| Cardiff Fans view 10:53 - Jan 22 with 5983 views | unstableblue |
"OMG....hope we don't get him. Not a great recent record. He's not the way forward for our club surely!! We need a more modern and progressive manager. You can tell from his punditry that he's a no nonsense, up and at 'em type manager. Everything based on discipline, workrate, crunching tackles and the like. We need a bit more than that."
"I'd be devasted to see Mcarthy come in. Absolute fossil of a manager. Would show there is no long term plan or any sort of DESIRE TO CHANGE OUR STYLE OF PLAY. We are never going to move forward if keep appointing managers like him as when he leaves we'll be right back to square 1."
"I an see why the club would go for McCarthy he is the boring safe choice. Very experienced at this level where he has had quite a bit of success. But the safe choice isn't always the right choice,look at Sheffield Wednesday and Pulis. There must be a bit of suspicion that McCarthy is a bit past he sell by date,there was his dreadful spell in Cyprus and He was not rated very highly by Ipswich fans. Possibly they have a bit better regard for him now as the season after he left they were relegated and don't look like getting out of league one any time soon."
"Looks like our club, Dalman, Choo and Tan will f**k this up again. Mick McCarthy ffs. Go and get Bellamy and get the passion, drive and PLAY FOOTBALL THE FANS WANT. Not Pulis, Hughes or any of these failed managers. |  |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 16:17 - Jan 22 with 1523 views | jeera |
I hadn't realised Cardiff are currently sitting in 15th.
If that's not some kind of sign then I don't know what is. |  |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 20:13 - Jan 22 with 1452 views | chrismakin |
| Cardiff Fans view on 11:06 - Jan 22 by Steve_M |
At some point you might be forced to accept that Mick McCarthy has been the best thing for ITFC in the entire time Evans has owned the club.
Although you might choose to argue that we've gone from strength to strength in the 33 months since he left. [Post edited 22 Jan 2021 11:16]
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Some might point out too that ipswich isn't the first club to end up relegated and going in the wrong direction after MM left the club |  |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 20:16 - Jan 22 with 1449 views | monty_radio |
| Cardiff Fans view on 20:13 - Jan 22 by chrismakin |
Some might point out too that ipswich isn't the first club to end up relegated and going in the wrong direction after MM left the club |
That's evidence that can point in two directions, though. |  |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 20:17 - Jan 22 with 1446 views | Keaneish |
| Cardiff Fans view on 11:06 - Jan 22 by Steve_M |
At some point you might be forced to accept that Mick McCarthy has been the best thing for ITFC in the entire time Evans has owned the club.
Although you might choose to argue that we've gone from strength to strength in the 33 months since he left. [Post edited 22 Jan 2021 11:16]
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If you’d said, “...the most practical or pragmatic thing”, I’d agree with you. |  |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 20:18 - Jan 22 with 1447 views | chrismakin |
| Cardiff Fans view on 13:30 - Jan 22 by PhilTWTD |
It does feel very similar, perhaps worse. I don't remember any plans for organised demonstrations being drawn up under Mick, although obviously the situation is unique at the moment with fans not being in a position to show their frustrations at games. |
I think the difference is the majority knew Mick didn't have the financial support when it mattered but he as a manager tried his best and in most cases did the most obvious things when it came to managing the team, he also saved the club from relegation which gave him alot of love, and rightfully. But that does only last so long. I think the Norwich FU was the bit that did it.
