| The confusing bit about Dobra 07:49 - Jun 27 with 4411 views | Bluefish |
How has he been promoted up so soon? They haven't really done anything yet |  |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 07:57 - Jun 27 with 3643 views | Churchman |
Maybe his expressed desire to work for his place, his fitness, mind games by Cook to ‘reset’ one or two of them?
Regardless, I suspect the attitude and fitness of one or two others relegated to the stiffs will be closely looked at and they too will be invited to the first team fold if they show the right stuff.
All speculation, but professional football is a strange old world. |  | | |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 08:01 - Jun 27 with 3626 views | Bluefish |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 07:57 - Jun 27 by Churchman |
Maybe his expressed desire to work for his place, his fitness, mind games by Cook to ‘reset’ one or two of them?
Regardless, I suspect the attitude and fitness of one or two others relegated to the stiffs will be closely looked at and they too will be invited to the first team fold if they show the right stuff.
All speculation, but professional football is a strange old world. |
To bomb squad it should be serious and to promote up should be a big deal to convince your worth. This one sees odd, shouldn't be there in the 1st place and hadn't had to do much to get out either | |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 08:03 - Jun 27 with 3599 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Maybe he's come back early? Maybe he's been hitting the gym? |  |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 08:04 - Jun 27 with 3600 views | stopmoaning |
He’s clearly good enough on a footballing level so wouldn’t have to prove that. So I imagine he would have gone to speak to Cook and impressed him with what he said, so has been given a chance. |  | | |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 08:12 - Jun 27 with 3528 views | Fixed_It |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 08:01 - Jun 27 by Bluefish |
To bomb squad it should be serious and to promote up should be a big deal to convince your worth. This one sees odd, shouldn't be there in the 1st place and hadn't had to do much to get out either |
Probably just showing them that there is a way back if they show the right commitment. Good management in that the incentive is there - now up to others to show a willingness to put the graft in. [Post edited 27 Jun 2021 8:14]
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 08:13 - Jun 27 with 3535 views | PhilTWTD |
From what I gather he was promoted before he had done anything with the U23s. Whether he'd already been in for anything I don't know, but perhaps his attitude - expressing his determination to get in the first team - influenced PC. |  | | |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 08:39 - Jun 27 with 3392 views | Wacko |
Some players came back before training officially started |  |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 08:46 - Jun 27 with 3345 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
Can someone please tell me where I can find these First Team and Under-23 training squad lists. I must have missed them somehow... |  |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 08:51 - Jun 27 with 3316 views | BryanPlug |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:10 - Jun 27 with 3211 views | Stadiumofdark |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 08:13 - Jun 27 by PhilTWTD |
From what I gather he was promoted before he had done anything with the U23s. Whether he'd already been in for anything I don't know, but perhaps his attitude - expressing his determination to get in the first team - influenced PC. |
Maybe PC muddled him up with Nolan. Or Donacien. Or Holy?
Or maybe he's learnt to talk Scouse? or dipping in bins |  | | |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:13 - Jun 27 with 3186 views | Chrisd |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 08:03 - Jun 27 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Maybe he's come back early? Maybe he's been hitting the gym? |
I was thinking the same. | |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:18 - Jun 27 with 3139 views | WD19 |
Whilst his attitude seems to have been very very good, it is potentially just as likely that we have missed out on someone Cook had in mind to replace him, so now we need him. We will probably never know. |  | | |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:29 - Jun 27 with 3062 views | HighgateBlue |
Maybe we've failed to get one of our targets, and Cook has realised how few players he has? |  | | |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:34 - Jun 27 with 3022 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:29 - Jun 27 by HighgateBlue |
Maybe we've failed to get one of our targets, and Cook has realised how few players he has? |
Uparrowed by mistake. I think yours and WD19's theories don't hold water when we're still in June.
