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Draining the swamp 10:01 - Jun 2 with 17522 viewsHerbivore

You love to see it.

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Draining the swamp on 13:07 - Jun 2 with 3492 viewsTimefliesbyintheblue

Draining the swamp on 11:38 - Jun 2 by footers

Funnily enough, I picked up an Alf Garnett book for a couple of quid last month. Obviously Speight was using a sledgehammer rather than a scalpel to get his point across, but it's a delicious irony that he was a socialist anti-racist. Although reading chapters entitled things like 'The Welsh w*g' does feel slightly uncomfortable for a more modern audience...


I like the point you make here about Speight being a socialist anti-racist. Sometimes the most obvious of seemingly racists are anything but; of course sadly the opposite also applies.
I do happen to believe that the UK is still a tolerant nation, that of course should not be interpreted as being a perfect one.
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Draining the swamp on 13:09 - Jun 2 with 3545 viewsfactual_blue

Draining the swamp on 11:11 - Jun 2 by PhilTWTD

I wish someone had reported that if that was the case. I wasn't aware of the poster at all until a few days ago.


I was expecting an 'Ahem' post from you at the very least.

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Draining the swamp on 13:20 - Jun 2 with 3498 viewsHerbivore

Draining the swamp on 12:22 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner

Don't call me mate.


Sorry, pal.

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Draining the swamp on 13:24 - Jun 2 with 3494 viewsSpruceMoose

Draining the swamp on 13:09 - Jun 2 by factual_blue

I was expecting an 'Ahem' post from you at the very least.


I think forum users notice it more than admins because we're on the threads more, interacting with these types more. It's not the kind of stuff you can always report in isolation because the racists have got sneaky.

Generally it's a pattern of low level dog whistling, hints and trolling. They aren't coming out with racist terms, but they are giving their mates a nudge and a wink and trying to get a rise out of the rest of us.

Just my two cents, but I think that's why a lot goes unreported, and why Phil always ends up asking why nobody told him about it when one of these types eventually and inevitably crosses the line. I've given up reporting those kind of comments now, because nothing ever happens and nothing changes.
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Draining the swamp on 13:27 - Jun 2 with 3468 viewsNazemariner

Draining the swamp on 13:20 - Jun 2 by Herbivore

Sorry, pal.


Another Bellend on the ignore list.
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Draining the swamp on 13:52 - Jun 2 with 3409 viewsjeera

Draining the swamp on 13:27 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner

Another Bellend on the ignore list.


Could you do me a favour and pop me on there as well please?

Your taking exception to Herbs there but not the racism feels all a bit uncomfortable for me.

Ta in advance.

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Draining the swamp on 13:54 - Jun 2 with 3406 viewsHARRY10

Draining the swamp on 10:07 - Jun 2 by MerseyBlue

That video was disgusting, I assume action was taken because it was an obvious attempt at creating a dumpster fire.


what's a dumpster ?
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Draining the swamp on 13:54 - Jun 2 with 3408 viewsBlueBadger

Draining the swamp on 10:39 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner

You can have bigots on both sides of the fence.


Ah, the Decent Right are here to stand up for oppressed racists, I see.

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Draining the swamp on 14:21 - Jun 2 with 3344 viewsNazemariner

Draining the swamp on 13:52 - Jun 2 by jeera

Could you do me a favour and pop me on there as well please?

Your taking exception to Herbs there but not the racism feels all a bit uncomfortable for me.

Ta in advance.


Happy to oblige.
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Draining the swamp on 14:22 - Jun 2 with 3340 viewsHerbivore

Draining the swamp on 13:27 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner

Another Bellend on the ignore list.


No need to be like that, buddy. Especially as you're meant to be against silencing those who you disagree with?

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Draining the swamp on 14:23 - Jun 2 with 3315 viewsfooters

Draining the swamp on 14:22 - Jun 2 by Herbivore

No need to be like that, buddy. Especially as you're meant to be against silencing those who you disagree with?



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Draining the swamp on 14:26 - Jun 2 with 3305 viewsHerbivore

Draining the swamp on 14:23 - Jun 2 by footers



People often complain that I'm too abrasive, but when I try to adopt a more friendly tone I end up getting put on ignore. That's twice that's happened now. It's all very confusing.

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Draining the swamp on 14:29 - Jun 2 with 3284 viewsfooters

Draining the swamp on 14:26 - Jun 2 by Herbivore

People often complain that I'm too abrasive, but when I try to adopt a more friendly tone I end up getting put on ignore. That's twice that's happened now. It's all very confusing.


It's a difficult one, Herb. Especially as I thought the tellin' it like it is brigade didn't mind a bit of the old rough and tumble. Maybe you should try saying 'Sir' instead? They seem to go for that.

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Draining the swamp on 14:33 - Jun 2 with 3272 viewsjeera

Draining the swamp on 11:09 - Jun 2 by Herbivore

Racism isn't a prevalent problem? Are you kidding me? Marcus Rashford was getting a load of racist abuse just last week because he missed a chance in the Europa League final and happens to be Black.

If you genuinely think that people being challenged for holding racist views is a bigger problem than racism then you probably need to work on your own self, mate.


How many times do these footballers have to speak out about their experiences before people listen?

And these are just the household names in a popular sport, which tells us it's the mere tip of a massive iceberg compared to the person in the street.

