Not sure about Cooks latest statement... 10:26 - Apr 16 with 3875 views | Marshalls_Mullet | ..I don't disagree with the sentiment, but the comments on Roberts' opinions are odd. If I was a player, I'm not sure how I would take that kind of criticism from a rookie coach who had a journeyman career. ...bring on the summer, the rest of this season will be painful. |  |
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Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 12:50 - Apr 16 with 1059 views | Churchman |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 10:45 - Apr 16 by jayessess | It's pretty astonishing from any football manager really. I don't think I've seen a manager go off like this before. Fairly unique circumstances allow for it, but still extraordinary. |
Me neither. But if ever a large crowd of players needed it, it’s our lot. Easy money, poor attitude, other people’s problem, might give it a go for a game or two, flip a coin to see who does the post match interview after the latest loss, mediocrity and hiding. Cook is having to do what’s been needed for many years. A proper clear out and a reset of what the club is and where it’s going is no bad thing. People in the building that want to be here, want to be the best they can be and take some responsibility. It goes beyond the first team. It may go horrifically wrong, but what’s to lose? We were dying anyway. I’m optimistic and it will will be interesting to see which of the current players are here in August and how they play. |  | |  |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 13:54 - Apr 16 with 1006 views | itfcjoe | Personally I don't like the style this is all being handled and the glee some are having with it - it's possible to do a clear out without the tone of what is going on here now for me. |  |
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Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:01 - Apr 16 with 997 views | itfcjoe |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 10:30 - Apr 16 by MrTown | Gary Roberts had a more successful career than any player in this squad. [Post edited 16 Apr 2021 10:30]
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Utter rubbish - he had 2 seasons with us in the Championship - then a bit part role for Wigan there and played 79 games out of the bottom 2 tiers (56 for us). CHambers, Sears and Skuse have played 1,100 games at that level between them, Judge has been n international and top end Championship player. Steven Ward.... Teddy Bishop has played more games in the 2nd tier than Gary Roberts... |  |
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Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:03 - Apr 16 with 984 views | crossyitfc |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 13:54 - Apr 16 by itfcjoe | Personally I don't like the style this is all being handled and the glee some are having with it - it's possible to do a clear out without the tone of what is going on here now for me. |
Agree Joe. |  | |  |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:06 - Apr 16 with 981 views | hype313 |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 13:54 - Apr 16 by itfcjoe | Personally I don't like the style this is all being handled and the glee some are having with it - it's possible to do a clear out without the tone of what is going on here now for me. |
Yeah it does seem to be playing to the masses, no doubt it needed doing, maybe not at the level as it has been. The problem with new managers coming in and I include Hurst and Lambert in this, is that they all seem to want to make big, emotional, impactful statements to get the fans onside at the start. Personally, I'd just like to see someone get on with the job in a mild mannered way, for us to then see signs of improvement. I'm not big on free beer or hyperbolic statements, just show some enthusiasm, play nice football and win a few games, hardly asking for the moon on a stick. |  |
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Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:13 - Apr 16 with 971 views | jayessess |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 13:54 - Apr 16 by itfcjoe | Personally I don't like the style this is all being handled and the glee some are having with it - it's possible to do a clear out without the tone of what is going on here now for me. |
Definite sadistic streak in most football fans. Desperate for punishment and humiliation to be doled out. [Post edited 16 Apr 2021 14:16]
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Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:23 - Apr 16 with 959 views | PhilTWTD |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 13:54 - Apr 16 by itfcjoe | Personally I don't like the style this is all being handled and the glee some are having with it - it's possible to do a clear out without the tone of what is going on here now for me. |
I'm guessing there may be an element of trying to get a reaction from them. He's tried everything else. |  | |  |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:23 - Apr 16 with 956 views | itfcjoe |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:06 - Apr 16 by hype313 | Yeah it does seem to be playing to the masses, no doubt it needed doing, maybe not at the level as it has been. The problem with new managers coming in and I include Hurst and Lambert in this, is that they all seem to want to make big, emotional, impactful statements to get the fans onside at the start. Personally, I'd just like to see someone get on with the job in a mild mannered way, for us to then see signs of improvement. I'm not big on free beer or hyperbolic statements, just show some enthusiasm, play nice football and win a few games, hardly asking for the moon on a stick. |
