| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:09 - Mar 5 with 2049 views | Swansea_Blue |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 09:18 - Mar 5 by ElderGrizzly |
It started off as a £12bn estimate, went to £22bn and now £37bn.
Yet they are about to start laying off staff, reducing the T&T workforce by 30%.
So where is the money going?
Interestingly in New Zealand, their equivalent service cost $6.4m to set up (£3.2m) and it works well. There are ongoing costs, but they're expecting them to be less than $15m per year. We spent over 2400 X what NZ spent, but only has 13 X the population. |
Hardly a fair comparison with NZ though is it? For a start they're good and not corrupt  .
If there was any doubt that the Tory praise for the NHS through the pandemic has just been for show (there wasn't for anyone paying attention), this should make even the staunchest Tory supporter feel a bit sick.
The budget is pretty grim for a lot of public services. Austerity full steam ahead it seems. |  |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:09 - Mar 5 with 2049 views | BlueBadger |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:04 - Mar 5 by pointofblue |
At least it explains where some of the magical savings from leaving the EU have gone. |
Strictly speaking, that's not *some* that's *twice* the alleged savings. |  |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:10 - Mar 5 with 2041 views | Basuco |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 09:51 - Mar 5 by StokieBlue |
I suspect a lot of people would put their hands in their pockets to fund the NHS if that was guaranteed to be the destination of the money.
For instance, a 1% increase to income tax which was ringfenced for the NHS would likely gain a lot of traction in my view.
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The problem is the government quote NHS spending, rather than money spent on patient care, so it includes a lot of the additional spending on inflated prices of PPE to friends and relatives of the Conservative Party over the last year. There seems to be plenty of money available to give to private companies gifted contracts within the NHS but precious little for front line patient care the NHS. |  | | |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:17 - Mar 5 with 2025 views | BlueBadger |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:09 - Mar 5 by Swansea_Blue |
Hardly a fair comparison with NZ though is it? For a start they're good and not corrupt .
If there was any doubt that the Tory praise for the NHS through the pandemic has just been for show (there wasn't for anyone paying attention), this should make even the staunchest Tory supporter feel a bit sick.
The budget is pretty grim for a lot of public services. Austerity full steam ahead it seems. |
Still, a lot of their mates and donors will be getting to 'level up'. | |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:26 - Mar 5 with 2008 views | JohnWarksTash |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 09:25 - Mar 5 by 26_Paz |
I support selling off libraries because demand for them has fallen off a cliff due to the invention of something called the internet. It’s just common sense. |
Typical comment from someone who has no need to worry about where the next meal is coming from. Libraries provide a vital services to families who are on the bread line. Books for the kids, internet to apply for jobs etc etc. |  | | |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:28 - Mar 5 with 2001 views | JohnWarksTash |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 09:59 - Mar 5 by BlueBadger |
A significant proportion of surgeons have spent the past year working outside of their speciality to meet covid demands on services. Another significant proportion have been working considerably longer hours in an effort to catch up with waiting lists or otherwise meet strained service demands.
Divide and rule has always been the Tory way. We pulled together as one, you can recognise us as one. [Post edited 5 Mar 2021 10:08]
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I love this as an AHP working in the largest NHS trust in the area!
"We pulled together as one, you can recognise us as one" | | | |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:29 - Mar 5 with 1996 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:17 - Mar 5 by BlueBadger |
Still, a lot of their mates and donors will be getting to 'level up'. |
Ah yes. Levelling up. An exercise where the item at position 251 on your prioritised list gets attention before the item at position 20.
Is that too inscrutable?
How about Richmondshire (the 251st most deprived area in the country - current MP, Sunak, Rishi - Conservative) being placed in a higher category of need than Salford (the 20th most deprived area of the country - current MP, Long-Bailey, Rebecca - Labour)? |  |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:30 - Mar 5 with 1995 views | BlueBadger |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:28 - Mar 5 by JohnWarksTash |
I love this as an AHP working in the largest NHS trust in the area!
"We pulled together as one, you can recognise us as one" |
Addies?
