| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK 15:22 - Jun 10 with 5283 views | ElderGrizzly |
Well done Boris... |  | | |  |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:44 - Jun 10 with 1683 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 16:54 - Jun 10 by hype313 |
Australia's about to get hit hard, and without a strong vaccine rollout they are vulnerable.
He added that the strain is currently spreading at a rate never seen before.
The Acting Premier said: "In the last day, we've seen more evidence we're dealing with a highly infectious strain of the virus, a variant of concern, which is running faster than we have ever recorded.
"We have identified in excess of 10,000 primary and secondary contacts who will need to either quarantine, or test and isolate, and that number will continue to grow and change.
"Our public health experts' primary concern is how fast this variant is moving. |
And that could be likely too. One thing we've learnt from this pandemic is things can change really quickly even in countries that previously have done far better than the norm in controlling it. Thailand is a good example; they were a model country until a couple of months ago, but have had an explosion of cases recently linked to some of these more easily transmissible cases.
Let's hope the vaccines will be a game changer for us, as we aren't capable of controlling spread otherwise. It looks like they are working and now I suppose it's just a race against time to get two shots into everyone. |  |
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:49 - Jun 10 with 1671 views | StokieBlue |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:44 - Jun 10 by Swansea_Blue |
And that could be likely too. One thing we've learnt from this pandemic is things can change really quickly even in countries that previously have done far better than the norm in controlling it. Thailand is a good example; they were a model country until a couple of months ago, but have had an explosion of cases recently linked to some of these more easily transmissible cases.
Let's hope the vaccines will be a game changer for us, as we aren't capable of controlling spread otherwise. It looks like they are working and now I suppose it's just a race against time to get two shots into everyone. |
Looks like there have been a few more cases of the Nepal variant found in the UK which has the K417N mutation found in the SA (Beta) variant.
This mutation of the spike protein is thought to make the variant more resistant to vaccines.
The only good news here is that the Delta variant is the same except this mutation so it's equally as transmissible and because there is so much more of it about it's possible it will simply outcompete the Nepal variant which will minimise the risks of it becoming widespread.
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:51 - Jun 10 with 1665 views | bluelagos |
The link you posted says...
"As soon as you arrive at your place of quarantine you should, as far as possible, avoid contact with other people in the place where you’re quarantining to reduce the risk of spreading COVID-19."
It also says
"Rules for the people you’re staying with
The people you’re staying with do not need to quarantine, unless:
they travelled with you
you or someone in the place where you’re staying develop symptoms of COVID-19
you get a positive test result for your day 2 or day 8 test"
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So I think my point stands. Plenty of scenarios where people follow the rules and yet the virus spreads. |  |
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:52 - Jun 10 with 1665 views | footers |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:38 - Jun 10 by Sarge |
What a bizarre outburst to your own shιtty comment. Only seems to be one person trivialising mental health here and that’s you. Who are you even replying to given that you’re the first comment on this thread? |
Just sick of people using 'mental health' as a reason for their basic bitch selfishness.
And I was replying to my downvoters, you included. |  |
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:54 - Jun 10 with 1662 views | footers |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:35 - Jun 10 by GaryCooper |
What is depressing, is the love of divineness, propagated by those who hold bigoted views.
Take your own advice, seek serious medical help, I feel you will benefit. |
Given you should be on some sort of watchlist for domestic extremists, I'll give your advice a hard pass, cheers though, Gal! | |
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:54 - Jun 10 with 1657 views | bluelagos |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:41 - Jun 10 by Ely_Blue |
What I was replying to was that even if a country is on the red list it is relatively easy to flout the rules on returning from a red country you have visited as it’s a self declaration |
I am not denying some people will have flouted the rules. But your contention seems to be that the reason the Indian/Delta variant has seeded is due to people flouting the rules rather than the rules not being of adequate strength.
