| New Signings... 14:19 - May 21 with 4471 views | OriginalMarkyP |
The thing is, new signings or lack of will be dictated by just how excited players are at joining Ipswich in League one, with a manager who hasn't got his main coach. Who threw a whole team under the bus. And sadly, a bunch of seasoned pros aren't quite going to be as excited about the idea of Paul Cook as Ipswich manager as we are.
They have options. Any decent player whose contract is up in the current climate is going to have their pick of clubs at a certain level. We just don't have the 'draw' some people seem to think we do.
Cooks approach only works if he can sign the players he wants. First two he's gone for, it appears, have turned him down flat. Let's hope he can do better.
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| New Signings... on 15:18 - May 21 with 1322 views | StokieBlue |
| New Signings... on 15:17 - May 21 by Garv |
'First two he's gone for, it appears, have turned him down flat.'
...That we know of. [Post edited 21 May 2021 15:20]
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Who is the second?
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| New Signings... on 15:18 - May 21 with 1317 views | Keno |
| New Signings... on 15:07 - May 21 by chrismakin |
I'm talking in general. We have been linked with alot of players already. There will no doubt be 2 or 3 more very soon of players apparently turning us down etc..
A bit of news in between that would go along way. |
oh, its gone up to 3 now!!!
any advance on 3?? |  |
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| New Signings... on 15:19 - May 21 with 1311 views | chrismakin |
| New Signings... on 15:17 - May 21 by StokieBlue |
Having two extreme positions doesn't equal a balanced view, it's not cumulative.
Everyone needs to relax. It's May.
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I agree
But go have a look at twitter and others. Youd think it was july. |  |
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| New Signings... on 15:20 - May 21 with 1304 views | Coastalblue |
Mother of God, it's not even close to the end of May yet, I suspect barely anybody we are looking at is out of contract yet if they're going to be and if they're any good then they will have a number of options to weigh up.
If we get to August with a succession of players having turned us down and still have a paper thin squad then perhaps we can start worrying but doing so before the current season even finishes?
In terms of 'draw', we were a big club and a big 'draw' at this level before any takeover stuff happened, that's only increased since. We might not be stealing players from under the noses of promotion chasing Championship clubs but we really genuinely are a very attractive option for the best players in Division 3. |  |
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| New Signings... on 15:21 - May 21 with 1295 views | Keno |
| New Signings... on 15:18 - May 21 by StokieBlue |
Who is the second?
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Lionel Messi? | |
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| New Signings... on 15:21 - May 21 with 1293 views | Garv |
| New Signings... on 15:18 - May 21 by StokieBlue |
Who is the second?
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No idea, I was quoting the OP (probably wasn't clear). |  |
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| New Signings... on 15:22 - May 21 with 1283 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| New Signings... on 15:07 - May 21 by SpruceMoose |
You keep saying you fully trust PC, but you keep having these mini meltdowns. |
I see you point. But I still feel there is a prevailing attitude on here that Paul Cook is completely above criticism. And that isn't healthy. He's done a lot of things some fans don't think he's got right. They can still support the bigger picture of change. But how he achieves or tries to achieve that change is fair game to question. That is not flouncing or bed-wetting. Its judging events as they appear to be and questioning them when you don't think the decision or outcome is the right one. That's all. | |
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| New Signings... on 15:22 - May 21 with 1284 views | StokieBlue |
| New Signings... on 15:19 - May 21 by chrismakin |
I agree
But go have a look at twitter and others. Youd think it was july. |
This isn't Twitter though. I did look earlier and someone was calling out Phil for getting this "wrong" and then I looked on their profile and a few posts down was some nonsense about the media feeding us lies about C19 variants.
Given this sample size of one and the clear intellectual giant that he is, who cares what they say on there?
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| New Signings... on 15:24 - May 21 with 1260 views | chrismakin |
| New Signings... on 15:22 - May 21 by StokieBlue |
This isn't Twitter though. I did look earlier and someone was calling out Phil for getting this "wrong" and then I looked on their profile and a few posts down was some nonsense about the media feeding us lies about C19 variants.
Given this sample size of one and the clear intellectual giant that he is, who cares what they say on there?