Lambert does all of the opposite of what would make sense to supporters, the crazy rotation last season, then the complete turnaround this season of sticking to the same players despite how rubbish they are Judge/Huws/Sears, the refusal to work with a 4-4-2, despite again it has shown it works etc
Think thats why Lambert has more heat, he just looks absolutely clueless, even more so than Hurst. [Post edited 22 Jan 2021 20:19]
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| Cardiff Fans view on 20:22 - Jan 22 with 1440 views | chrismakin |
| Cardiff Fans view on 20:16 - Jan 22 by monty_radio |
That's evidence that can point in two directions, though. |
It is, but then you have comments from Hurst and Lambert about how certain things weren't right behind the scenes, some things weren't set up well etc | |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 20:29 - Jan 22 with 1432 views | monty_radio |
| Cardiff Fans view on 20:22 - Jan 22 by chrismakin |
It is, but then you have comments from Hurst and Lambert about how certain things weren't right behind the scenes, some things weren't set up well etc |
I assumed, wrongly as it turns out, that you were flying a flag for him as I don't generally follow who is an outer and who's an apologist, unless they never miss an opportunity to tell you. | |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 20:35 - Jan 22 with 1417 views | Seablu |
| Cardiff Fans view on 11:20 - Jan 22 by PhilTWTD |
No, but I think it became clear what Mick's strengths and weaknesses were and by the time he went, he had to go, the atmosphere was getting thoroughly toxic and he'd become box office poison, regardless of whether he would have kept us in the Championship. The wrong subsequent decisions don't make the one to jettison him incorrect.
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We can only imagine what you feel about Lambo then.... |  | | |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 20:55 - Jan 22 with 1394 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Cardiff Fans view on 20:22 - Jan 22 by chrismakin |
It is, but then you have comments from Hurst and Lambert about how certain things weren't right behind the scenes, some things weren't set up well etc |
Well if Paul’s Hurst and Lambert said so... |  |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 20:59 - Jan 22 with 1390 views | chrismakin |
| Cardiff Fans view on 20:55 - Jan 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Well if Paul’s Hurst and Lambert said so... |
Is in an interesting stat
Sunderland
Wolves
Ipswich
All relegated when Mick left.
Something for Cardiff to look forward to | |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 21:01 - Jan 22 with 1384 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Cardiff Fans view on 20:59 - Jan 22 by chrismakin |
Is in an interesting stat
Sunderland
Wolves
Ipswich
All relegated when Mick left.
Something for Cardiff to look forward to |
Two of those were relegated from the league he promoted them into though
As for us, the fact we fell apart after he left is more of a testament to him than anything else | |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 21:04 - Jan 22 with 1380 views | jeera |
| Cardiff Fans view on 21:01 - Jan 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Two of those were relegated from the league he promoted them into though
As for us, the fact we fell apart after he left is more of a testament to him than anything else |
I don't understand that argument either but there ya go.
It shows how finely things were being held together, nothing more.
If the next person in can't maintain it then that's on them. | |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 21:23 - Jan 22 with 1347 views | Keaneish |
| Cardiff Fans view on 21:01 - Jan 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Two of those were relegated from the league he promoted them into though
As for us, the fact we fell apart after he left is more of a testament to him than anything else |
That’s also evidence that can point in two directions though...
And so the debate rolls on. | |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 21:29 - Jan 22 with 1344 views | chrismakin |
| Cardiff Fans view on 21:04 - Jan 22 by jeera |
I don't understand that argument either but there ya go.
It shows how finely things were being held together, nothing more.
If the next person in can't maintain it then that's on them. |
One view I have, but of course i've no idea how it worked at Sunderland/Wolves is that Mick was good at getting a side together and didn't need a lot of cash to do it. BUT the teams were his teams and without him the club had nothing to work with... i.e no youth system used to help when needed, no players playing for the club itself only for Mick, so when he does leave, the clubs got nothing to work with,
I could of course be way off... But that's one potential view point. | |
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| I think that's the issue.... on 21:49 - Jan 22 with 1327 views | PhilTWTD |
| I think that's the issue.... on 13:50 - Jan 22 by Bloots |
...some fans are remembering the atmosphere at the end of Mick's reign.
The lack of interest and the negativity.
If we would have been at football for the last year things would have been a lot worse this time around.
It wouldn't just be a bedsheet with "In Mick we tRust" written on it.
It's not easy to gauge the feeling of discontent through social media, it would be easy with 15-20 thousand in the ground.
