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Post-Brexit diplomacy 08:11 - Jan 21 with 933 viewsHerbivore

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55742664

Excellent stuff. I like that we're not going half hearted at turning the UK into a banana republic.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:11 - Jan 21 with 632 viewsDanTheMan

This seems needlessly petty.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:12 - Jan 21 with 623 viewsHerbivore

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:11 - Jan 21 by DanTheMan

This seems needlessly petty.


'Needlessly petty' could easily be our new national motto.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:21 - Jan 21 with 587 viewsBlueRaider

If the norm around the world is for the EU ambassador to have diplomatic credentials then we should grant them too

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:22 - Jan 21 with 582 views26_Paz

Are you a sovereign nation?
If yes you can have an ambassador
If no and you are, in fact, a trading block you can not have an ambassador.
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:23 - Jan 21 with 582 viewsDanTheMan

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:22 - Jan 21 by 26_Paz

Are you a sovereign nation?
If yes you can have an ambassador
If no and you are, in fact, a trading block you can not have an ambassador.
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
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And yet all the other countries don't seem to have a problem with the arrangement.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:24 - Jan 21 with 577 viewsHerbivore

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:22 - Jan 21 by 26_Paz

Are you a sovereign nation?
If yes you can have an ambassador
If no and you are, in fact, a trading block you can not have an ambassador.
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
[Post edited 21 Jan 8:24]


Have a day off:

"The British decision is in marked contrast to 142 other countries around the world where the EU has delegations and where its ambassadors are all granted the same status as diplomats representing sovereign nations."

They represent 27 of our nearest neighbours and are our biggest trading bloc. This is a pathetic decision designed to play to the most base morons only.
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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:26 - Jan 21 with 566 viewsMattinLondon

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:22 - Jan 21 by 26_Paz

Are you a sovereign nation?
If yes you can have an ambassador
If no and you are, in fact, a trading block you can not have an ambassador.
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
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So you’re saying that whilst in the EU, the UK was in fact still a sovereign state, and all this talk of independence, is in fact a load of balls?
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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:29 - Jan 21 with 553 viewsHerbivore

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:26 - Jan 21 by MattinLondon

So you’re saying that whilst in the EU, the UK was in fact still a sovereign state, and all this talk of independence, is in fact a load of balls?


That'll confuse him.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:44 - Jan 21 with 523 viewsbluelagos

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:24 - Jan 21 by Herbivore

Have a day off:

"The British decision is in marked contrast to 142 other countries around the world where the EU has delegations and where its ambassadors are all granted the same status as diplomats representing sovereign nations."

They represent 27 of our nearest neighbours and are our biggest trading bloc. This is a pathetic decision designed to play to the most base morons only.
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Seems to have hit the spot.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:46 - Jan 21 with 515 views26_Paz

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:26 - Jan 21 by MattinLondon

So you’re saying that whilst in the EU, the UK was in fact still a sovereign state, and all this talk of independence, is in fact a load of balls?


We were a sovereign state who’s sovereignty was being eroded by a trading block we had signed up to years ago. Trying to represent us diplomatically by having an ambassador in different countries presumably acting on our behalf is just one example of this.
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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:51 - Jan 21 with 496 viewsHerbivore

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:46 - Jan 21 by 26_Paz

We were a sovereign state who’s sovereignty was being eroded by a trading block we had signed up to years ago. Trying to represent us diplomatically by having an ambassador in different countries presumably acting on our behalf is just one example of this.


Yeah, as I said this kind of thing only really appeals to the most base morons.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:53 - Jan 21 with 467 viewsSwansea_Blue

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:22 - Jan 21 by 26_Paz

Are you a sovereign nation?
If yes you can have an ambassador
If no and you are, in fact, a trading block you can not have an ambassador.
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
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Things aren't that straightforward though; they tend to be a bit more nuanced.

The article makes explains the diplomatic implications of taking such a stand and how we would be alone in doing so. Sure, we could play hard and fast and have such a ruling, but at the cost of better relations. And better relations tend to come in useful when you want something, such as improved access to EU markets.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:54 - Jan 21 with 459 views26_Paz

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:51 - Jan 21 by Herbivore

Yeah, as I said this kind of thing only really appeals to the most base morons.


Moron, nice - I wonder where that sits on the abuse scale
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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:54 - Jan 21 with 458 viewsSteve_M

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:11 - Jan 21 by DanTheMan

This seems needlessly petty.


