| So Dobra 13:41 - May 29 with 22193 views | chrismakin |
The first to pass the PC who wants to stay test.
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| So Dobra on 19:59 - May 29 with 3414 views | gordon |
| So Dobra on 19:54 - May 29 by gtsb1966 |
You could've mentioned that last paragraph on your first post but chose not to. Whilst i am not saying you're wrong im still sceptical that it was just Cook telling him to go in that manner, if he did, for no reason at all. You don't like Cook, you've made that obvious in previous posts, but perhaps we need to hear the truth before slating Cook. |
Joe hasn't said anything negative about Cook at all in this thread - when asked he said he didn't know the reason (if there was one). |  | | |
| So Dobra on 20:05 - May 29 with 3404 views | Butterbing |
I hate the fact that this “knowledge” is posted on here. Whoever is passing on info to random fans should be kicked out of the club. This is the professional career of a young guy being discussed here. There should be more respect rather than certain posters bragging about how much they know. Have some respect. |  | | |
| So Dobra on 20:08 - May 29 with 3390 views | itfcjoe |
| So Dobra on 19:54 - May 29 by gtsb1966 |
You could've mentioned that last paragraph on your first post but chose not to. Whilst i am not saying you're wrong im still sceptical that it was just Cook telling him to go in that manner, if he did, for no reason at all. You don't like Cook, you've made that obvious in previous posts, but perhaps we need to hear the truth before slating Cook. |
The last paragraph is me speculating and guessing, why would I mention it previously? |  |
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| So Dobra on 20:10 - May 29 with 3377 views | ZXBlue |
| So Dobra on 19:25 - May 29 by BlueBlueBluex2 |
I think you need to look it up. |
Perhaps you need to avoid assuming you have knowledge, when it is plain you do not.
And to stop assuming that others do not, when they might know a good deal more than you. |  | | |
| So Dobra on 20:22 - May 29 with 3339 views | MattinLondon |
| So Dobra on 20:05 - May 29 by Butterbing |
I hate the fact that this “knowledge” is posted on here. Whoever is passing on info to random fans should be kicked out of the club. This is the professional career of a young guy being discussed here. There should be more respect rather than certain posters bragging about how much they know. Have some respect. |
Footballers aren’t the only profession to which people speculate on their careers. Popular Musicians, actors, F1 drivers etc etc. It what happens if they are in the public eye, I’m sure the clubs players all understand this and probably don’t care how such speculation is formed on here. Well unless it’s totally and utterly wide of the mark. |  | | |
| So Dobra on 20:30 - May 29 with 3321 views | gordon |
| So Dobra on 20:05 - May 29 by Butterbing |
I hate the fact that this “knowledge” is posted on here. Whoever is passing on info to random fans should be kicked out of the club. This is the professional career of a young guy being discussed here. There should be more respect rather than certain posters bragging about how much they know. Have some respect. |
Is it not far, far more disrespecful for the OP to just make up out of thin air that a player being pushed out of his club is actually just being subjected to some mind games? | | | |
| So Dobra on 20:55 - May 29 with 3262 views | Butterbing |
| So Dobra on 20:30 - May 29 by gordon |
Is it not far, far more disrespecful for the OP to just make up out of thin air that a player being pushed out of his club is actually just being subjected to some mind games? |
There is a difference between fan speculation and posting private information as fact. It’s attention seeking and completely disrespectful. | | | |
| So Dobra on 21:08 - May 29 with 3212 views | gordon |
| So Dobra on 20:55 - May 29 by Butterbing |
There is a difference between fan speculation and posting private information as fact. It’s attention seeking and completely disrespectful. |
Disrespectful to who? Paul Cook? | | | |
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| So Dobra on 21:09 - May 29 with 3207 views | chrismakin |
| So Dobra on 20:30 - May 29 by gordon |
Is it not far, far more disrespecful for the OP to just make up out of thin air that a player being pushed out of his club is actually just being subjected to some mind games? |
Not at all
PC has been known for playing mind games in the hope his players show want a desire. It is also not uncommon.
