| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? 11:07 - Feb 18 with 12043 views | Keno |
obviously if you have but cant say anything we would understand
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:28 - Feb 18 with 1746 views | GodBlue |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:21 - Feb 18 by xrayspecs |
As I understand it the interest was genuine but not Ipswich specific, these were parties who wanted to buy into a football club. The value of the deal cooled interest and they moved onto other clubs. |
I assume that's how most football club purchases happen these days.
You're in luck if you find a party that's got the money to buy your club AND has more than a passing interest in it as a fan.
I'd happily give someone a chance to grow to love the club. We all did after all. |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:32 - Feb 18 with 1728 views | hype313 |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:26 - Feb 18 by PhilTWTD |
Agree, must take up a lot of his time - particularly as he's unwilling to delegate - in addition to all the money when he's got other businesses to be running and with them also likely to be having a tough time. |
Generally there is no smoke without fire, and I can't for the life of me think why he hasn't had a conversation with Lambert, unless he's trying to keep some semblance of continuity for a sale of some sort.
That's my reading, it's the only logical reason as to why Lambert is still in situ for me. |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:35 - Feb 18 with 1700 views | GodBlue |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:13 - Feb 18 by hype313 |
It's in his interests to fund the loans even if he's looking to sell, the club is far more sellable the higher up they can get.
I happen to think he hasn't lost interest per se, but given Covid and his other businesses, I just wonder if he thinks he could do without the hassle of running a football club and let someone else fund the annual loss.
13 years is a long time of continued failure and he's far further away from where he wants to be than when he took over, can't really blame him if he's lost his appetite. |
Yeah, that's a much better way of saying that I was getting at. | |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:35 - Feb 18 with 1692 views | SpruceMoose |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:32 - Feb 18 by hype313 |
Generally there is no smoke without fire, and I can't for the life of me think why he hasn't had a conversation with Lambert, unless he's trying to keep some semblance of continuity for a sale of some sort.
That's my reading, it's the only logical reason as to why Lambert is still in situ for me. |
Just let your mind run in a terrifying direction for a moment...
What if Evans still thinks Lambert is still the man to turn our fortunes around?
That, to me at least, is the scariest behind the scenes position I can think of right now... |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:37 - Feb 18 with 1685 views | PhilTWTD |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:32 - Feb 18 by hype313 |
Generally there is no smoke without fire, and I can't for the life of me think why he hasn't had a conversation with Lambert, unless he's trying to keep some semblance of continuity for a sale of some sort.
That's my reading, it's the only logical reason as to why Lambert is still in situ for me. |
From what I gather PL and ME talk more regularly than other managers did. Whether they've had a chat since Tuesday I don't know.
In December ME said he felt injuries had been the issue, then in January he added four players to the squad. Could still be allowing time for them to bed in etc.
However, I think we're at the nailing down a replacement stage and the sack will come as soon as that's sorted. As with Jim, a week or so after the game which finally made up ME's mind to make the change. |  | | |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:38 - Feb 18 with 1654 views | SenatorBlue |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:35 - Feb 18 by SpruceMoose |
Just let your mind run in a terrifying direction for a moment...
What if Evans still thinks Lambert is still the man to turn our fortunes around?