It will get a few positive headlines from the terminally short-sighted but works entirely against the UK's interests across any timescale one cares to look at.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:55 - Jan 21 with 455 viewsHerbivore

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:54 - Jan 21 by 26_Paz

Moron, nice - I wonder where that sits on the abuse scale


You're missing the context.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:57 - Jan 21 with 446 viewsMattinLondon

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:54 - Jan 21 by 26_Paz

Moron, nice - I wonder where that sits on the abuse scale


If you accept c**t being the tip of abuse scale then moron is someway near the bottom end of it. In between idiot and numbskull.
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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:58 - Jan 21 with 445 viewsBlueLikeJazz

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:46 - Jan 21 by 26_Paz

We were a sovereign state who’s sovereignty was being eroded by a trading block we had signed up to years ago. Trying to represent us diplomatically by having an ambassador in different countries presumably acting on our behalf is just one example of this.


Our sovereignty wasn't being 'eroded', we chose to pool some of it for the common good, and for the good of people in this country. As we do every time we sign any kind of treaty with any other country. People like you aren't living in the real world.

Edited to add: I presume you think you're a patriot. You do not get to wrap yourself in the flag and bleat about what a patriot you are, whilst at the same time supporting actions that damage this country, damage the lives of its people, and damage our standing in the world. That's not patriotism, that's treachery.
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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:59 - Jan 21 with 427 viewsfactual_blue

At least we can be a bendy banana republic.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:59 - Jan 21 with 430 viewsfooters

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:46 - Jan 21 by 26_Paz

We were a sovereign state who’s sovereignty was being eroded by a trading block we had signed up to years ago. Trying to represent us diplomatically by having an ambassador in different countries presumably acting on our behalf is just one example of this.


So the UK doesn't have its own ambassadors now? Blimey. It's news to me.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:59 - Jan 21 with 429 viewsDarth_Koont

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:46 - Jan 21 by 26_Paz

We were a sovereign state who’s sovereignty was being eroded by a trading block we had signed up to years ago. Trying to represent us diplomatically by having an ambassador in different countries presumably acting on our behalf is just one example of this.


Despite the EU, we’ve always had and will continue to have ambassadors and diplomatic relations to individual EU states.

You’re being silly and small-minded.
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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 09:02 - Jan 21 with 417 viewsSwansea_Blue

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:59 - Jan 21 by Darth_Koont

Despite the EU, we’ve always had and will continue to have ambassadors and diplomatic relations to individual EU states.

You’re being silly and small-minded.


He's just being tribal. If the Government had given an EU ambassador equivalent rights even though no other country had, he'd be defending that too. The actual subject doesn't matter an probably hadn't been herd of anyway until this thread. The main thing is to oppose and try to own the libtards.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 09:02 - Jan 21 with 419 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Apparently the EU has surrendered and is now going to rip up the trade agreement - the express says so, so it must be true. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brussels-surrenders-and-prepares-to-tear-u

Although, the article does go on to say that the "surrender" appears to be allowing lorry drivers to bring cheese and ham into the EU in their packed lunches. Well done, though, the Brexiteers have now won thanks to Brussels surrender after 20 days of this siege.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 09:03 - Jan 21 with 406 viewsMattinLondon

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:59 - Jan 21 by Darth_Koont

Despite the EU, we’ve always had and will continue to have ambassadors and diplomatic relations to individual EU states.

You’re being silly and small-minded.


To be fair he’s simply following the Tory/Brexit party line who are silly and small-minded. So not his fault.
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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 09:09 - Jan 21 with 379 viewsfactual_blue

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 09:02 - Jan 21 by Nthsuffolkblue

Apparently the EU has surrendered and is now going to rip up the trade agreement - the express says so, so it must be true. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brussels-surrenders-and-prepares-to-tear-u

Although, the article does go on to say that the "surrender" appears to be allowing lorry drivers to bring cheese and ham into the EU in their packed lunches. Well done, though, the Brexiteers have now won thanks to Brussels surrender after 20 days of this siege.


Although when all's said and done it's just somebody speculating these things might happen. Probably somebody at the express making stuff up.

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Post-Brexit diplomacy on 09:21 - Jan 21 with 362 viewsChurchman

Post-Brexit diplomacy on 08:12 - Jan 21 by Herbivore

'Needlessly petty' could easily be our new national motto.


I agree, it’s needlessly petty. Sadly, both sides are being needlessly petty. The EU are making cross channel trade as difficult as possible for political reasons (unnecessarily in my view) and the U.K. is being awkward with this and no doubt other things too.

As I’ve said before, countries and blocks are about people and jobs. Making life difficult ultimately harms them, who when it comes down to it aren’t interested in silly people posturing in front of huge flags.
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