Although that number would be a lot lower now.
Lambert out. |
I think, if the situation remains the same once season tickets go on sale for next season, people will vote with their feet in the same way as they were in Mick's latter days. Will be very hard for the club to persuade fans to renew their season tickets. |  | | |
| Cardiff Fans view on 21:50 - Jan 22 with 1317 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Cardiff Fans view on 21:23 - Jan 22 by Keaneish |
That’s also evidence that can point in two directions though...
And so the debate rolls on. |
Yes - it points to him not being good enough to keep teams in the PL, and in our case his successor absolutely decimating the squad as we well know | |
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| I think that's the issue.... on 21:54 - Jan 22 with 1307 views | chrismakin |
| I think that's the issue.... on 21:49 - Jan 22 by PhilTWTD |
I think, if the situation remains the same once season tickets go on sale for next season, people will vote with their feet in the same way as they were in Mick's latter days. Will be very hard for the club to persuade fans to renew their season tickets. |
Im quite shocked Lambert has been given support which has to be down to the injury list
Now would have been a great time for a new manager to come in, free pass to try and get us up with what we've got with no pressure, also would give the new manager time to know what players need cutting in the summer to trim the squad to make room for new ones/salary cap
Evans playing a risky game imo | |
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| I think that's the issue.... on 22:09 - Jan 22 with 1291 views | Keaneish |
| I think that's the issue.... on 21:49 - Jan 22 by PhilTWTD |
I think, if the situation remains the same once season tickets go on sale for next season, people will vote with their feet in the same way as they were in Mick's latter days. Will be very hard for the club to persuade fans to renew their season tickets. |
Part of the issue out of Mick’s control was that ticket prices went up. I think that was the final nail for a lot of people and attendances dwindled.
Found this article on a Cardiff forum which is a good balanced read
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/11326160/mick-mccarthy-leaves-ipsw | |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 23:51 - Jan 22 with 1251 views | Churchman |
| Cardiff Fans view on 11:13 - Jan 22 by Pique |
The best thing to happen to the club in over thirteen years isn’t the lowest benchmark you can set either. |
MMs teams were workmanlike then sucked the life out of one. They were truly awful. Hoofball, zero midfield, hoping for a 0-0 against dross with one up front, patronising post match drivel. He was better than the three before and two after. So what? It’s irrelevant. He’s gone. Mismanagement of ITFC into oblivion reflects totally, on Evans. Is he doing it deliberately? No idea but for sure he doesn’t care and never did after the quick buck policy failed.
That anyone from the crowd could have done better than the last two idiots doesn’t make MM anything better than he was. He’d had his time here and unlike many on here I can get dewy eyed remembering his tenure, much as I enjoyed chunks of 2014/15.
Good luck Cardiff. He’ll possibly get them promoted because although their owner is a pillock, he’s light years better than asset sweat Evans and will give him enough ££. MM knows how to scramble out of that division and a season later he will be gone because Stone Age football doesn’t work in the PL. |  | | |
| Cardiff Fans view on 00:12 - Jan 23 with 1243 views | SpruceMoose |
| Cardiff Fans view on 11:20 - Jan 22 by PhilTWTD |
No, but I think it became clear what Mick's strengths and weaknesses were and by the time he went, he had to go, the atmosphere was getting thoroughly toxic and he'd become box office poison, regardless of whether he would have kept us in the Championship. The wrong subsequent decisions don't make the one to jettison him incorrect.
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Hmmm.
Sounds familiar.
Lambert out. |  |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 07:22 - Jan 23 with 1187 views | Keaneish |
| Cardiff Fans view on 23:51 - Jan 22 by Churchman |
MMs teams were workmanlike then sucked the life out of one. They were truly awful. Hoofball, zero midfield, hoping for a 0-0 against dross with one up front, patronising post match drivel. He was better than the three before and two after. So what? It’s irrelevant. He’s gone. Mismanagement of ITFC into oblivion reflects totally, on Evans. Is he doing it deliberately? No idea but for sure he doesn’t care and never did after the quick buck policy failed.