Also: big up the AHP's. I've spent a lot of my time training chest physios to take ABGS and titrate NIV pressures as part of an effort to help spread nursing workloads - they've been very......keen. [Post edited 5 Mar 2021 10:31]
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:31 - Mar 5 with 1986 views | JohnWarksTash |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:30 - Mar 5 by BlueBadger |
Addies?
Also: big up the AHP's. I've spent a lot of my time training chest physios to take ABGS and titrate NIV pressures as part of an effort to help spread nursing workloads - they've been very......keen. [Post edited 5 Mar 2021 10:31]
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:31 - Mar 5 with 1983 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 09:29 - Mar 5 by MattinLondon |
If you have happened to have been in a library within the last couple of years, then you’ll know that they are more than just books.
They are community hubs for adult learning, internet provider for people who can’t afford it as well as a provider for children/baby groups for parents.
If you close down libraries then you’ll also getting down community learning centres as well.
Maybe go on that internet thing and you’ll find this out. |
Paz doesn't visit libraries. They are for poor plebs who cannot afford their own internet connections.
Hence why he is so keen they are closed and the buildings sold off. |  |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:32 - Mar 5 with 1981 views | JohnWarksTash |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:30 - Mar 5 by BlueBadger |
Addies?
Also: big up the AHP's. I've spent a lot of my time training chest physios to take ABGS and titrate NIV pressures as part of an effort to help spread nursing workloads - they've been very......keen. [Post edited 5 Mar 2021 10:31]
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Used to work at Addies about 20 years ago though! Loved Cambridge but my building society wasn't so keen :) | | | |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:33 - Mar 5 with 1978 views | noggin |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 09:25 - Mar 5 by 26_Paz |
I support selling off libraries because demand for them has fallen off a cliff due to the invention of something called the internet. It’s just common sense. |
Do you write this stuff intentionally to troll? |  |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:35 - Mar 5 with 1967 views | noggin |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:31 - Mar 5 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Paz doesn't visit libraries. They are for poor plebs who cannot afford their own internet connections.
Hence why he is so keen they are closed and the buildings sold off. |
If you can't afford WIFI, don't get born. It's not difficult. | |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:43 - Mar 5 with 1940 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:33 - Mar 5 by noggin |
Do you write this stuff intentionally to troll? |
Market forces and all that.
Presumably now that pubs have been forced to close for so long the same market forces will be invoked to close many of them down too. And physical shops, no need for them, not even supermarkets - all purchases can be made via the internet. Newspapers, they can go. Museums? Largely fusty buildings in prime real estate locations - all exhibits can be more engagingly displayed with more information on the internet. Zoom classes? You betcha.
Blimey, I really think we're on to something here.
Oooh and how about sports stadia? No need for those now, we can all watch via the internet.
Think of the savings. It's just common sense. | |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:44 - Mar 5 with 1939 views | Swansea_Blue |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:17 - Mar 5 by BlueBadger |
Still, a lot of their mates and donors will be getting to 'level up'. |
They certainly will. And Tory councils will be getting more than their fair share of what little spending there is too.
Self-interest, cronyism and nepotism defines them. They're not capable of governing for all it seems. | |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:47 - Mar 5 with 1923 views | Swansea_Blue |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:31 - Mar 5 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Paz doesn't visit libraries. They are for poor plebs who cannot afford their own internet connections.
Hence why he is so keen they are closed and the buildings sold off. |
They contain a worryingly high concentration of information and facts too 
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:54 - Mar 5 with 1914 views | Edmundo |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 09:47 - Mar 5 by homer_123 |
Loads of happy clappers during Covid but who is willing to put their hand in their pocket to properly fund services likes the NHS?
I've said it before, the NHS along with Education and others should be ring fenced from political interference, a national debate needs to be had about how we properly fund these services, how much of our national budget is spent on them and how that money is obtained by government.
