| So Dobra 13:41 - May 29 with 22195 views | chrismakin |
The first to pass the PC who wants to stay test.
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| So Dobra on 08:52 - May 30 with 2587 views | gtsb1966 |
| So Dobra on 04:00 - May 30 by SpruceMoose |
Well I have no idea what's going on here. I do know this though. There's no way a well known and well respected poster is going risk their entire reputation by making up and spreading rumours about what's going on in the club. Joe isn't some anonymous troll. There's nothing to gain by doing so, and everything to lose.
I don't know why Cook would be doing what's claimed, but I reckon Joe knows what he knows, and he's reporting what he genuinely believes. |
"but I reckon Joe knows".... Reckon isn't fact is it. I "reckon" it's rubbish. |  | | |
| So Dobra on 09:36 - May 30 with 2523 views | Plums |
| So Dobra on 08:13 - May 30 by BlueBlueBluex2 |
My contacts are clearly not the same as Joes as I have not heard that message but I can substantiate that PC is an absolute 'Monster' in the changing rooms, not like 'anything they have had before' and the guys I know socially (just 2) are not fans of his in any way shape or form.
Now this could be a generic "I don't like my boss" kinda scenario that young men with money on the hip would find themselves in or an actual "hold on, I actually do not like this chap" - From what I know, its not the latter. |
I’ve just looked back at one of the threads when we were in the market for a new manager and I’d posted this...
I’ve seen a couple of clips of Cook in the Man City documentary recently and it didn’t sit well with me. Ranting and raving at officials, he looked anything but a calm head. Perhaps it was just a couple of off days and the pressure of playing City on big occasions. |  |
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| So Dobra on 09:45 - May 30 with 2496 views | bobbyramsey |
| So Dobra on 08:41 - May 30 by Radlett_blue |
If it's true that Cook pretty much wants rid of all Town's contracted players, I find it hard to believe they all have bad attitudes. Has any manager had success after effectively binning the entire squad? |
That would depend on the quality of the squad that's being "binned." and the quality of the replacements.....obvs. [Post edited 30 May 2021 9:47]
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| So Dobra on 09:50 - May 30 with 2473 views | Beckets |
| So Dobra on 09:36 - May 30 by Plums |
I’ve just looked back at one of the threads when we were in the market for a new manager and I’d posted this...
I’ve seen a couple of clips of Cook in the Man City documentary recently and it didn’t sit well with me. Ranting and raving at officials, he looked anything but a calm head. Perhaps it was just a couple of off days and the pressure of playing City on big occasions. |
I wonder if the owners will go after Appleton again at some stage if Lincoln lose today? |  | | |
| So Dobra on 10:44 - May 30 with 2411 views | itfcjoe |
| So Dobra on 09:50 - May 30 by Beckets |
I wonder if the owners will go after Appleton again at some stage if Lincoln lose today? |
It certainly wouldn’t be the biggest surprise if he ends up here at some point |  |
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| So Dobra on 11:01 - May 30 with 2362 views | ParisBlue |
| So Dobra on 10:44 - May 30 by itfcjoe |
It certainly wouldn’t be the biggest surprise if he ends up here at some point |
I know the new owners have said that Cook was their choice as well but is there any evidence for that? They're hardly going to say publicly that the new man isn't for them.
Cook is adamant in getting rid of the squad. It's a risky game. If after 10 games we're mid-table the pressure for change will be huge. Appleton seems a better fit |  |
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| So Dobra on 11:11 - May 30 with 2333 views | leitrimblue |
| So Dobra on 07:57 - May 30 by RedX |
Tearing into a manager based on rumour and guesswork. Some beauties on here.
Like a bunch of teenage girls. |
Incredible levels of bed wetting. Can only hope some people have a good look at themselves after Cook wins promotion |  | | |
| So Dobra on 11:18 - May 30 with 2318 views | pointofblue |
| So Dobra on 07:57 - May 30 by RedX |
Tearing into a manager based on rumour and guesswork. Some beauties on here.
Like a bunch of teenage girls. |
The major concerns are:
1) He took a squad on from Paul Lambert, an appalling manager, and somehow managed to make us worse
2) He happily made sure the finger was pointed squarely the playing squad to absolve himself of any blame
We don’t need anyone in the know or with contacts to tell us that as it happened in front of our very eyes. He’ll have the rest of the summer but I can’t believe, for starters, how many contract extensions were taken up considering how he openly felt about the players. Nor can I believe that Edwards is getting offered a contract whilst the likes of Woolfenden, Dozzell and Dobra are seemingly being binned.
This isn’t flouncing; he’ll get the summer and we’ll see where we are in August. But this has a feel of Lambert mark II about it all at the moment though he didn’t have the opportunity to completely rebuild. Let’s hope that does work in our favour. |  |
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| So Dobra on 11:25 - May 30 with 2294 views | Beckets |
| So Dobra on 11:01 - May 30 by ParisBlue |
I know the new owners have said that Cook was their choice as well but is there any evidence for that? They're hardly going to say publicly that the new man isn't for them.
