| Draining the swamp 10:01 - Jun 2 with 17536 views | Herbivore |
You love to see it. |  |
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| Draining the swamp on 15:44 - Jun 2 with 2318 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Draining the swamp on 10:56 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner |
There isn't, but there is a whole lot of grey area in peoples definition of racism. |
Great, another apologist, determined to blur the lines of what it is to be racist. |  |
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| Draining the swamp on 15:44 - Jun 2 with 2309 views | jeera |
| Draining the swamp on 15:26 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966 |
This forum has really gone to shoite. There are a few of you who will turn anything you can into a racist argument even though there isn't anything to see most of the time . Just a bunch of lefties on here now. If someone says they voted Tory you call them racist. If someone says illegal immigrants crossing the channel is out of control you call them racist. Why don't you just go and start your own forum and you can all agree about everything and give each other a pat on the back all day everyday. [Post edited 2 Jun 2021 15:27]
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Really? Wow.
You haven't got a clue what's been said, done or posted have you?
You've just spouted some random thoughts.
Wtf has got into you?
The bloke has been posting stuff with clear racist connotations. And here you are trying to make tenuous connections with something that hasn't happened. |  |
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| Draining the swamp on 15:48 - Jun 2 with 2289 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Draining the swamp on 15:26 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966 |
This forum has really gone to shoite. There are a few of you who will turn anything you can into a racist argument even though there isn't anything to see most of the time . Just a bunch of lefties on here now. If someone says they voted Tory you call them racist. If someone says illegal immigrants crossing the channel is out of control you call them racist. Why don't you just go and start your own forum and you can all agree about everything and give each other a pat on the back all day everyday. [Post edited 2 Jun 2021 15:27]
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Racist gets banned for being racist, but it is the "lefties".
Well done on making up an imaginary scenario about immigration to get offended by. Creative, but tedious. | |
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| Draining the swamp on 15:51 - Jun 2 with 2269 views | jeera |
| Draining the swamp on 15:34 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966 |
And as if by magic you turn up. Youre one of the worst for stirring up shoite that isn't there. |
Absolute shame on you trying that nonsense after your own disgusting post. | |
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| Draining the swamp on 15:53 - Jun 2 with 2268 views | gtsb1966 |
| Draining the swamp on 15:39 - Jun 2 by SpruceMoose |
When you say 'stuff that isn't there' you actually mean 'stuff you don't care about' right?
How is posting a Youtube clip encouraging people to boo players taking a knee a) not there and b) not stirring up shoite? |
The video shouldn't have been posted on here granted but does that make him a racist? Personally I think it's done now and should be scrapped so i suppose that makes me racist. I watch videos of boat loads of men, not women and children but just men, trying to get into Britain illegally and think we should turn them back. Does that make me a racist. To many on here it does. The list goes on. People are too quick to shout racist on here. Always have been. |  | | |
| Draining the swamp on 15:56 - Jun 2 with 2240 views | footers |
| Draining the swamp on 15:53 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966 |
The video shouldn't have been posted on here granted but does that make him a racist? Personally I think it's done now and should be scrapped so i suppose that makes me racist. I watch videos of boat loads of men, not women and children but just men, trying to get into Britain illegally and think we should turn them back. Does that make me a racist. To many on here it does. The list goes on. People are too quick to shout racist on here. Always have been. |
You're just inventing things to be angry about now. Keep playing the victim though, it's quite funny to watch you do an impression of a human pressure cooker. |  |
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| Draining the swamp on 15:59 - Jun 2 with 2210 views | gtsb1966 |
| Draining the swamp on 15:56 - Jun 2 by footers |
You're just inventing things to be angry about now. Keep playing the victim though, it's quite funny to watch you do an impression of a human pressure cooker. |
Im sitting in the garden having a cuppa. Chilled as chilled can be. With that I'll bid you good day. Grass needs cutting. | | | |
| Draining the swamp on 16:00 - Jun 2 with 2198 views | jeera |
| Draining the swamp on 15:53 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966 |
The video shouldn't have been posted on here granted but does that make him a racist? Personally I think it's done now and should be scrapped so i suppose that makes me racist. I watch videos of boat loads of men, not women and children but just men, trying to get into Britain illegally and think we should turn them back. Does that make me a racist. To many on here it does. The list goes on. People are too quick to shout racist on here. Always have been. |
He's done it about 10 times over several months.