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Fair point | |
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| New Signings... on 15:24 - May 21 with 1263 views | tractorboy1978 |
| New Signings... on 15:22 - May 21 by OriginalMarkyP |
I see you point. But I still feel there is a prevailing attitude on here that Paul Cook is completely above criticism. And that isn't healthy. He's done a lot of things some fans don't think he's got right. They can still support the bigger picture of change. But how he achieves or tries to achieve that change is fair game to question. That is not flouncing or bed-wetting. Its judging events as they appear to be and questioning them when you don't think the decision or outcome is the right one. That's all. |
Judging the number of signings on 21st May very much is flouncing. |  | | |
| New Signings... on 15:24 - May 21 with 1262 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| New Signings... on 14:23 - May 21 by J2BLUE |
Think we need to be realistic and prepare ourselves for this "recruit like a Championship club" idea not to work too well. It's going to be incremental. Look at Man City (no i'm not comparing us to them). When they got mega money they didn't go out and buy the world's best players. They started off buying very good players then when they were at the next level they upgraded. Some of the names people are throwing out there are ridiculous.
We should be aiming to sign the cream of league one to go up. Preferably younger players who might step up. Then if we go up we can see who we can upgrade. |
We do also seem to have collectively completely forgotten that football is also played in other countries, sometimes quite well too. There might be one or two players out there somewhere. | | | |
| New Signings... on 15:26 - May 21 with 1256 views | Coastalblue |
| New Signings... on 15:22 - May 21 by OriginalMarkyP |
I see you point. But I still feel there is a prevailing attitude on here that Paul Cook is completely above criticism. And that isn't healthy. He's done a lot of things some fans don't think he's got right. They can still support the bigger picture of change. But how he achieves or tries to achieve that change is fair game to question. That is not flouncing or bed-wetting. Its judging events as they appear to be and questioning them when you don't think the decision or outcome is the right one. That's all. |
I think Cook has had a lot of criticism on here in the last couple of months, possibly more than might be expected too? | |
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| New Signings... on 15:33 - May 21 with 1228 views | chrismakin |
| New Signings... on 15:26 - May 21 by Coastalblue |
I think Cook has had a lot of criticism on here in the last couple of months, possibly more than might be expected too? |
If Lambert came in after Mick I think PC would have more support.
Because we went through Hurst. I think many see PC as another Hurst | |
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| New Signings... on 15:37 - May 21 with 1211 views | Coastalblue |
| New Signings... on 15:33 - May 21 by chrismakin |
If Lambert came in after Mick I think PC would have more support.
Because we went through Hurst. I think many see PC as another Hurst |
To be fair I think there are shades of Hurst there in terms of what he has done and said but as I've said before and as you've alluded to there, that makes people nervous because of what happened before.
PC has a lot to prove in my book, he's chosen to do it the hard way and the way that's going to put pressure on himself but hopefully he's proven right ultimately. | |
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| New Signings... on 15:43 - May 21 with 1180 views | istanblue |
I'm not too worried atm. Losing out to Championship clubs is entirely understandable. It's when we lose out to other League 1 clubs (like we have done in recent seasons) that it becomes a big concern. |  | | |
| New Signings... on 15:44 - May 21 with 1179 views | chrismakin |
| New Signings... on 15:37 - May 21 by Coastalblue |
To be fair I think there are shades of Hurst there in terms of what he has done and said but as I've said before and as you've alluded to there, that makes people nervous because of what happened before.
PC has a lot to prove in my book, he's chosen to do it the hard way and the way that's going to put pressure on himself but hopefully he's proven right ultimately. |
Yep and I appreciate that and that's the point of my earlier reply. A bit of early good news is needed for that set of fans who have lost trust | |
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| New Signings... on 15:56 - May 21 with 1151 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| New Signings... on 15:10 - May 21 by chrismakin |
But it's you seeing it as a meltdown. I didnt start the thread I just replied to it. I'm not personally fussed as I think our business will be done in bulk mid june like Paul's previous jobs.