Cook is adamant in getting rid of the squad. It's a risky game. If after 10 games we're mid-table the pressure for change will be huge. Appleton seems a better fit |
At Oxford Ashton sacked Gary Waddock after a handful of games and appointed Michael Appleton. O’Leary was involved at Oxford at that time too. I think their paths crossed at West Brom too. I don’t believe for a minute Cook was their first choice. | | | |
| So Dobra on 11:40 - May 30 with 2264 views | itfcjoe |
| So Dobra on 11:01 - May 30 by ParisBlue |
I know the new owners have said that Cook was their choice as well but is there any evidence for that? They're hardly going to say publicly that the new man isn't for them.
Cook is adamant in getting rid of the squad. It's a risky game. If after 10 games we're mid-table the pressure for change will be huge. Appleton seems a better fit |
One of the key points of interest is how the relationship between Ashton and Cook plays out. Ashton is the absolute boss here and the American’s guy to run it.....he interviewed Cook for Bristol City, be fascinated to know why Cook didn’t get that job.
Cook, was obviously a top candidate and appointment for any league one side, so no reason to think he wouldn’t be very high up their list | |
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| So Dobra on 11:43 - May 30 with 2246 views | chrismakin |
| So Dobra on 11:40 - May 30 by itfcjoe |
One of the key points of interest is how the relationship between Ashton and Cook plays out. Ashton is the absolute boss here and the American’s guy to run it.....he interviewed Cook for Bristol City, be fascinated to know why Cook didn’t get that job.
Cook, was obviously a top candidate and appointment for any league one side, so no reason to think he wouldn’t be very high up their list |
Cook was eyeing up the birmingham job at the time, and It was understood PC was offerered only a 6 month deal with Bristol. | |
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| So Dobra on 11:44 - May 30 with 2240 views | gordon |
| So Dobra on 11:25 - May 30 by Beckets |
At Oxford Ashton sacked Gary Waddock after a handful of games and appointed Michael Appleton. O’Leary was involved at Oxford at that time too. I think their paths crossed at West Brom too. I don’t believe for a minute Cook was their first choice. |
I'm looking forward to Appleton putting Cook's whole squad on the transfer list in October with the Town sitting in 14th place, and TWTD awash with posts about how 'these players have been letting the club down since 2014, it's about time someone came in and sorted them out.' |  | | |
| So Dobra on 11:53 - May 30 with 2207 views | itfcjoe |
| So Dobra on 11:25 - May 30 by Beckets |
At Oxford Ashton sacked Gary Waddock after a handful of games and appointed Michael Appleton. O’Leary was involved at Oxford at that time too. I think their paths crossed at West Brom too. I don’t believe for a minute Cook was their first choice. |
Phil has commented a few times that Appleton was their man, but he’s recently signed a 5 year deal and they could easily be in the Championship by the end of the day. It’s interesting times for sure | |
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| So Dobra on 12:02 - May 30 with 2190 views | abracaDOBRA_ |
I'm sure Joe isn't lying, he's a reputable guy who clearly knows things. But all this follow up speculation feels unnecessary
"Has Dobra got an attitude problem, is Cook a massive kn*b"
We don't know everything that happens behind closed doors and this is exactly how rumours start
Before you know it someone will tweet that Dobra and Cook have had a fist fight |  | | |
| So Dobra on 12:06 - May 30 with 2177 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| So Dobra on 19:50 - May 29 by gordon |
Think it's more to do with the fact that he failed pretty badly towards the end of last season, coupled with all the big-shots coming in (Ashton etc.), and so he's felt a bit vulnerable / insecure about his position. The obvious response to that is to pass as much blame on to the players as possible, to strengthen his own position within the club.
Presumably the demanding new owners have asked him to explain the poor end to the season, and what is he going to say? I wasn't up to it?
At the end of the day, if we let Dobra go for £200,000, and then two years Dobra is sold for £10 million, either Cook will have brought success to ITFC by then and we'll be in the championship and won't care, or he'll have been long out the door, so either way it won't really come back on him. [Post edited 29 May 2021 19:51]
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There's a difference between blaming the players and refusing them entry to training facilities. It sounds petty, spiteful and doesn't make any sense. Cook doesn't need to do that to protect his own position. |  |
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| So Dobra on 12:12 - May 30 with 2161 views | itfcjoe |
| So Dobra on 11:43 - May 30 by chrismakin |
Cook was eyeing up the birmingham job at the time, and It was understood PC was offerered only a 6 month deal with Bristol. |
Not in the summer it wasn’t | |
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| So Dobra on 12:13 - May 30 with 2159 views | chrismakin |
| So Dobra on 12:06 - May 30 by The_Flashing_Smile |
There's a difference between blaming the players and refusing them entry to training facilities. It sounds petty, spiteful and doesn't make any sense. Cook doesn't need to do that to protect his own position. |
IF, IF it happened, what on earth did dobra do, to go from the below to this in the space of 2 weeks
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| So Dobra on 12:16 - May 30 with 2127 views | chrismakin |
| So Dobra on 12:12 - May 30 by itfcjoe |
Not in the summer it wasn’t |
no, correct that was cardiff. sorry forgot which one was the short term one.