I think you're wrong. And there's no harm us having different opinions :-) | |
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 18:02 - Jun 10 with 1632 views | GaryCooper |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:54 - Jun 10 by footers |
Given you should be on some sort of watchlist for domestic extremists, I'll give your advice a hard pass, cheers though, Gal! |
Ummm, I suppose your petulance stems from being majorly responsible for the tory government, the sleepless nights from backing your man must be hurting. |  | | |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 18:08 - Jun 10 with 1611 views | footers |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 18:02 - Jun 10 by GaryCooper |
Ummm, I suppose your petulance stems from being majorly responsible for the tory government, the sleepless nights from backing your man must be hurting. |
Not quite, lad!
But keep trying - it's quite funny. | |
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 18:13 - Jun 10 with 1598 views | Sarge |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:52 - Jun 10 by footers |
Just sick of people using 'mental health' as a reason for their basic bitch selfishness.
And I was replying to my downvoters, you included. |
Well I’m sure you’re far more qualified to tell people what’s going on in their own heads than they are. I don’t know who you think you are to decide what’s good for other people’s mental health and what isn’t but if it was directed at specific people from other threads then maybe it would have been better placed in those threads. |  | | |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 18:25 - Jun 10 with 1580 views | footers |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 18:13 - Jun 10 by Sarge |
Well I’m sure you’re far more qualified to tell people what’s going on in their own heads than they are. I don’t know who you think you are to decide what’s good for other people’s mental health and what isn’t but if it was directed at specific people from other threads then maybe it would have been better placed in those threads. |
It wasn't. But if you find a psychiatrist who tells you you need to go to football games or the pub, I'd be asking for a refund.
As I said, mental health is a very serious concern, not something you pull as an ace card to get whatever silly whim you have. 130k people have died in this country alone. Any actual mental health issues aren't addressed by going to football or the pub so am sick of some lame excuses using it as a get out card. | |
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 18:31 - Jun 10 with 1565 views | SpruceMoose |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:25 - Jun 10 by footers |
Downvote me all you want, you bunch of planks, but this is exactly how y'all come across when you use football/going to the pub/going dogging/visiting a steam rally as a Well Important Fing What I Need To Do Because Mental Health. You have no other excuse aside from minor things being an inconvenience so no wonder you do don't reply properly.
Stop using mental health as a sick ace in the hole for your selfishness. Mental health crises are very serious things indeed and aren't contained, controlled or cured by any of the above - real help should always be sought. If you have had or are suffering from extreme mental health issues, you should talk to your GP, call a non-profit such as the Samaritans or pay for private advice from qualified professionals.
We're at the tail end of the pandemic and some of you seem to have learnt nothing. All about you and your very specific wants, innit. Depressing.
P.S. I know this post isn't going to be at all popular but IDGAF. Surely all the tellin' it like it is crowd won't mind a bit of that though. |
Strong post Footers me old son! I hope the tone doesn't put people off the actual idea behind it because while I think you may have delivered your message with a wild lunge, I do think that there is a nugget of truth at the core of it.
My experience since last March has certainly been one of seeing all kinds of people who would usually be the first to sneer and mock the mental health of others (snowflakes, libs, do gooder etc.) suddenly become extremely concerned with their own mental health the second there was the slightest limitation put on what they could and couldn't do.
You know the kind of person I mean, the kind that everyone of of us here has seen, read or heard about laughing at the idea of people struggling with their sexuality, gender, body, disability, illness, phobia, depression and so on. Almost overnight not being able to go to the pub or on holiday was a mental health crisis that deserved far more sympathy than they'd ever shown anyone else.
I'm not saying that behaviour applies to anyone on here, but I wonder if it is something you have also experienced in the real world leading to the frustrated tone of your post. If so, I can certainly sympathise. [Post edited 10 Jun 2021 18:34]
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 18:38 - Jun 10 with 1550 views | footers |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 18:31 - Jun 10 by SpruceMoose |
Strong post Footers me old son! I hope the tone doesn't put people off the actual idea behind it because while I think you may have delivered your message with a wild lunge, I do think that there is a nugget of truth at the core of it.
