again and got my trolley in his knees. Hope it hurt, tosser. |  |
| We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub. |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:15 - Dec 31 with 1680 views | jontysnut |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:06 - Dec 31 by chrismakin |
I dont understand that
" Not to challenge"
youre not challenging, you have someone on the door, signs up, no masks no entry, if they kickoff and get aggressive you call the police, no different if they got aggressive because you've asked for ID for fags etc. |
Yes, I said that they should have security checking masks or exemptions but I suspect they thought it was all too much hassle. | | | |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:37 - Dec 31 with 1658 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 18:03 - Dec 31 by DebsyAngel |
Agree with your points.
We have only been shopping 3 times between us a week - my husband does the main shop alone at the local Aldi/Coop/Home Bargains and again midweek for stuff like milk/salad/fruit.
I go once a week into town to get stuff that is not sold/run out in Boots and Sainsburys.
I noticed in the November lockdown that the few shops I do go in still had door staff but were letting far too many people in. Don't ever see any cleaning going on in any place now, and distancing seems to be a thing of the past. I try my best to distance and take my own hand wipes to clean basket handles/rails I need to use. Also gel my hands at every opportunity. The markings on paths are all faded/peeled off and no attempt at anyone to stay on the correct sides of the street - the most basic of rules. We also clean everything we buy/bags etc each time, and also wipe down any post.
I am terrified of spending another year like this. It has nearly finished me off mentally and emotionally and I am struggling to carry on to be honest. |
I'll be honest Debsy, and I don't want to come across as an @sshole here, but I struggle to read your posts as every one is so negative. I really think your mental health would do so much better if you could find positive things to fill your mind with instead of always dwelling on the negative.
It might seem hard right now but try with your husband, when you go to bed tonight, to list 10 things you're grateful for. It can be anything - "I'm alive"; "I have food"; "I have shelter"... and it can be silly little things like' "I saw a cute robin in the garden" and "I got off my arris and did the clothes washing even though I didn't really feel like it," and "Dinner was DELISH."
Honestly, it's easier than you think to come up with 10 each - taking it in turns - and if you do it every day it soon becomes a habit of positivity and makes you feel good and grateful for what you have. You can even drop in cheeky/fun ones like "My husband has a cute bum."
I can see positives in your post I'm replying to - "I have a partner to help me through all this", "He did the main shop... like a caveman going out and bringing back the food", "I had milk for my tea today... that 3rd cup was BANGING. really hit the nail..." There you go, 3 for free!
Honestly, it really helps and can be quite fun. The more you actively look for the positives the more you'll find. |  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:46 - Dec 31 with 1645 views | Seablu |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 16:44 - Dec 31 by chrismakin |
That's why I said get army to deliver food.
Jesus. People had to ration to get through he war. I'm sure the army dropping off a box would get people through a lockdown. |
Have you started on the pillock juice a tad early today?
This nonsense together with the tripe you’re spouting on the Cavani thread isn’t doing you any favours. [Post edited 31 Dec 2020 19:52]
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:48 - Dec 31 with 1642 views | DebsyAngel |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:37 - Dec 31 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'll be honest Debsy, and I don't want to come across as an @sshole here, but I struggle to read your posts as every one is so negative. I really think your mental health would do so much better if you could find positive things to fill your mind with instead of always dwelling on the negative.
It might seem hard right now but try with your husband, when you go to bed tonight, to list 10 things you're grateful for. It can be anything - "I'm alive"; "I have food"; "I have shelter"... and it can be silly little things like' "I saw a cute robin in the garden" and "I got off my arris and did the clothes washing even though I didn't really feel like it," and "Dinner was DELISH."
Honestly, it's easier than you think to come up with 10 each - taking it in turns - and if you do it every day it soon becomes a habit of positivity and makes you feel good and grateful for what you have. You can even drop in cheeky/fun ones like "My husband has a cute bum."
I can see positives in your post I'm replying to - "I have a partner to help me through all this", "He did the main shop... like a caveman going out and bringing back the food", "I had milk for my tea today... that 3rd cup was BANGING. really hit the nail..." There you go, 3 for free!
Honestly, it really helps and can be quite fun. The more you actively look for the positives the more you'll find. |
I DO try, but I am also honest with what I put on here. If you see anything I post under music threads and discussion, I am very positive and like sharing stories.
I think I will stop coming on here so much as I bring people down, but it;s harder to cope that most people think. It's not just a case of pulling myself together. | | | |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:48 - Dec 31 with 1640 views | chrismakin |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:46 - Dec 31 by Seablu |
Have you started on the pillock juice a tad early today?
This nonsense together with the tripe you’re spouting on the Cavani thread isn’t doing you any favours. [Post edited 31 Dec 2020 19:52]
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sorry, what tripe ? | |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:51 - Dec 31 with 1631 views | chrismakin |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:48 - Dec 31 by DebsyAngel |
I DO try, but I am also honest with what I put on here. If you see anything I post under music threads and discussion, I am very positive and like sharing stories.
I think I will stop coming on here so much as I bring people down, but it;s harder to cope that most people think. It's not just a case of pulling myself together. |
dont stop posting, the poster who suggested it can decide what they read. | |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:52 - Dec 31 with 1630 views | bluelagos |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:48 - Dec 31 by DebsyAngel |
I DO try, but I am also honest with what I put on here. If you see anything I post under music threads and discussion, I am very positive and like sharing stories.