As an aside.....those supermarket workers who worked through the pandemic, who's businesses have made substantive profits during the last year.....are they going to see their wages increased? |
Make the internet giants pay their taxes, get half the money paid out by corrupt Hancock paid back and then we can start giving nurses, doctors, teachers and social workers a proper pay rise. And probably have enough left for 10 hospitals. |  |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 11:17 - Mar 5 with 1889 views | Darth_Koont |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 09:52 - Mar 5 by homer_123 |
I'd like to think so SB. |
Hasn’t that always been the majority view of the public? |  |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 11:21 - Mar 5 with 1874 views | jaykay |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 09:59 - Mar 5 by BlueBadger |
A significant proportion of surgeons have spent the past year working outside of their speciality to meet covid demands on services. Another significant proportion have been working considerably longer hours in an effort to catch up with waiting lists or otherwise meet strained service demands.
Divide and rule has always been the Tory way. We pulled together as one, you can recognise us as one. [Post edited 5 Mar 2021 10:08]
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he was only taking the the lead from sock puppet from up north |  |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 12:21 - Mar 5 with 1851 views | BlueBadger |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:43 - Mar 5 by You_Bloo_Right |
Market forces and all that.
Presumably now that pubs have been forced to close for so long the same market forces will be invoked to close many of them down too. And physical shops, no need for them, not even supermarkets - all purchases can be made via the internet. Newspapers, they can go. Museums? Largely fusty buildings in prime real estate locations - all exhibits can be more engagingly displayed with more information on the internet. Zoom classes? You betcha.
Blimey, I really think we're on to something here.
Oooh and how about sports stadia? No need for those now, we can all watch via the internet.
Think of the savings. It's just common sense. |
A Tory is someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
They only ever see money to be 'saved' and not the costs of increased illiteracy, jobseekers, etc, etc [Post edited 5 Mar 2021 12:35]
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 12:33 - Mar 5 with 1840 views | BlueBadger |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 10:33 - Mar 5 by noggin |
Do you write this stuff intentionally to troll? |
Noggers, it's not trolling if the only person looking angry and stupid in the thread is the 'troll'. | |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 12:39 - Mar 5 with 1820 views | leitrimblue |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 09:25 - Mar 5 by 26_Paz |
I support selling off libraries because demand for them has fallen off a cliff due to the invention of something called the internet. It’s just common sense. |
Still the spokesman for the working class then Paz? |  | | |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 12:40 - Mar 5 with 1818 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 08:53 - Mar 5 by You_Bloo_Right |
"Dreadful mismanagement or deliberate corruption?"
Either way not fit for office.
Doubtless someone will point out that they're trying their best. |
It doesn't matter which one it is, though, does it, because our First Past the Post system will disenfranchise millions and ensure that the Establishment Tory Party gets in again with a huge majority given to them by about 43% of the people who bothered to vote.
And that 43% will be delivered by muting the independence of BBC News, by newspapers telling lies about the opposition, spreading fear and confusion, or just making it seem like it is not worth voting anyway, and by running stories about Meg and Harry whenever the Government needs to bury a particularly inconvenient truth.
We really don't live in a democracy. We are ruled by consent. |  | | |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 12:46 - Mar 5 with 1805 views | Darth_Koont |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 12:40 - Mar 5 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It doesn't matter which one it is, though, does it, because our First Past the Post system will disenfranchise millions and ensure that the Establishment Tory Party gets in again with a huge majority given to them by about 43% of the people who bothered to vote.
And that 43% will be delivered by muting the independence of BBC News, by newspapers telling lies about the opposition, spreading fear and confusion, or just making it seem like it is not worth voting anyway, and by running stories about Meg and Harry whenever the Government needs to bury a particularly inconvenient truth.
We really don't live in a democracy. We are ruled by consent. |
Indeed. We look like a state and talk like a state but we’re a failed state by most metrics of modern democracy, transparency and justice.
It’s the British blind spot like the US have with their guns. Just as bad but arguably worse for society too. | |
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| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 12:58 - Mar 5 with 1772 views | Half_Idiot |
| "1% is all we can afford" for the NHS on 09:25 - Mar 5 by 26_Paz |
I support selling off libraries because demand for them has fallen off a cliff due to the invention of something called the internet. It’s just common sense. |
What an ignorant comment! Just shows how much "common sense" you have. |  | | |
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