Must admit, i've always wandered how the BC one didn't happen, I did wonder if it was the recruitment process of Ashston and that is still something i'm still not sure PC will like, I think he even said he was still on the fence about that sort of thing a few months ago? | |
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| So Dobra on 12:18 - May 30 with 2123 views | itfcjoe |
| So Dobra on 12:16 - May 30 by chrismakin |
no, correct that was cardiff. sorry forgot which one was the short term one.
Must admit, i've always wandered how the BC one didn't happen, I did wonder if it was the recruitment process of Ashston and that is still something i'm still not sure PC will like, I think he even said he was still on the fence about that sort of thing a few months ago? |
I think at some point Cook will be ruthlessly sacked by Ashton and that may be why he is so aggressively doing everything on his terms and so quickly. As fans we just have to hope that is when we are in Chanpionship | |
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| So Dobra on 12:24 - May 30 with 2089 views | bobbyramsey |
| So Dobra on 19:50 - May 29 by gordon |
Think it's more to do with the fact that he failed pretty badly towards the end of last season, coupled with all the big-shots coming in (Ashton etc.), and so he's felt a bit vulnerable / insecure about his position. The obvious response to that is to pass as much blame on to the players as possible, to strengthen his own position within the club.
Presumably the demanding new owners have asked him to explain the poor end to the season, and what is he going to say? I wasn't up to it?
At the end of the day, if we let Dobra go for £200,000, and then two years Dobra is sold for £10 million, either Cook will have brought success to ITFC by then and we'll be in the championship and won't care, or he'll have been long out the door, so either way it won't really come back on him. [Post edited 29 May 2021 19:51]
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"coupled with all the big-shots coming in (Ashton etc.), and so he's felt a bit vulnerable / insecure about his position. The obvious response to that is to pass as much blame on to the players as possible, to strengthen his own position within the club."
Feck me, we're all psychologists now..............
As if crystal balls, fortune tellers and inside info wasn't enough..... | | | |
| So Dobra on 12:26 - May 30 with 2084 views | chrismakin |
| So Dobra on 12:18 - May 30 by itfcjoe |
I think at some point Cook will be ruthlessly sacked by Ashton and that may be why he is so aggressively doing everything on his terms and so quickly. As fans we just have to hope that is when we are in Chanpionship |
Wouldn't surpise me, imagine thinking you basically have 6 months to be in that top 2, I see any less come xmas and it's curtains. With a side who over 16 games showed anything but being good enough to do it (whether we agree or disagree about his own part in this). Im not surprised. | |
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| So Dobra on 12:31 - May 30 with 2060 views | WD19 |
| So Dobra on 11:01 - May 30 by ParisBlue |
I know the new owners have said that Cook was their choice as well but is there any evidence for that? They're hardly going to say publicly that the new man isn't for them.
Cook is adamant in getting rid of the squad. It's a risky game. If after 10 games we're mid-table the pressure for change will be huge. Appleton seems a better fit |
Personally I think the new owners have (indirectly) forced Cooks hand.
He knows he needs to make progress quickly, so he has decided he needs to ‘go big, or go home’. Somewhere along the line he switched from jovial cheerleader to a ‘demolition man’ role where he certainly isn’t going to die wondering. |  | | |
| So Dobra on 12:37 - May 30 with 2040 views | itfcjoe |
| So Dobra on 12:31 - May 30 by WD19 |
Personally I think the new owners have (indirectly) forced Cooks hand.
He knows he needs to make progress quickly, so he has decided he needs to ‘go big, or go home’. Somewhere along the line he switched from jovial cheerleader to a ‘demolition man’ role where he certainly isn’t going to die wondering. |
It feels as though our last couple of managers have failed but not done so on their own terms, don’t think Cook will be able to be accused of that - regardless of the short term view he may be taken and if that is the right thing for the club as a whole.
Mad that even Evans managed to balls up this transition by appointing someone when he was about to sell! | |
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| So Dobra on 12:40 - May 30 with 2025 views | pointofblue |
| So Dobra on 12:18 - May 30 by itfcjoe |
I think at some point Cook will be ruthlessly sacked by Ashton and that may be why he is so aggressively doing everything on his terms and so quickly. As fans we just have to hope that is when we are in Chanpionship |
That’s all we need though - trigger pulled and another new man wanting to build his own squad. If they don’t want him they need to get rid now. If they’re keeping him on board they need to give him a proper chance. [Post edited 30 May 2021 12:44]
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| So Dobra on 12:41 - May 30 with 2013 views | chrismakin |
| So Dobra on 12:37 - May 30 by itfcjoe |
It feels as though our last couple of managers have failed but not done so on their own terms, don’t think Cook will be able to be accused of that - regardless of the short term view he may be taken and if that is the right thing for the club as a whole.
Mad that even Evans managed to balls up this transition by appointing someone when he was about to sell! |
In hindsight, should have been Gill/Dyer etc until summer
Then new owners bring in their man, 1st season transition season, 2nd season progress
Problem is PC hasn't had the promoising end of season he would have wanted, the daggers are out and what should have been a transitional season under new owers, has turned into a desperate attempt to rise as fast as possible. | |
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