PC Is also known by fans and players of previous clubs as a top manager to play for and someone who has obtained respect from all different areas in football.
What he isn't known for is acting in the manner which Joe brought to the thread.
As I say if I am wrong. I will gladly apologise in the future. | |
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| So Dobra on 21:12 - May 29 with 3192 views | jeera |
| So Dobra on 21:09 - May 29 by chrismakin |
Not at all
PC has been known for playing mind games in the hope his players show want a desire. It is also not uncommon.
PC Is also known by fans and players of previous clubs as a top manager to play for and someone who has obtained respect from all different areas in football.
What he isn't known for is acting in the manner which Joe brought to the thread.
As I say if I am wrong. I will gladly apologise in the future. |
Weren't you running a local club at some point? |  |
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| So Dobra on 21:38 - May 29 with 3131 views | chrismakin |
| So Dobra on 21:12 - May 29 by jeera |
Weren't you running a local club at some point? |
No | |
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| So Dobra on 21:40 - May 29 with 3120 views | Geomorph |
| So Dobra on 19:54 - May 29 by gtsb1966 |
You could've mentioned that last paragraph on your first post but chose not to. Whilst i am not saying you're wrong im still sceptical that it was just Cook telling him to go in that manner, if he did, for no reason at all. You don't like Cook, you've made that obvious in previous posts, but perhaps we need to hear the truth before slating Cook. |
Cook has a decadal track record. Our players have a track record over recent seasons. Those track records smack of success and failure, respectively. |  | | |
| So Dobra on 22:13 - May 29 with 3026 views | LeoMuff |
| So Dobra on 21:40 - May 29 by Geomorph |
Cook has a decadal track record. Our players have a track record over recent seasons. Those track records smack of success and failure, respectively. |
Seems like it’s either the players attitude and application was so poor he can’t trust a single one of them to deliver, or he is playing mind games to see who shows for him.
Either way feels pretty bizarre, but Cook is on the inside and they really did not turn up for him in the games he had so maybe it was so toxic a complete reset is needed. |  |
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| So Dobra on 22:19 - May 29 with 3008 views | chrismakin |
| So Dobra on 22:13 - May 29 by LeoMuff |
Seems like it’s either the players attitude and application was so poor he can’t trust a single one of them to deliver, or he is playing mind games to see who shows for him.
Either way feels pretty bizarre, but Cook is on the inside and they really did not turn up for him in the games he had so maybe it was so toxic a complete reset is needed. |
Also, lets be honest, If joe's source is correct, then that is a hell of a phrase for any manager to use to a 'youngster' let alone someone not known for being that type of manager. So if it did indeed happen, what the hell has happened behind the scenes for it to happen... because you certainly wouldn't go into that sort of rant based on a few sub appearences and a couple of starts under PC and appearences which tbh were actually very positive including the assist for Norwood in the final game... and one of very few promising moments from the final handful of games. | |
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| So Dobra on 23:01 - May 29 with 2919 views | ITFC_96 |
| So Dobra on 22:19 - May 29 by chrismakin |
Also, lets be honest, If joe's source is correct, then that is a hell of a phrase for any manager to use to a 'youngster' let alone someone not known for being that type of manager. So if it did indeed happen, what the hell has happened behind the scenes for it to happen... because you certainly wouldn't go into that sort of rant based on a few sub appearences and a couple of starts under PC and appearences which tbh were actually very positive including the assist for Norwood in the final game... and one of very few promising moments from the final handful of games. |
Could it be that a manager who managed to do worse than Lambert and constantly slagged his players after defeats isn't actually the messiah? | | | |
| So Dobra on 23:04 - May 29 with 2913 views | chrismakin |
| So Dobra on 23:01 - May 29 by ITFC_96 |
Could it be that a manager who managed to do worse than Lambert and constantly slagged his players after defeats isn't actually the messiah? |
You're right. He should have praised them | |
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| So Dobra on 23:45 - May 29 with 2836 views | gtsb1966 |
| So Dobra on 19:59 - May 29 by gordon |
Joe hasn't said anything negative about Cook at all in this thread - when asked he said he didn't know the reason (if there was one). |
The clue was when i said "previous posts" |  | | |
| So Dobra on 00:36 - May 30 with 2785 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| So Dobra on 16:24 - May 29 by itfcjoe |
Coon has literally told him he isn’t welcome back at pre season even if he wants to train with the U18s, and won’t be able to use the gym or any club facilities if he hasn’t sorted a move.