This isn't sinking in is it? No one has just shouted racist.
It's taken this long for the patience to finally snap.
How hard can this possibly be? | |
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| Draining the swamp on 16:00 - Jun 2 with 2201 views | footers |
| Draining the swamp on 15:59 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966 |
Im sitting in the garden having a cuppa. Chilled as chilled can be. With that I'll bid you good day. Grass needs cutting. |
OK, mate. Thanks for your insightful contribution. | |
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| Draining the swamp on 16:00 - Jun 2 with 2202 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Draining the swamp on 15:53 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966 |
The video shouldn't have been posted on here granted but does that make him a racist? Personally I think it's done now and should be scrapped so i suppose that makes me racist. I watch videos of boat loads of men, not women and children but just men, trying to get into Britain illegally and think we should turn them back. Does that make me a racist. To many on here it does. The list goes on. People are too quick to shout racist on here. Always have been. |
I think the fact that you are using made up scenarios to get offended by in order to promote anti "leftie" sentiment and defend a known racist, does make you come across as a racist. Either that or a bit stupid.
I guess this is the grey area Naze was talking about. The bit between racism and stupidity. | |
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| Draining the swamp on 16:00 - Jun 2 with 2195 views | SpruceMoose |
| Draining the swamp on 15:53 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966 |
The video shouldn't have been posted on here granted but does that make him a racist? Personally I think it's done now and should be scrapped so i suppose that makes me racist. I watch videos of boat loads of men, not women and children but just men, trying to get into Britain illegally and think we should turn them back. Does that make me a racist. To many on here it does. The list goes on. People are too quick to shout racist on here. Always have been. |
Depends. Can you provide a well thought out reasoning for what you think?
Why do you think taking a knee is 'done' now? Has racism been stopped? Are players not still subjected to racism? Are Black people not still being murdered by police? Is it more accurate to say that you are just bored of it? It really doesn't impact you, you have the luxury of not caring about it, so why do you care?
Where are you watching these videos of people coming into the country? How many are there? What happens to them? Presumably if they are being videoed arriving then the authorities are aware? Why do you think they are coming here? Do you think a wealthy country has a responsibility to be compassionate?
You seem to just be angry that people are asking these questions, and I doubt I'll get a genuine attempt out of you to answer any of them. You just seem to want to rant and rave that blokes like me make other blokes look bad by having empathy for others. [Post edited 2 Jun 2021 16:02]
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| Draining the swamp on 16:01 - Jun 2 with 2181 views | SpruceMoose |
| Draining the swamp on 16:00 - Jun 2 by Kropotkin123 |
I think the fact that you are using made up scenarios to get offended by in order to promote anti "leftie" sentiment and defend a known racist, does make you come across as a racist. Either that or a bit stupid.
I guess this is the grey area Naze was talking about. The bit between racism and stupidity. |
It is seemingly a very populated place around here. | |
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| Draining the swamp on 16:05 - Jun 2 with 2151 views | Herbivore |
| Draining the swamp on 15:26 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966 |
This forum has really gone to shoite. There are a few of you who will turn anything you can into a racist argument even though there isn't anything to see most of the time . Just a bunch of lefties on here now. If someone says they voted Tory you call them racist. If someone says illegal immigrants crossing the channel is out of control you call them racist. Why don't you just go and start your own forum and you can all agree about everything and give each other a pat on the back all day everyday. [Post edited 2 Jun 2021 15:27]
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Since when was not liking racists the sole preserve of "lefties"? I remember when there used to be decent folk to the right of centre who also abhorred racism. This isn't political, it's about not tolerating racism. Not tolerating racism shouldn't really be controversial in this day and age and it really shouldn't bunch your panties as much as it seems to have bunched yours. You might want to reflect on why you're more upset about people who don't like racism than you are about racism. | |
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| Draining the swamp on 16:17 - Jun 2 with 2103 views | BlueBadger |
| Draining the swamp on 11:02 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner |
What i struggle with are those that vilify people beacuse they laugh at Alf Garnet sketches.