That, to me at least, is the scariest behind the scenes position I can think of right now... |
Just as hope was starting to peek through at the suggestion of a possible takeover, CEO/DOF, new manager combo, you bring us right back to the scary reality of the counterweight. [Post edited 18 Feb 2021 14:40]
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:44 - Feb 18 with 1623 views | ArnieM |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:38 - Feb 18 by SenatorBlue |
Just as hope was starting to peek through at the suggestion of a possible takeover, CEO/DOF, new manager combo, you bring us right back to the scary reality of the counterweight. [Post edited 18 Feb 2021 14:40]
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I’d suggest Town are as ripe for selling now as at anytime for Evans. Half the squad will be out the door in the summer, meaning wages bill will be significantly cut. He’s at that point we’re it’s diminishing returns isn’t it. And that have been the case for a couple of years now. Lamberts contract clauses could well be evoked when Evans sells the club on...... I’ve felt for a number of weeks that Evans just might finally have had enough now....haven’t we all !! |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:45 - Feb 18 with 1605 views | SpruceMoose |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:38 - Feb 18 by SenatorBlue |
Just as hope was starting to peek through at the suggestion of a possible takeover, CEO/DOF, new manager combo, you bring us right back to the scary reality of the counterweight. [Post edited 18 Feb 2021 14:40]
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Occam's razor and all that! I keep hearing these other possibilities but I keep coming back to the simplest one. Maybe Evans is considering a replacement, but he's in no damn rush so clearly he's not too anxious about the rest of this season and having Lambert in charge! | |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:49 - Feb 18 with 1584 views | itfc1108 |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:37 - Feb 18 by PhilTWTD |
From what I gather PL and ME talk more regularly than other managers did. Whether they've had a chat since Tuesday I don't know.
In December ME said he felt injuries had been the issue, then in January he added four players to the squad. Could still be allowing time for them to bed in etc.
However, I think we're at the nailing down a replacement stage and the sack will come as soon as that's sorted. As with Jim, a week or so after the game which finally made up ME's mind to make the change. |
Phil, do you recall what was the gentlemens agreement he made with David Sheepshanks when he took over the club?
I can vaguely remember reading about a part of the deal, that he promised Sheepshanks he would keep to. |  | | |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:56 - Feb 18 with 1545 views | JohnWarksTash |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:09 - Feb 18 by SingBlue |
Please don’t use this analogy otherwise we might end up with Dion Dublin as our next manager...
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It would be an interesting choice...but I liiiiike it....
(Athletic Mince reference which is probably lost on everyone...but made me smile) |  | | |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:57 - Feb 18 with 1534 views | hype313 |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:37 - Feb 18 by PhilTWTD |
From what I gather PL and ME talk more regularly than other managers did. Whether they've had a chat since Tuesday I don't know.
In December ME said he felt injuries had been the issue, then in January he added four players to the squad. Could still be allowing time for them to bed in etc.
However, I think we're at the nailing down a replacement stage and the sack will come as soon as that's sorted. As with Jim, a week or so after the game which finally made up ME's mind to make the change. |
I get that with the Injuries etc, but given what's come out over the past few days it sounds like the whole place is toxic, disgruntled employees across the board all emanating from Lambert.
It certainly does look like a similar situation with Jim, well, we hope, trouble is none of us really know what's been going on behind the scenes. But I just can't see how Lamberts comments to the media about Evans will have gone down well. | |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 15:08 - Feb 18 with 1473 views | HighgateBlue |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 13:38 - Feb 18 by Ryorry |
Mike Ashley buying would be akin to jumping from the frying pan into the fire methinks. |
Quite possibly. But there are plenty of people on here who seem to think that as long as we jump out of the frying pan it doesn't matter where we land. They are wrong... |  | | |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 15:09 - Feb 18 with 1463 views | hype313 |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 14:35 - Feb 18 by SpruceMoose |
Just let your mind run in a terrifying direction for a moment...
What if Evans still thinks Lambert is still the man to turn our fortunes around?
That, to me at least, is the scariest behind the scenes position I can think of right now... |
That's too painful to even contemplate, trouble is, with our current owner, it wouldn't surprise me! | |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 20:32 - Feb 18 with 1231 views | BluedanW |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 13:52 - Feb 18 by PhilTWTD |
I don't think the debt is particularly an issue, the loans were always made with little expectation they'd be paid back. But he'll want as much as he can get for it, won't he? |
I found this report via talks port and the sun newspaper so not the most reliable.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/talksport.com/football/efl/456646/championship-ip
Back in 2018 he was willing to sell for £35M
But he still wanted his £100M debt back | | | |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 20:36 - Feb 18 with 1209 views | BryanPlug |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 20:40 - Feb 18 with 1183 views | Westcountryblue |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 11:10 - Feb 18 by PhilTWTD |
I have heard a couple of whispers about interest over the last few months but from what I was told they didn't come to anything. |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 20:41 - Feb 18 with 1173 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 12:02 - Feb 18 by BryanPlug |
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Technically it's worth nothing.