Rashford, as you say, Ian Wright has spoken out: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56949358

Jenas presented a programme just the other night:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/57309487

It's sickening to see this level of ignorance still out there, even more so when it's even on here in front of our eyes.

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Draining the swamp on 14:35 - Jun 2 with 3255 viewsjeera

Draining the swamp on 10:52 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner

I completely respect Phils judgement in removing the thread, as it is his role to act as a moderator on his forum. Not mine, and not yours.


Who do you think reports this crap in the first place?

It's forum users of course.

You think the mods have time to read every post?

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Draining the swamp on 14:55 - Jun 2 with 3196 viewsBlueBadger

Draining the swamp on 10:41 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner

I'd say siliencing somebody because you don't agree with what they say is not a good thing.

I don't know what has gone on previousley, so it could well be a case of the straw that broke the camels back.


Where do you stand on standing up to bullies? Because that's what bigotry ultimately is - bullying.
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Draining the swamp on 15:21 - Jun 2 with 3142 viewseireblue

Draining the swamp on 10:56 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner

There isn't, but there is a whole lot of grey area in peoples definition of racism.


Tell us about this grey area you think exists?
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Draining the swamp on 15:26 - Jun 2 with 3132 viewsgtsb1966

Draining the swamp on 10:50 - Jun 2 by footers

I know the poster's form and from the description of the video I am more than happy to judge him on what Herb and jeera have said.

But if you want to defend him, that's up to you, matey.


This forum has really gone to shoite. There are a few of you who will turn anything you can into a racist argument even though there isn't anything to see most of the time . Just a bunch of lefties on here now. If someone says they voted Tory you call them racist. If someone says illegal immigrants crossing the channel is out of control you call them racist. Why don't you just go and start your own forum and you can all agree about everything and give each other a pat on the back all day everyday.
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Draining the swamp on 15:28 - Jun 2 with 3128 viewsPhilTWTD

Draining the swamp on 10:41 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner

I'd say siliencing somebody because you don't agree with what they say is not a good thing.

I don't know what has gone on previousley, so it could well be a case of the straw that broke the camels back.


No place on here for people calling for the booing of players for taking a knee.

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Draining the swamp on 15:30 - Jun 2 with 3108 viewsfactual_blue

Draining the swamp on 14:35 - Jun 2 by jeera

Who do you think reports this crap in the first place?

It's forum users of course.

You think the mods have time to read every post?


Once Gav had written the code that generates all the posts on here, they've just sat back and spent their time eating hobnobs.

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Draining the swamp on 15:31 - Jun 2 with 3108 viewsSpruceMoose

Draining the swamp on 15:26 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966

This forum has really gone to shoite. There are a few of you who will turn anything you can into a racist argument even though there isn't anything to see most of the time . Just a bunch of lefties on here now. If someone says they voted Tory you call them racist. If someone says illegal immigrants crossing the channel is out of control you call them racist. Why don't you just go and start your own forum and you can all agree about everything and give each other a pat on the back all day everyday.
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Utter tosh.

Not only that, but how quickly you forget the support this forum gives people in times of need.

You should be ashamed of that post.

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Draining the swamp on 15:31 - Jun 2 with 3103 viewsfooters

Draining the swamp on 15:26 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966

This forum has really gone to shoite. There are a few of you who will turn anything you can into a racist argument even though there isn't anything to see most of the time . Just a bunch of lefties on here now. If someone says they voted Tory you call them racist. If someone says illegal immigrants crossing the channel is out of control you call them racist. Why don't you just go and start your own forum and you can all agree about everything and give each other a pat on the back all day everyday.
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Right, so presumably you agree with all the former poster's race baiting and dog whistling? What was the point of him posting a video about booing players taking a knee if not to get a rise out of others?

And nah, I'm fine posting here, cheers. If you don't like it, then tough titties - you ain't cancelling me, buddy.

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Draining the swamp on 15:34 - Jun 2 with 3076 viewsgtsb1966

Draining the swamp on 15:31 - Jun 2 by SpruceMoose

Utter tosh.

Not only that, but how quickly you forget the support this forum gives people in times of need.

You should be ashamed of that post.


And as if by magic you turn up. Youre one of the worst for stirring up shoite that isn't there.
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Draining the swamp on 15:39 - Jun 2 with 3021 viewsbluelagos

Draining the swamp on 11:02 - Jun 2 by Nazemariner

What i struggle with are those that vilify people beacuse they laugh at Alf Garnet sketches.

We all know racism is a problem, although not a particularly prevelent one in our wonderfully diverse nation.

Our incessant need to attack eachothers opinions seems to me to be a bigger problem in todays society.
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"We all know racism is a problem, although not a particularly prevelent one in our wonderfully diverse nation. "

An interesting take and not one I'd suggest the majority of black people agree with. I'd highly recommend Jemaine Jenas's "Stop and search" documentary on channel 4, a real eye opener.

Lots of testimony and examples of racist attitudes in our police towards people of colour. And if racism pervades the police, as well trained and keen to eliminate racism as they are, it is fair to assume it also pervades many other aspects of of our society.

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Draining the swamp on 15:39 - Jun 2 with 3019 viewsSpruceMoose

Draining the swamp on 15:34 - Jun 2 by gtsb1966

And as if by magic you turn up. Youre one of the worst for stirring up shoite that isn't there.


When you say 'stuff that isn't there' you actually mean 'stuff you don't care about' right?

How is posting a Youtube clip encouraging people to boo players taking a knee a) not there and b) not stirring up shoite?

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