I think I will stop coming on here so much as I bring people down, but it;s harder to cope that most people think. It's not just a case of pulling myself together. |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55264224
I posted this the other day. Have a read and give some of it a go. :-) |  |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:53 - Dec 31 with 1634 views | snudge27 |
With masks it was always going to be an uphill struggle as soon as Asda and Morrisons announced from the get-go that they wouldn't be enforcing the rules. They may as well have just announced that they were angling for the @rsehole pound instead.
As for click-and-collect, it makes no sense whatsoever. If your product can be delivered then there's no need to get/allow customers to come to your store to collect it.
And then don't get me started on the fact that garden centres, pawnbrokers, and vape shops have been classed as essential businesses... [Post edited 31 Dec 2020 19:59]
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:55 - Dec 31 with 1621 views | brogansnose |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:48 - Dec 31 by DebsyAngel |
I DO try, but I am also honest with what I put on here. If you see anything I post under music threads and discussion, I am very positive and like sharing stories.
I think I will stop coming on here so much as I bring people down, but it;s harder to cope that most people think. It's not just a case of pulling myself together. |
Debsy, don't stop coming on here, its always good to have you around. Let's hope next year gets better for all of us.
Goo easy. |  | | |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:57 - Dec 31 with 1616 views | bluelagos |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:37 - Dec 31 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'll be honest Debsy, and I don't want to come across as an @sshole here, but I struggle to read your posts as every one is so negative. I really think your mental health would do so much better if you could find positive things to fill your mind with instead of always dwelling on the negative.
It might seem hard right now but try with your husband, when you go to bed tonight, to list 10 things you're grateful for. It can be anything - "I'm alive"; "I have food"; "I have shelter"... and it can be silly little things like' "I saw a cute robin in the garden" and "I got off my arris and did the clothes washing even though I didn't really feel like it," and "Dinner was DELISH."
Honestly, it's easier than you think to come up with 10 each - taking it in turns - and if you do it every day it soon becomes a habit of positivity and makes you feel good and grateful for what you have. You can even drop in cheeky/fun ones like "My husband has a cute bum."
I can see positives in your post I'm replying to - "I have a partner to help me through all this", "He did the main shop... like a caveman going out and bringing back the food", "I had milk for my tea today... that 3rd cup was BANGING. really hit the nail..." There you go, 3 for free!
Honestly, it really helps and can be quite fun. The more you actively look for the positives the more you'll find. |
It's not an easy one, especially at the moment.
I'd say to note the things that make you happy - and try and do more of them. And the things that make you unhappy - and try and do less of those.
So Debsy, you say you enjoy going outside - but not inside shops clearly. So get outside - but avoid the shops! Find a quiet green space would be my idea, somewhere that people ignoring social distancing (that you find stressful) won't be.
And you enjoy music - so listen to a load of music :-) You know your faves - so listen to them. Tune in to a radio station that plays your sounds. | |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:59 - Dec 31 with 1608 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:48 - Dec 31 by DebsyAngel |
I DO try, but I am also honest with what I put on here. If you see anything I post under music threads and discussion, I am very positive and like sharing stories.
I think I will stop coming on here so much as I bring people down, but it;s harder to cope that most people think. It's not just a case of pulling myself together. |
Debs, you most certainly don't bring people down. The forum is a great source of support to many. TFS was only trying to help.
Hang on in there, things will eventually get better.
I,m going to get royally pissed now.
Here is to a much better 2021. | |
| We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub. |
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| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 20:02 - Dec 31 with 1589 views | DebsyAngel |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:57 - Dec 31 by bluelagos |
It's not an easy one, especially at the moment.
I'd say to note the things that make you happy - and try and do more of them. And the things that make you unhappy - and try and do less of those.
So Debsy, you say you enjoy going outside - but not inside shops clearly. So get outside - but avoid the shops! Find a quiet green space would be my idea, somewhere that people ignoring social distancing (that you find stressful) won't be.
And you enjoy music - so listen to a load of music :-) You know your faves - so listen to them. Tune in to a radio station that plays your sounds. |
I do need to try to get over my fear of going into shops as will not benefit me in the long run, but I do listen to music all day, every day and participate/cpntribute to a friend's MIXLR channel so I do try. Thank you for your kind words. | | | |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 20:05 - Dec 31 with 1576 views | Seablu |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 19:48 - Dec 31 by chrismakin |
sorry, what tripe ? |
The tripe you posted on the Cavani thread.
The thread regarding Cavani’s 3 game ban for using a racist term.
If you click on your threads tab you can refresh your memory.
It was nearly 3 hours ago, so I see your problem. | | | |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 20:07 - Dec 31 with 1568 views | chrismakin |
| Nearly 60,000 covid cases on 20:05 - Dec 31 by Seablu |
The tripe you posted on the Cavani thread.
The thread regarding Cavani’s 3 game ban for using a racist term.
If you click on your threads tab you can refresh your memory.
It was nearly 3 hours ago, so I see your problem. |
yes well aware of the thread, but not sure what tripe you're on about tbh | |
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