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So Dobra 13:41 - May 29 with 22198 viewschrismakin

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So Dobra on 13:17 - Jun 1 with 3190 viewswkj

So Dobra on 17:26 - May 29 by chrismakin

Where have I believed every transfer rumour?

I'm accepted negatives on Cook. Doesnt mean I have to believe what joe put because its joe. As I said in the other thread.. sources are sources. Some are right some are wrong.


You imply that Joe is making it up, yet you share every feckin' tweet going from powderpuff twitter sources like you're some oracle of all things def info.

This not only makes you look tedious at times, but now on the fringes of hypocrisy. By sharing any transfer rumour you're implying a degree of belief in it if you regurgitate it on here trying to create commentary on it.

Vet your information before you imply someone who is self-assured in their information is in need of vetting theirs.
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So Dobra on 13:25 - Jun 1 with 3173 viewschrismakin

So Dobra on 13:17 - Jun 1 by wkj

You imply that Joe is making it up, yet you share every feckin' tweet going from powderpuff twitter sources like you're some oracle of all things def info.

This not only makes you look tedious at times, but now on the fringes of hypocrisy. By sharing any transfer rumour you're implying a degree of belief in it if you regurgitate it on here trying to create commentary on it.

Vet your information before you imply someone who is self-assured in their information is in need of vetting theirs.
[Post edited 1 Jun 2021 13:18]


No, there is nothing in my post to suggest joe himself is making it up. I believe he is posting what he has been told.. at this moment I don't believe that source. If it turns out correct, then fine.

Me sharing tweets is to start discussions on the forum about town related content, the forums purpose. You as a poster can decide if you wish to believe the rumour and take part in the discussion. or even if you don't believe the rumour as most are fake anyway, it's still a chance to discuss the player in question.
[Post edited 1 Jun 2021 13:26]

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So Dobra on 13:28 - Jun 1 with 3140 viewswkj

So Dobra on 13:25 - Jun 1 by chrismakin

No, there is nothing in my post to suggest joe himself is making it up. I believe he is posting what he has been told.. at this moment I don't believe that source. If it turns out correct, then fine.

Me sharing tweets is to start discussions on the forum about town related content, the forums purpose. You as a poster can decide if you wish to believe the rumour and take part in the discussion. or even if you don't believe the rumour as most are fake anyway, it's still a chance to discuss the player in question.
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Or you can do what most people do and realise that the vast majority of what shows up on twitter is utter wa*k and figure out which journos are the ones that have a track record of being credible?


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So Dobra on 13:29 - Jun 1 with 3149 viewschrismakin

So Dobra on 13:28 - Jun 1 by wkj

Or you can do what most people do and realise that the vast majority of what shows up on twitter is utter wa*k and figure out which journos are the ones that have a track record of being credible?


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There's nothing to realise, i'm well aware that there is a large quality out there that don't end up being true, doesnt mean the player in question isn't worth discussing.

I would appreciate it if you wouldn't put me in the same bracket as 12th man

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So Dobra on 13:30 - Jun 1 with 3125 viewswkj

So Dobra on 13:29 - Jun 1 by chrismakin

There's nothing to realise, i'm well aware that there is a large quality out there that don't end up being true, doesnt mean the player in question isn't worth discussing.

I would appreciate it if you wouldn't put me in the same bracket as 12th man


Well stop acting like him and seek quality over quantity then.

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So Dobra on 13:31 - Jun 1 with 3131 viewschrismakin

So Dobra on 13:30 - Jun 1 by wkj

Well stop acting like him and seek quality over quantity then.


Use the ignore function if you don't wish to see them.

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So Dobra on 13:33 - Jun 1 with 3099 viewswkj

So Dobra on 13:31 - Jun 1 by chrismakin

Use the ignore function if you don't wish to see them.


Such a 12thy thing to say.

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So Dobra on 13:34 - Jun 1 with 3103 viewsitfcjoe

So Dobra on 12:44 - Jun 1 by only_one_sir_bobby

Whilst you're correct in saying that new managers need to earn their reputation and that the 'can do no wrong' section of fans are probably going a little overboard, you can't also be saying things like: "How about Paul Cook find a new club, this regime is going to be a disaster". I'm probably paraphrasing somewhat there, but you said that a few weeks ago. That is an equally over the top reaction to the 'he can do no wrong' crew.
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That was OTT and an emotional reaction, it was not quite what I meant and I subsequently rowed back but didn't want to delete the tweet as had said it. Some took it the wrong way and can see why as it was very poorly worded.