A competitor of ours went bust a couple of years back and whilst they were a very leading name in the industry there was a lot of baggage. I nearly offered £1 but decided against it as I was worried I might win and get myself into a pickle.
Not that it's of any interest but it was sold for £500k - so I guess Evans has a chance of something.
The thing is, from what I continue to hear - he actually likes owning a football club. |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 20:44 - Feb 18 with 1146 views | BluedanW |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 20:36 - Feb 18 by BryanPlug |
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No i don't expect anyone to pay that. See my earlier post.
But apparently a few years ago Marcus expected that.
Phil doesn't believe he is worried about the debt. Maybe that is his position now as he realises the current market value of our club is very low and he is willing to cut his losses | | | |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 20:48 - Feb 18 with 1102 views | gordon |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 20:36 - Feb 18 by BryanPlug |
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It doesn't mean he wants someone to pay off the debt, what they would do would convert the £100m (or whatever the debt to ME Group is) to a loan note which stated that in the case of ITFC ever being in the Premier League, loan repayments are triggered.
At the current point it would be the best chance of ME ever getting that money back to be honest - he would sell for basically nothing I think now, because if he were to stay as owner but cut funding even more it could potentially hurt his reputation and affect his other businesses, but he also probably knows he'd have to throw massive amounts of cash at it now to get us anywhere near the Premier League. |  | | |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 20:48 - Feb 18 with 1099 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 13:52 - Feb 18 by PhilTWTD |
I don't think the debt is particularly an issue, the loans were always made with little expectation they'd be paid back. But he'll want as much as he can get for it, won't he? |
I've always thought that will be an issue. He might have written the loans off, but it'll certainly be in the back of his mind how much he's spent on us and he won't want to sell us cheaply. Even though we're a basket case in need of serious investment in facilities by the sounds of it. I've always strongly suspected he'd struggle to sell because of unrealistic expectations on the price. |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 20:50 - Feb 18 with 1079 views | Ryorry |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 20:48 - Feb 18 by gordon |
It doesn't mean he wants someone to pay off the debt, what they would do would convert the £100m (or whatever the debt to ME Group is) to a loan note which stated that in the case of ITFC ever being in the Premier League, loan repayments are triggered.
At the current point it would be the best chance of ME ever getting that money back to be honest - he would sell for basically nothing I think now, because if he were to stay as owner but cut funding even more it could potentially hurt his reputation and affect his other businesses, but he also probably knows he'd have to throw massive amounts of cash at it now to get us anywhere near the Premier League. |
You sound a lot more clued-up than ME appears to be. |  |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 21:03 - Feb 18 with 1010 views | Lord_Lucan |
Hang on.
I haven't read the thread and I can't be arsed so this might have been covered - but part of the deal that Sheepshanks done was to put a clause in that he had to walk away with any debt if it went tits up.
In any case in business deals it never comes to (for example) £35m plus £100m debt back, that's ridiculous. The price would be £135m.
Maybe £35m up front and £100m over 20 years. | |
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| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 21:16 - Feb 18 with 935 views | gordon |
| Phil - just out of interest are you aware of any take over rumours? on 20:48 - Feb 18 by Swansea_Blue |
I've always thought that will be an issue. He might have written the loans off, but it'll certainly be in the back of his mind how much he's spent on us and he won't want to sell us cheaply. Even though we're a basket case in need of serious investment in facilities by the sounds of it. I've always strongly suspected he'd struggle to sell because of unrealistic expectations on the price. |
Suspect he will be adjusting his expectations on price rather rapidly at the moment! ITFC is a liability that costs him about £6 million a year on average (or something like that). The value the club is basically nil, unless someone really rich really wants to own ITFC, in whichcase it has a lot of value, potentially. But I think if that person existed we would already know about them. | | | |
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