Look at when Mick came in, he was very respectful to everyone, including the outgoing manager, dirty linen wasn't aired in public - he just got on with the job and got rid of the bad apples quickly and quietly (Bullard, Chopra, Taylor, etc) Cook may be defensive because of his poor start on the pitch, but feels like with this abrasive manner you make yourself a bigger target - all these players can be released anyway without saying how terrible they all are. |  |
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Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:24 - Apr 16 with 955 views | hype313 |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:23 - Apr 16 by PhilTWTD | I'm guessing there may be an element of trying to get a reaction from them. He's tried everything else. |
Funny way about doing it by saying they'll all be off in 6 weeks! |  |
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Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:26 - Apr 16 with 949 views | PhilTWTD |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:24 - Apr 16 by hype313 | Funny way about doing it by saying they'll all be off in 6 weeks! |
I think if someone said the sort of thing he said about me I'd be determined to show I've got a bit more about myself than is being suggested. |  | |  |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:29 - Apr 16 with 931 views | hype313 |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:26 - Apr 16 by PhilTWTD | I think if someone said the sort of thing he said about me I'd be determined to show I've got a bit more about myself than is being suggested. |
To be fair Phil, that's an attribute you have that I suspect a large majority of our squad don't have, it just seems that since Lambert left and the new ownership took place, there seems to be an air of redundancy/given up mentality in the players attitudes. If that's the case, then it's probably best a number of them moved on as these new owners aren't going to be messing around giving people free rides like the past 14 years. |  |
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Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:34 - Apr 16 with 920 views | PhilTWTD |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:29 - Apr 16 by hype313 | To be fair Phil, that's an attribute you have that I suspect a large majority of our squad don't have, it just seems that since Lambert left and the new ownership took place, there seems to be an air of redundancy/given up mentality in the players attitudes. If that's the case, then it's probably best a number of them moved on as these new owners aren't going to be messing around giving people free rides like the past 14 years. |
I don't disagree, but I'm sure there's some element of PC trying to get some fight out of them. |  | |  |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:38 - Apr 16 with 912 views | itfcjoe |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:23 - Apr 16 by PhilTWTD | I'm guessing there may be an element of trying to get a reaction from them. He's tried everything else. |
Be interesting to see what the team is tomorrow, I know a few who have travelled so it's not exactly the youth team being sent out |  |
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Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:38 - Apr 16 with 910 views | vanmunt |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 12:20 - Apr 16 by SE1blue | Anyone else worried that certain players might raise their game and fool their way into a new contract? <cough> Frederick Sears <cough> I am 100% with Cook in what needed to be said and it’s been a very long time coming for some of our players. I hope it happens behind closed doors now and he does do it with class as promised. |
Frederick Sears will be fighting off offers from all the championship clubs, as he said he is way too good for league 1. |  | |  |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:41 - Apr 16 with 901 views | PhilTWTD |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:38 - Apr 16 by itfcjoe | Be interesting to see what the team is tomorrow, I know a few who have travelled so it's not exactly the youth team being sent out |
I didn't think that he could take that approach as it wouldn't do the youngsters much good to be on the end of a hammering. I'm guessing a return to 4-2-3-1 as his other systems haven't worked, so he'll probably go back to his tried and trusted, and a freshening of the team from the other senior players available. Am guessing Skusey might be back. |  | |  |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 16:14 - Apr 16 with 815 views | patrickswell |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 10:40 - Apr 16 by monty_radio | Cook has brought a different tone into the club. Granted it would wear thin without eventual improvement, but, as things stand, it's a note that is being picked up by a coach whom Cook himself wanted. It's something we've not heard before really (actually though not so different from Hurst who lacked the charm or the track record to pull it off). Even Mick kept the tent door firmly zipped up. As I say, it's not a tack you can repeat endlessly without results, but given the large comfort blanket that extended over Playford Rd (latterly singed at the edges!) it's something that neglected fans can sit up and take notice of feeling that at last we have people who care as much as we do. |