We all know racism is a problem, although not a particularly prevelent one in our wonderfully diverse nation.
Our incessant need to attack eachothers opinions seems to me to be a bigger problem in todays society. [Post edited 2 Jun 2021 11:04]
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We have an openly racist Prime Minister and the ruling party is currently under investigation for it's attitudes towards muslims. |  |
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| Draining the swamp on 16:29 - Jun 2 with 2067 views | SpruceMoose |
| Draining the swamp on 16:05 - Jun 2 by Herbivore |
Since when was not liking racists the sole preserve of "lefties"? I remember when there used to be decent folk to the right of centre who also abhorred racism. This isn't political, it's about not tolerating racism. Not tolerating racism shouldn't really be controversial in this day and age and it really shouldn't bunch your panties as much as it seems to have bunched yours. You might want to reflect on why you're more upset about people who don't like racism than you are about racism. |
I'm just spit balling here, so forgive me if it comes across as me trying to defend bigotry (I'm really not), or attacking the good people of Suffolk (again, I'm really not) but I often think back on my upbringing in Suffolk and compare and contrast to my experiences since moving to a more diverse place.
It's easy to ignore racism, or at least convince yourself that it isn't really a big deal anymore, in a place where 90% of the population identify as White British. Unless you're in a field of work that brings you into contact with minorities, you really can go day to day mainly interacting with people who look like you, sound like you, eat the same food as you, have the same cultural beliefs as you.
That's not anyone's fault, you live where you live and you see who you see, but it really can deny people the opportunity to hear about or witness the experiences of people who negotiate the world in a vastly different way to you. We all have things in common, but there's also some major differences that you never think about unless you actively make the effort.
It's not difficult to imagine how under these circumstances, when confronted with BLM protests or football players kneeling on the TV, the initial reaction is to roll your eyes and to think it's all a load of fuss about nothing. It's remote. It's not a 'me' problem, an it's not even a 'we' problem, it's a 'them' problem.
When I moved here I quickly came to realise that I brought all kinds of biases and assumptions with me about groups of people, based on what society and culture told me rather than my own direct experiences with them. So often, in our culture, Black stories are told by white voices, and that is inherently inauthentic. That was a difficult thing to admit to myself about myself, and its something I still carry with me every day. It's an ongoing process to always be aware of what you unwittingly expect other people to be like.
I now live somewhere that I have to confront it every time I step out of my front door though. I can't ignore it, when the vast majority of my friends and neighbours aren't White Anglo Saxon in heritage. I honestly can say that if I'd stayed living in rural Suffolk that probably wouldn't be the case. I'd have still been dead against racism and racists, but I don't know if I would have ever had to so closely examine my own biases. [Post edited 2 Jun 2021 19:54]
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| Draining the swamp on 16:34 - Jun 2 with 2032 views | Nazemariner |
| Draining the swamp on 14:55 - Jun 2 by BlueBadger |
Where do you stand on standing up to bullies? Because that's what bigotry ultimately is - bullying. [Post edited 2 Jun 2021 16:19]
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I think all bullies should be chemically castrated.
Am i fitting in? |  | | |
| Draining the swamp on 16:38 - Jun 2 with 1997 views | SpruceMoose |
| Draining the swamp on 16:34 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner |
I think all bullies should be chemically castrated.
Am i fitting in? |
Can we start with the Tory cabinet? | |
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| Draining the swamp on 16:41 - Jun 2 with 1975 views | eireblue |
| Draining the swamp on 16:34 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner |
I think all bullies should be chemically castrated.