But I'm well aware of peoples needs to see movement especially as we will soon start to see where our current squad move onto. That's not me having a meltdown just appreciation some peoples needs for some positive action. |
Didnt you say we desperately need some good news? [Post edited 21 May 2021 15:57]
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| New Signings... on 16:01 - May 21 with 1137 views | chrismakin |
| New Signings... on 15:56 - May 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Didnt you say we desperately need some good news? [Post edited 21 May 2021 15:57]
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For specific reasons yeah. Theres alot of untrust out there. I think a bit of good news would go a long way to start rebuilding that trust | |
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| New Signings... on 16:08 - May 21 with 1102 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| New Signings... on 15:18 - May 21 by StokieBlue |
Who is the second?
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Jordan Rhodes. Gone to Huddersfield. | |
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| New Signings... on 16:11 - May 21 with 1094 views | SpruceMoose |
| New Signings... on 16:08 - May 21 by OriginalMarkyP |
Jordan Rhodes. Gone to Huddersfield. |
Good. We already have plenty of crap strikers. |  |
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| New Signings... on 16:13 - May 21 with 1086 views | StokieBlue |
| New Signings... on 16:08 - May 21 by OriginalMarkyP |
Jordan Rhodes. Gone to Huddersfield. |
Not seen any evidence that we made any offers to him or that he turned us down.
Do you have some evidence or are you citing speculation as fact?
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| New Signings... on 16:19 - May 21 with 1059 views | FreoTown |
The BBC shows 13 completed transfers across the entire football league at the moment.
92 clubs, 13 transfers. You do the math. We are in no way falling behind.
Echoing the thoughts of the more sensible posters, can we all chill out please, 20/21 isn't even over yet!
Edit: This wasn't particularly aimed at the OP, more anyone saying we desperately need good news. It's been 12 days since we closed the season out with a 3-1 win, 12 days! [Post edited 21 May 2021 16:23]
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| New Signings... on 16:23 - May 21 with 1051 views | pointofblue |
| New Signings... on 16:19 - May 21 by FreoTown |
The BBC shows 13 completed transfers across the entire football league at the moment.
92 clubs, 13 transfers. You do the math. We are in no way falling behind.
Echoing the thoughts of the more sensible posters, can we all chill out please, 20/21 isn't even over yet!
Edit: This wasn't particularly aimed at the OP, more anyone saying we desperately need good news. It's been 12 days since we closed the season out with a 3-1 win, 12 days! [Post edited 21 May 2021 16:23]
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Guess the Bradley news is just a bit of a kick the you know what’s - in one breath it looks like we might be able to beat a Championship team to a signing and then normal service is resumed.
It’s that saying again - it’s the hope that’s getting me. | |
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| New Signings... on 16:27 - May 21 with 1042 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| New Signings... on 16:01 - May 21 by chrismakin |
For specific reasons yeah. Theres alot of untrust out there. I think a bit of good news would go a long way to start rebuilding that trust |
Don't worry about the flouncers, it's May.
We've had the takeover that everyone begged for.
We've got a sponsorship deal with one of the most high profile music stars in the world.
The season has ended.
It's all good. | |
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| New Signings... on 16:28 - May 21 with 1034 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| New Signings... on 16:11 - May 21 by SpruceMoose |
Good. We already have plenty of crap strikers. |
As I said on the relevant thread, I'm not bothered about Rhodes coming. I'm not particuarly surprised we're not snapping up Championship players either. My point is that Cook has done a lot of nice talking so far and not much else. He's set his stall out and some people on here think they're going to be watching the Harlem Globetrotters of lower league football next season. We're not.
Also plenty of time, agreed. But that is ticking. How many times in the past have we got to pre-season and half the squad are either injured or not ready or we've had a manager saying he'd have liked to bring in more players but couldn't? We have a history of missing out on signings.
The truth is there is time, but not as much as some people think. If your rebuilding a squad you want to get a lot if not the majority of you buisness done early.
There's going to a lot of clubs out there chasing exactly the same players as we are. The quicker we sign who we need the more likely we are to get what we want, and not be scrabbing around in a months time for 2nd or even 3rd choices.
So whether we as fans think they are the 'right' players for the club.
So far Paul Cook...
...has tried to sign Rhodes. And missed out.
...has tried to sign Bradley. And missed out.
...has tried to re-sign Edwards. And so far...no signature.
He has tried to sign all 3 therefore these are players he thinks he needs. No matter what we think of them. Therefore he is not 'currently' achieving anything. | |
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