That anyone from the crowd could have done better than the last two idiots doesn’t make MM anything better than he was. He’d had his time here and unlike many on here I can get dewy eyed remembering his tenure, much as I enjoyed chunks of 2014/15.
Good luck Cardiff. He’ll possibly get them promoted because although their owner is a pillock, he’s light years better than asset sweat Evans and will give him enough ££. MM knows how to scramble out of that division and a season later he will be gone because Stone Age football doesn’t work in the PL. |
It’s easy to forget the bad things over the good. Reading that article I posted I’d forgotten we wracked up 7 defeats in 8 and failed to score in the first half of 17 out of 20 games.
The best article I read that summed up Mick read something like this, “Mick McCarthy is Mick McCarthy all the time, to the limit. His favourite colour is brown. His favourite holiday destination the garden. His favourite food is breadsticks. Would you like sparking water with that? Luke warm please”. Unique and unapologetically uninspiring - the Mick way.
Good luck to him at Cardiff but, in true Mick fashion he’s taken up the offer of a 6-month contract to try and win another by showing the world that it’s him against them and he deserves something more rewarding. The fact that he had it by default as Paul Cook turned it down won’t phase him, “water of a ducks back that”.
Mick’s words to us in 2012 -“The long-term ambition is to take the club back into the Premier League”. Ironic really given vitriolic statements since like “be careful what you wish for” and “that ended well for them”. We were no closer to the PL in 2018 than we were by the end of 2013. | |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 07:54 - Jan 23 with 1168 views | Herbivore |
| Cardiff Fans view on 07:22 - Jan 23 by Keaneish |
It’s easy to forget the bad things over the good. Reading that article I posted I’d forgotten we wracked up 7 defeats in 8 and failed to score in the first half of 17 out of 20 games.
The best article I read that summed up Mick read something like this, “Mick McCarthy is Mick McCarthy all the time, to the limit. His favourite colour is brown. His favourite holiday destination the garden. His favourite food is breadsticks. Would you like sparking water with that? Luke warm please”. Unique and unapologetically uninspiring - the Mick way.
Good luck to him at Cardiff but, in true Mick fashion he’s taken up the offer of a 6-month contract to try and win another by showing the world that it’s him against them and he deserves something more rewarding. The fact that he had it by default as Paul Cook turned it down won’t phase him, “water of a ducks back that”.
Mick’s words to us in 2012 -“The long-term ambition is to take the club back into the Premier League”. Ironic really given vitriolic statements since like “be careful what you wish for” and “that ended well for them”. We were no closer to the PL in 2018 than we were by the end of 2013. |
So much bitterness still. |  |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 08:11 - Jan 23 with 1153 views | Keaneish |
| Cardiff Fans view on 07:54 - Jan 23 by Herbivore |
So much bitterness still. |
I think that says more about you than it does about me if you think there’s bitterness in that tone. Just laying the truths out objectively, as much as that might conflict with the enduring misty eyed stoicism of some. | |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 08:16 - Jan 23 with 1142 views | Herbivore |
| Cardiff Fans view on 08:11 - Jan 23 by Keaneish |
I think that says more about you than it does about me if you think there’s bitterness in that tone. Just laying the truths out objectively, as much as that might conflict with the enduring misty eyed stoicism of some. |
Yeah, that's really not what you were doing. It's not good to hold on to ill feeling, it's been nearly 3 years since he left now. | |
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| Cardiff Fans view on 08:23 - Jan 23 with 1133 views | Keaneish |
| Cardiff Fans view on 08:16 - Jan 23 by Herbivore |
Yeah, that's really not what you were doing. It's not good to hold on to ill feeling, it's been nearly 3 years since he left now. |
Laying it all out for what it is, Herbs. The same as you do every day on Lambert. Sharing opinion on news when it arises as is the point of forum and debate. | |
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