I know some seem to want to believe Cook's a bad man and/or useless but the most likely reason Dobra's back in the fold is he's shown the right attitude in some way. I don't see why it's necessary to look any further than that. | |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:36 - Jun 27 with 3009 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:13 - Jun 27 by Chrisd |
I was thinking the same. |
Cook bemoaned no-one coming in for extra training/gym work shortly after he arrived, so if you were a player wanting to impress the new boss then you wouldn't have to be the brightest to see this way would be an easy win.
The worry is, why are others in the U23's not busting a gut/showing the right attitude? | |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:38 - Jun 27 with 2998 views | Bluefish |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:34 - Jun 27 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Uparrowed by mistake. I think yours and WD19's theories don't hold water when we're still in June.
I know some seem to want to believe Cook's a bad man and/or useless but the most likely reason Dobra's back in the fold is he's shown the right attitude in some way. I don't see why it's necessary to look any further than that. |
I don't think a single poster has implied that about Cook. It is more that others haven't learned their lesson of going all messiah again and blubbing when others questions some decisions | |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:40 - Jun 27 with 2982 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:38 - Jun 27 by Bluefish |
I don't think a single poster has implied that about Cook. It is more that others haven't learned their lesson of going all messiah again and blubbing when others questions some decisions |
I don't think a single poster has implied he's the messiah or are blubbing when others questions some decisions. | |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:41 - Jun 27 with 2968 views | Bluefish |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:40 - Jun 27 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I don't think a single poster has implied he's the messiah or are blubbing when others questions some decisions. |
You have | |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 10:02 - Jun 27 with 2863 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:36 - Jun 27 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Cook bemoaned no-one coming in for extra training/gym work shortly after he arrived, so if you were a player wanting to impress the new boss then you wouldn't have to be the brightest to see this way would be an easy win.
The worry is, why are others in the U23's not busting a gut/showing the right attitude? |
"The worry is, why are others in the U23's not busting a gut/showing the right attitude?"
Careful, plenty on this board still loosing their minds at the suggestion that our kids might be over hyped or have a bad attitude. [Post edited 27 Jun 2021 10:03]
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 10:15 - Jun 27 with 2781 views | Guthrum |
Perhaps he knocked on Cook's door and asked?
We only get random fragments of the whole picture, those bits which make it into the public domain. Very hard to judge Cook's real thoughts and Dobra's actual attitude from just that. |  |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 10:31 - Jun 27 with 2713 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 09:41 - Jun 27 by Bluefish |
You have |
haha, ok, where? | |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 10:52 - Jun 27 with 2632 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 10:15 - Jun 27 by Guthrum |
Perhaps he knocked on Cook's door and asked?
We only get random fragments of the whole picture, those bits which make it into the public domain. Very hard to judge Cook's real thoughts and Dobra's actual attitude from just that. |
Dobra has been on international duty. Isn't it normal for such players to be told that they may have an extra few days leave before reporting for pre-season? Perhaps Dobra has declined the extra days off and his enthusiasm, coupled with decent performances for Albania U-23s, has impressed Cook. This suggestion is, of course, pure speculation. | |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 11:14 - Jun 27 with 2545 views | textbackup |
At a guess I’m saying he’s come back fitter and stronger than he left.
Smashed the bleep test or whatever they do, and Cook has gone ‘get in there little man that’s what I wanted to see now get ya ar5e in this dressing room’ |  |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 11:20 - Jun 27 with 2524 views | wkj |
I wouldn't be surprised if Cook was testing him with some tough love. He's expressed desire to be here, and probably has taken his summer break very seriously. |  |
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| The confusing bit about Dobra on 11:49 - Jun 27 with 2469 views | Freddies_Ears |
| The confusing bit about Dobra on 08:13 - Jun 27 by PhilTWTD |
From what I gather he was promoted before he had done anything with the U23s. Whether he'd already been in for anything I don't know, but perhaps his attitude - expressing his determination to get in the first team - influenced PC. |
The cynic in me wondered if we had failed to land a target in his position... Several of the signings so far seem to be upgrades on players who have left or are about to leave. | | | |
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