Am i fitting in? |
Well we are still waiting for you to tell us more about these grey areas in peoples thoughts on racism.
I know let's make it easier for you.
Jewish people been abused through history, so there is now a definition of what antisemitism is, with examples.
Maybe you can tell us what would be a grey area in the process, definition and examples of antisemitism?
That should be easier than addressing all racism, so a useful starting point, before we go a bit wider. |  | | |
| Draining the swamp on 16:45 - Jun 2 with 1953 views | Nazemariner |
| Draining the swamp on 16:00 - Jun 2 by Kropotkin123 |
I think the fact that you are using made up scenarios to get offended by in order to promote anti "leftie" sentiment and defend a known racist, does make you come across as a racist. Either that or a bit stupid.
I guess this is the grey area Naze was talking about. The bit between racism and stupidity. |
In reality those lines are a little blurred.
I'm definitely not trying to defend an act of racism, as some of the younger bearded posters appear determined to suggest, but i do think a small a amount of ignorance should be tolerated. | | | |
| Draining the swamp on 16:47 - Jun 2 with 1944 views | Seablu |
| Draining the swamp on 16:45 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner |
In reality those lines are a little blurred.
I'm definitely not trying to defend an act of racism, as some of the younger bearded posters appear determined to suggest, but i do think a small a amount of ignorance should be tolerated. |
Once you get down to just a small amount, you might find out. |  | | |
| Draining the swamp on 16:51 - Jun 2 with 1910 views | Nazemariner |
| Draining the swamp on 16:41 - Jun 2 by eireblue |
Well we are still waiting for you to tell us more about these grey areas in peoples thoughts on racism.
I know let's make it easier for you.
Jewish people been abused through history, so there is now a definition of what antisemitism is, with examples.
Maybe you can tell us what would be a grey area in the process, definition and examples of antisemitism?
That should be easier than addressing all racism, so a useful starting point, before we go a bit wider. |
Can i be honest with you? I don't really understand anti-semitism, as i've never encountered it, nor known anyone who has. I suspect that is something i have in common with 99% of the poster on this forum. | | | |
| Draining the swamp on 16:53 - Jun 2 with 1894 views | Nazemariner |
| Draining the swamp on 16:47 - Jun 2 by Seablu |
Once you get down to just a small amount, you might find out. |
Nope....
I did try to understand the point you were struggling to make, but just couldn't. | | | |
| Draining the swamp on 16:54 - Jun 2 with 1894 views | eireblue |
| Draining the swamp on 16:51 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner |
Can i be honest with you? I don't really understand anti-semitism, as i've never encountered it, nor known anyone who has. I suspect that is something i have in common with 99% of the poster on this forum. |
So you don't feel qualified to discuss antisemitism, since you haven't experienced it?
Assuming yes.
Presumably you are happy for the people that have experienced it, to define it? | | | |
| Draining the swamp on 16:59 - Jun 2 with 1884 views | factual_blue |
| Draining the swamp on 15:53 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966 |
The video shouldn't have been posted on here granted but does that make him a racist? Personally I think it's done now and should be scrapped so i suppose that makes me racist. I watch videos of boat loads of men, not women and children but just men, trying to get into Britain illegally and think we should turn them back. Does that make me a racist. To many on here it does. The list goes on. People are too quick to shout racist on here. Always have been. |
I'm proud of the fact that, despite burgeoning evidence to the contrary, this is a country where people who are seeking a safe haven are welcome and still want to come to.
That's something that dates back to Flemish and French political/religious refugees as far back as the thirteenth century. [Post edited 2 Jun 2021 17:06]
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| Draining the swamp on 17:02 - Jun 2 with 1859 views | Nazemariner |
| Draining the swamp on 16:54 - Jun 2 by eireblue |
So you don't feel qualified to discuss antisemitism, since you haven't experienced it?
Assuming yes.
Presumably you are happy for the people that have experienced it, to define it? |
You do not need to assume, as said exactly that in my post. | | | |
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