My experience since last March has certainly been one of seeing all kinds of people who would usually be the first to sneer and mock the mental health of others (snowflakes, libs, do gooder etc.) suddenly become extremely concerned with their own mental health the second there was the slightest limitation put on what they could and couldn't do.
You know the kind of person I mean, the kind that everyone of of us here has seen, read or heard about laughing at the idea of people struggling with their sexuality, gender, body, disability, illness, phobia, depression and so on. Almost overnight not being able to go to the pub or on holiday was a mental health crisis that deserved far more sympathy than they'd ever shown anyone else.
I'm not saying that behaviour applies to anyone on here, but I wonder if it is something you have also experienced in the real world leading to the frustrated tone of your post. If so, I can certainly sympathise. [Post edited 10 Jun 2021 18:34]
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That was it in a nutshell, Sprucey, my oldest fruit. Ta for that :) | |
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 18:41 - Jun 10 with 1543 views | SpruceMoose |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 18:38 - Jun 10 by footers |
That was it in a nutshell, Sprucey, my oldest fruit. Ta for that :) |
Like I said, it is certainly something I have noticed first hand, and is something I have personally found extremely frustrating because For many it is entirely performative. It hasn't come along with a side order of empathy for others. People still dealing with other forms of mental health issue can expect no big change in attitude toward them now or in the future. They will still be stigmatised, often by the people now asking for special treatment due to their own mental health.
It has often felt like a kind of appropriation to be honest. Especially now people are still talking about it despite their being very few limitations of what we can and can't do. I'm all up for helping people through their difficult times, but not so much when people are all take and no give. [Post edited 10 Jun 2021 18:43]
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 19:18 - Jun 10 with 1485 views | Freddies_Ears |
So, if we had controlled our borders, Covid rates would be near zero and we'd be having one hell of a party during the Euros. | | | |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 19:22 - Jun 10 with 1487 views | lowhouseblue |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 17:25 - Jun 10 by footers |
Downvote me all you want, you bunch of planks, but this is exactly how y'all come across when you use football/going to the pub/going dogging/visiting a steam rally as a Well Important Fing What I Need To Do Because Mental Health. You have no other excuse aside from minor things being an inconvenience so no wonder you do don't reply properly.
Stop using mental health as a sick ace in the hole for your selfishness. Mental health crises are very serious things indeed and aren't contained, controlled or cured by any of the above - real help should always be sought. If you have had or are suffering from extreme mental health issues, you should talk to your GP, call a non-profit such as the Samaritans or pay for private advice from qualified professionals.
We're at the tail end of the pandemic and some of you seem to have learnt nothing. All about you and your very specific wants, innit. Depressing.
P.S. I know this post isn't going to be at all popular but IDGAF. Surely all the tellin' it like it is crowd won't mind a bit of that though. |
jeez i agree with you. current media discussion muddies 'mental health' so that now it involves anything that someone doesn't like. 'mental illness' has become 'mental health', has become 'wellbeing', has become 'happiness'. in so doing it all distracts from those who have life altering medical conditions. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 19:42 - Jun 10 with 1459 views | Sarge |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 18:25 - Jun 10 by footers |
It wasn't. But if you find a psychiatrist who tells you you need to go to football games or the pub, I'd be asking for a refund.
As I said, mental health is a very serious concern, not something you pull as an ace card to get whatever silly whim you have. 130k people have died in this country alone. Any actual mental health issues aren't addressed by going to football or the pub so am sick of some lame excuses using it as a get out card. |
Well I’m going to have to disagree. I’m not someone who has been plagued with severe mental health problems (or mental well-being if the term matters which it doesn’t) in the past but I’m not ashamed to admit how dark things have got over the last year, in fact I’ve posted it on here a while back mentioning that there have been 20+ occasions since last March that I contemplated ending it all. I muted certain posters on here and briefly deleted my account because this place was just fuelling it for a while.