Just feels reminiscent at times of when Hurst was in, and every decision was being celebrated even though you could see some were obviously wrong. We'll see where we are in August, and am looking forward toa nd positive for the new season, just feel mistakes have been made already with regards to how we ended up with a lack of impact - and sure Cook would admit that too

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So Dobra on 13:38 - Jun 1 with 3051 viewsjeera

So Dobra on 13:25 - Jun 1 by chrismakin

No, there is nothing in my post to suggest joe himself is making it up. I believe he is posting what he has been told.. at this moment I don't believe that source. If it turns out correct, then fine.

Me sharing tweets is to start discussions on the forum about town related content, the forums purpose. You as a poster can decide if you wish to believe the rumour and take part in the discussion. or even if you don't believe the rumour as most are fake anyway, it's still a chance to discuss the player in question.
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"If it turns out correct, then fine."

It's not fine though is it?

It's more and more unnecessary, and frankly insulting, rubbish from you for nothing.

Your approach seems to be then, that you can make up any old crap you like on the basis you can always apologise later somewhere.

You should work for a tabloid paper.

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So Dobra on 13:42 - Jun 1 with 3033 viewsSpruceMoose

So Dobra on 13:09 - Jun 1 by chrismakin

Jesus Spruce

1 post about drinans renewal doesn't suddenly mean i've been PC out since day 1,

if you must really know, that day was the day we found out how long my father in law has left to live following his diagnoses of lung cancer, i was having a bad day, as i said on the day and apologised for on the very same thread that very same night, I took the drinan news as a kick to the teeth over the academy, which whilst stupid at the time, that's why i lost it for that 1 specific post for what? about an hour - which you keep bringing up.
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I'm very sorry to hear about your father in law.

I keep bringing it up because you keep taking a pop at other fans for doing something you do yourself. It's hypocrisy.

This is a forum. I thought it was for discussion? I'm discussing your posts. You're free to disagree, but it doesn't mean it isn't worth discussing. Use the ignore function if you don't want to see it.
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So Dobra on 13:50 - Jun 1 with 2978 viewsonly_one_sir_bobby

So Dobra on 13:34 - Jun 1 by itfcjoe

That was OTT and an emotional reaction, it was not quite what I meant and I subsequently rowed back but didn't want to delete the tweet as had said it. Some took it the wrong way and can see why as it was very poorly worded.

Just feels reminiscent at times of when Hurst was in, and every decision was being celebrated even though you could see some were obviously wrong. We'll see where we are in August, and am looking forward toa nd positive for the new season, just feel mistakes have been made already with regards to how we ended up with a lack of impact - and sure Cook would admit that too


That's fair enough Joe. You're a respected itfc fan and thoroughly enjoy the material you and the rest of the BM team put together, which is why it was a little disappointing when you tweeted that out. If it was an emotional, spur of the moment type thing though, we've all been there, and fair play to own it and not double down on it.

Personally, I do see why some fans are concerned, and a little haunted by the Hurst era. However, Hurst was saying those things and making those mistakes with a team he had just spent the summer assembling. Which is slightly different from now, where Cook is saying and acting on players that he hasn't bought in. Like you say, we'll see where we are in August!
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So Dobra on 14:33 - Jun 1 with 2895 viewsitfcjoe

So Dobra on 13:50 - Jun 1 by only_one_sir_bobby

That's fair enough Joe. You're a respected itfc fan and thoroughly enjoy the material you and the rest of the BM team put together, which is why it was a little disappointing when you tweeted that out. If it was an emotional, spur of the moment type thing though, we've all been there, and fair play to own it and not double down on it.

Personally, I do see why some fans are concerned, and a little haunted by the Hurst era. However, Hurst was saying those things and making those mistakes with a team he had just spent the summer assembling. Which is slightly different from now, where Cook is saying and acting on players that he hasn't bought in. Like you say, we'll see where we are in August!
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It just concerns me I keep seeing some old Hurst quotes about the players as proof he was right, and Cook taking similar path and people linking the two and almost forgetting that PH was such a disaster.

I feel confident having Ashton in, it's been too long since we've had someone running things properly and that will be the big difference maker for me - at the minute I think this is far more important than the manager and their relationship will be what dictates our (hopeful) success.

Feels like a genuine 'new era' now, in almost every facet - it was overdue to be fair.

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So Dobra on 16:43 - Jun 1 with 2800 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

So Dobra on 13:02 - Jun 1 by SpruceMoose

Let's not rewrite history. You were pretty much calling for his head when Drinan had his contract extension. It's good that you're being more sensible right now, but you do have the reputation for changing like the wind.


Give it a rest Spruce. It's ok for people to change their minds.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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So Dobra on 16:47 - Jun 1 with 2784 viewsSpruceMoose

So Dobra on 16:43 - Jun 1 by The_Flashing_Smile

Give it a rest Spruce. It's ok for people to change their minds.