Hardly sounds like a ‘test’, he wants him gone |
Lol... bull..... you have no idea |  |
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| So Dobra on 04:00 - May 30 with 2711 views | SpruceMoose |
Well I have no idea what's going on here. I do know this though. There's no way a well known and well respected poster is going risk their entire reputation by making up and spreading rumours about what's going on in the club. Joe isn't some anonymous troll. There's nothing to gain by doing so, and everything to lose.
I don't know why Cook would be doing what's claimed, but I reckon Joe knows what he knows, and he's reporting what he genuinely believes. |  |
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| So Dobra on 04:33 - May 30 with 2697 views | jeera |
| So Dobra on 00:36 - May 30 by Wallingford_Boy |
Lol... bull..... you have no idea |
How would you know? | |
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| So Dobra on 06:10 - May 30 with 2673 views | bobbyramsey |
| So Dobra on 19:45 - May 29 by itfcjoe |
Dobra hasn’t had an easy time here for a while - interest from top clubs but we dug heels in then did so again over contract demands but eventually got that done. Then the whole squad photo thing, then told he needs to go out on loan and p’ing PL of by doing so, then gets in team and despite starting 5 in 6 when a few players come back from injury he goes from starting on Saturday to being back with U23s for training on Monday.
He may have reacted badly to something and that’s why things escalated - but regardless that is the message he has been given now |
No-one seems to have considered that Dobra maybe an awkward little sh!t with a bad attitude and needs to leave the the club. [Post edited 30 May 2021 6:12]
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| So Dobra on 07:57 - May 30 with 2562 views | RedX |
Tearing into a manager based on rumour and guesswork. Some beauties on here.
Like a bunch of teenage girls. |  | | |
| So Dobra on 08:09 - May 30 with 2546 views | BlueBlueBluex2 |
| So Dobra on 20:10 - May 29 by ZXBlue |
Perhaps you need to avoid assuming you have knowledge, when it is plain you do not.
And to stop assuming that others do not, when they might know a good deal more than you. |
So lets agree to disagree. | | | |
| So Dobra on 08:13 - May 30 with 2542 views | BlueBlueBluex2 |
| So Dobra on 04:00 - May 30 by SpruceMoose |
Well I have no idea what's going on here. I do know this though. There's no way a well known and well respected poster is going risk their entire reputation by making up and spreading rumours about what's going on in the club. Joe isn't some anonymous troll. There's nothing to gain by doing so, and everything to lose.
I don't know why Cook would be doing what's claimed, but I reckon Joe knows what he knows, and he's reporting what he genuinely believes. |
My contacts are clearly not the same as Joes as I have not heard that message but I can substantiate that PC is an absolute 'Monster' in the changing rooms, not like 'anything they have had before' and the guys I know socially (just 2) are not fans of his in any way shape or form.
Now this could be a generic "I don't like my boss" kinda scenario that young men with money on the hip would find themselves in or an actual "hold on, I actually do not like this chap" - From what I know, its not the latter. | | | |
| So Dobra on 08:41 - May 30 with 2504 views | Radlett_blue |
| So Dobra on 06:10 - May 30 by bobbyramsey |
No-one seems to have considered that Dobra maybe an awkward little sh!t with a bad attitude and needs to leave the the club. [Post edited 30 May 2021 6:12]
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If it's true that Cook pretty much wants rid of all Town's contracted players, I find it hard to believe they all have bad attitudes. Has any manager had success after effectively binning the entire squad? |  |
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