I can’t tell you how beneficial it would have been to have been able to go to football with my family, go out anywhere, or just have done anything remotely normal rather than be stuck at home alone with my thoughts and unavoidable doom all around me.
If it wasn’t directed at anyone on here then who was it aimed at, because sure some people are probably taking the piss because they want a jolly but you don’t know what’s going on in most other people’s heads and what might help them. A sweeping statement that boo hoo you’re just crying cos you can’t get pissed helps nobody. There are plenty of people like that on Twitter, go challenge them. I do almost every day. | | | |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 20:07 - Jun 10 with 1429 views | footers |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 19:42 - Jun 10 by Sarge |
Well I’m going to have to disagree. I’m not someone who has been plagued with severe mental health problems (or mental well-being if the term matters which it doesn’t) in the past but I’m not ashamed to admit how dark things have got over the last year, in fact I’ve posted it on here a while back mentioning that there have been 20+ occasions since last March that I contemplated ending it all. I muted certain posters on here and briefly deleted my account because this place was just fuelling it for a while.
I can’t tell you how beneficial it would have been to have been able to go to football with my family, go out anywhere, or just have done anything remotely normal rather than be stuck at home alone with my thoughts and unavoidable doom all around me.
If it wasn’t directed at anyone on here then who was it aimed at, because sure some people are probably taking the piss because they want a jolly but you don’t know what’s going on in most other people’s heads and what might help them. A sweeping statement that boo hoo you’re just crying cos you can’t get pissed helps nobody. There are plenty of people like that on Twitter, go challenge them. I do almost every day. |
Erm, sorry to pick you up on something that is the most delicate of all, but: "there have been 20+ occasions since last March that I contemplated ending it all." This is very concerning, mate. Hate me, don't talk to me, don't care about TWTD but please, please, please talk to someone professional about this. Please.
I understand how much missing football and gigs and all the fun stuff in life has had a negative impact, I really do - and I bloody love it too!- but some of this is way OTT and, to be honest, some of it seems like being a bit of a pansy.
What do I want? I want all of us to just get on with it, accept the current lockdowns, get the virus under control and understand a better world is jut a few months away... but only if we're all patient! | |
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 22:47 - Jun 10 with 1347 views | footers |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 19:22 - Jun 10 by lowhouseblue |
jeez i agree with you. current media discussion muddies 'mental health' so that now it involves anything that someone doesn't like. 'mental illness' has become 'mental health', has become 'wellbeing', has become 'happiness'. in so doing it all distracts from those who have life altering medical conditions. |
You agree with basically the same points I made in an earlier post that you downvoted? Ok, you weird, dessicated pillock.
Wait to hear if Brendan O'Neill has a different opinion in the morning or not and get back to me. | |
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| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 03:09 - Jun 11 with 1274 views | urbanblue |
| Delta variant now 91% of cases in the UK on 16:54 - Jun 10 by hype313 |
Australia's about to get hit hard, and without a strong vaccine rollout they are vulnerable.
He added that the strain is currently spreading at a rate never seen before.
The Acting Premier said: "In the last day, we've seen more evidence we're dealing with a highly infectious strain of the virus, a variant of concern, which is running faster than we have ever recorded.
"We have identified in excess of 10,000 primary and secondary contacts who will need to either quarantine, or test and isolate, and that number will continue to grow and change.
"Our public health experts' primary concern is how fast this variant is moving. |
Words ...
... the Victorian Government have been engaging in a total scaremongering campaign to justify another draconian lock down along with the appalling behaviour of the police in enforcing it. Also, covering their arses after failures in their HQ and Test and Trace systems.
The day before last there were 23,000 tests and 4 positives. Yesterday, 17,300 tests a n 0 (Zero) cases. Australia is not being hit hard ... yet!
There is a lot of misery in Melbourne at the moment .... |  | | |
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