The other big difference is that Hurst and Doig were sniping at a squad which had finished in the top half of the Championship in 4 of the previous 5 seasons. Cook and Roberts are sniping at the remnants of that plus Hurst and Lambert’s purchases which have conspired to relegate us and potentially condemn us to a 2nd successive double-digit placing in the third tier. |  | |  |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 16:48 - Apr 16 with 786 views | patrickswell |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:23 - Apr 16 by itfcjoe | Look at when Mick came in, he was very respectful to everyone, including the outgoing manager, dirty linen wasn't aired in public - he just got on with the job and got rid of the bad apples quickly and quietly (Bullard, Chopra, Taylor, etc) Cook may be defensive because of his poor start on the pitch, but feels like with this abrasive manner you make yourself a bigger target - all these players can be released anyway without saying how terrible they all are. |
The thing is Cook came in with lots of positivity and talking about going for promotion. In temperament he seems the complete opposite of Hurst and Lambert - managers who you have told us plenty of stories about how they inhibited the players - and those self same players have listened to that optimism, listened to that encouragement, listened to those promotion targets and in the way they have gone about things, have basically told Cook to go fkkk himself. Cook won’t have seen anything like it, because we haven’t seen anything like it - I’ve never seen an Ipswich squad that looks to be so out of love with football. I can only conclude that they feel that regardless of the incoming investment and new faces, new ideas that are arriving, the simple act of being “Ipswich Town” has damaged them so badly they have nothing left to contribute, so they are not going to try. |  | |  |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 16:49 - Apr 16 with 789 views | phillev231069 |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 14:23 - Apr 16 by itfcjoe | Look at when Mick came in, he was very respectful to everyone, including the outgoing manager, dirty linen wasn't aired in public - he just got on with the job and got rid of the bad apples quickly and quietly (Bullard, Chopra, Taylor, etc) Cook may be defensive because of his poor start on the pitch, but feels like with this abrasive manner you make yourself a bigger target - all these players can be released anyway without saying how terrible they all are. |
If you turned up for work and were absolute crap over a number of weeks/months where would you be? Blooody molly coddled footballer's on a massive wage compared to Joe Public need a wake up call and PC has given them one! |  | |  |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 17:17 - Apr 16 with 768 views | Hipsterectomy | I assumed this was Gary Robert's opinion based on the players he played with at Ipswich, rather than his general views on the squad |  |
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Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 18:42 - Apr 16 with 725 views | TieDyedIn95 |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 10:30 - Apr 16 by pointofblue | There was one line in the interview which I expected to hear early on... “What we’re saying to our lads now is ‘someone please step up to the plate, anyone, whoever wants to step up to the plate to be here and stay with us in the future, for years or months or days that we’re here’. Those who are picked are now fighting for their futures - that should have been obvious from the start but Cook has at least come out and said it. |
That is the best thing I have heard from an Ipswich manager since Mick was here, if not ever. So brutal, but he can't lie can he? The players are stealing a living and they are finished here. Most are finished in football in any meaningful way, I doubt many of them will get a crack at the Championship again, they had an opportunity to work and fight for points over the last few weeks but reverted to walking football. They couldn't care less. |  |
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Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 19:19 - Apr 16 with 698 views | AlanG296 |
Not sure about Cooks latest statement... on 17:17 - Apr 16 by Hipsterectomy | I assumed this was Gary Robert's opinion based on the players he played with at Ipswich, rather than his general views on the squad |
Gary finished his playing career at Accrington so knows the sort of money they pay to achieve a similar league position to us, and rightly, on the basis that we have a far greater playing budget than Accrington, would expect to see a better quality of player and performance here. Every right to be disappointed. |  | |  |
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