Who rung your bell Dolly? Sure, it's fine to change your mind, but don't constantly go around criticising other folk afterward as if you're in any way better.

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So Dobra on 17:04 - Jun 1 with 2743 viewschrismakin

So Dobra on 16:47 - Jun 1 by SpruceMoose

Who rung your bell Dolly? Sure, it's fine to change your mind, but don't constantly go around criticising other folk afterward as if you're in any way better.


Would you actually like to show me where i'm going around criticising folk.......... and without going back 4 weeks to bring up 1 post - - because that's the only 1 you always refer to for some reason and then like your post here, say i'm going around criticising people.

Again, this thread, you and your circle of mates get together to go at me just because I said I didn't at this time believe a source, also a comment made days ago, so who's the one going around digging at people

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So Dobra on 17:07 - Jun 1 with 2738 viewsSpruceMoose

So Dobra on 17:04 - Jun 1 by chrismakin

Would you actually like to show me where i'm going around criticising folk.......... and without going back 4 weeks to bring up 1 post - - because that's the only 1 you always refer to for some reason and then like your post here, say i'm going around criticising people.

Again, this thread, you and your circle of mates get together to go at me just because I said I didn't at this time believe a source, also a comment made days ago, so who's the one going around digging at people


You make the forum borderline unuseable.

Get on the div list.

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So Dobra on 17:40 - Jun 1 with 2703 viewswkj

So Dobra on 17:04 - Jun 1 by chrismakin

Would you actually like to show me where i'm going around criticising folk.......... and without going back 4 weeks to bring up 1 post - - because that's the only 1 you always refer to for some reason and then like your post here, say i'm going around criticising people.

Again, this thread, you and your circle of mates get together to go at me just because I said I didn't at this time believe a source, also a comment made days ago, so who's the one going around digging at people


It isn't about circle of mates - It is about a bunch of people with a similar reaction who can't bite their tongue any more.

I get it, to get a scoop is exciting for some people, especially if it ends up on the news pages - but this isn't some kind of popularity contest for analysing every bit of rubbish news around ITFC.

Ignoring/Div list is usually the most diplomatic option, but when you're making new posts almost identical to other ones because commenting on that thread isn't enough, then making implications of other people's researched opinions as 'anyone can make something up' - the presence of messages that can not be seen all over the place makes people unignorably.

Try being part of the conversations instead of trying to be the conversations - you'll find a lot of attitudes towards you will quickly change for the better.
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So Dobra on 18:10 - Jun 1 with 2654 viewsDubtractor

So Dobra on 14:33 - Jun 1 by itfcjoe

It just concerns me I keep seeing some old Hurst quotes about the players as proof he was right, and Cook taking similar path and people linking the two and almost forgetting that PH was such a disaster.

I feel confident having Ashton in, it's been too long since we've had someone running things properly and that will be the big difference maker for me - at the minute I think this is far more important than the manager and their relationship will be what dictates our (hopeful) success.

Feels like a genuine 'new era' now, in almost every facet - it was overdue to be fair.


Cook was my choice, and still is, but the bit I'm unhappy with so far is the way he has treated players publicly.

Like you, I'm confused why people refer to the Hurst era and similar quotes as a potential positive!

That's not to say I disagree with everything he has said, I just don't see the need to air it all.
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So Dobra on 19:08 - Jun 1 with 2589 viewsITFC_1988

So Dobra on 17:07 - Jun 1 by SpruceMoose

You make the forum borderline unuseable.

Get on the div list.


‘You make the forum borderline unusable’

Says the person who regurgitates the same arguments with the same posters time after time after time leading to long threads of exactly the same thing.

The lack of self awareness is laughable.
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So Dobra on 20:02 - Jun 1 with 2526 viewsreusersfreekicks

So Dobra on 13:25 - Jun 1 by chrismakin

No, there is nothing in my post to suggest joe himself is making it up. I believe he is posting what he has been told.. at this moment I don't believe that source. If it turns out correct, then fine.

Me sharing tweets is to start discussions on the forum about town related content, the forums purpose. You as a poster can decide if you wish to believe the rumour and take part in the discussion. or even if you don't believe the rumour as most are fake anyway, it's still a chance to discuss the player in question.
[Post edited 1 Jun 2021 13:26]


That's terrible rationale for posting nonsense rumours
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So Dobra on 08:13 - Jun 2 with 2360 viewsSamWhiteUK

So Dobra on 19:08 - Jun 1 by ITFC_1988

‘You make the forum borderline unusable’

Says the person who regurgitates the same arguments with the same posters time after time after time leading to long threads of exactly the same thing.

The lack of self awareness is laughable.


Amen to that.
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