| German girl at Wembley 20:19 - Jul 1 with 15962 views | Wicksy |
Wouldn't normally post this sort of thing - and apologies if somebody else already has - but I think this worthwhile if you can spare a few pounds.
https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/litte-girl?utm_term=Ryx2bKemq
I was aware of the Twitter posts but hadn't seen them - there's a link to them in the Just Giving page. Profoundly depressing.
It may be a futile gesture but it made me feel a little better to do SOMETHING to try and demonstrate that we're not all *rseholes
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| German girl at Wembley on 09:26 - Jul 2 with 1091 views | Lord_Lucan |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:09 - Jul 2 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Footage all provided by UEFA.
Did you notice during the Ukraine v Sweden game how often the camera went to 'pretty' blonde haired Swedish girls? |
Well that's more like it. The Brazilians and Dutch used to hand pick large groups of stunners and place them in the crowd for the cameras.
Up to around Italia 80 Euros the cameras would always film any crowd trouble as it was happening but then there was a decision to stop this as it was seen as glorifying it. I think there should be a similar directive about filming distressed children.
Let's concentrate on Swedish, Brazilian and Dutch tits - although my favourite are the Perurto Rican girls - perfect in every way
You make a great point about Norwich fans crying, I seem to remember a few getting laughed at on occasion, particularly when Fulham thrashed them. [Post edited 2 Jul 2021 9:27]
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| German girl at Wembley on 09:28 - Jul 2 with 1082 views | noggin |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:19 - Jul 2 by SouperJim |
How you've read through this thread and then posted that is beyond me. What are you on about?
Meanwhile you continue to chuck insults around directed at anyone who doesn't agree with you. Self aware much? |
"Give your arsehole a rest."
"What a load of sh1te"
"ridiculous"
"People have lost their fooking minds"
"Worlds gone nuts. We saw you cry on the tele 🎶" |  |
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| You've gone a bit strange lately Noggers.... on 09:30 - Jul 2 with 1070 views | noggin |
| You've gone a bit strange lately Noggers.... on 09:23 - Jul 2 by Bloots |
....you seem to be getting very angry about everything.
I hope everything is OK.
Cheer up. |
I couldn't be any less angry, tbh. | |
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| German girl at Wembley on 09:35 - Jul 2 with 1038 views | TractorCam |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:28 - Jul 2 by noggin |
"Give your arsehole a rest."
"What a load of sh1te"
"ridiculous"
"People have lost their fooking minds"
"Worlds gone nuts. We saw you cry on the tele 🎶" |
Are you saying all of those come under the "nasty fookers" category? The couple of posts which called the girl a nazi and a slut are the nasty fookers, every other comment towards the girl and this fundraiser is light-hearted.
If there is a Ukraine fan crying tomorrow there will be cheers around the country just like on Tuesday, or if an England fan is seen crying there will be cheers in Ukraine and definitely Germany. That's football. |  |
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| German girl at Wembley on 09:37 - Jul 2 with 1026 views | SouperJim |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:28 - Jul 2 by noggin |
"Give your arsehole a rest."
"What a load of sh1te"
"ridiculous"
"People have lost their fooking minds"
"Worlds gone nuts. We saw you cry on the tele 🎶" |
Only one of those is directed at OP, and it's incredibly mild at best, the rest are people being critical of the fundraiser. |  |
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| German girl at Wembley on 09:40 - Jul 2 with 1008 views | noggin |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:37 - Jul 2 by SouperJim |
Only one of those is directed at OP, and it's incredibly mild at best, the rest are people being critical of the fundraiser. |
Ah so it isn't Wicksy's fundraiser? That'll teach me for not opening the link. Apologies. | |
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| German girl at Wembley on 09:40 - Jul 2 with 1006 views | Wicksy |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:28 - Jul 2 by noggin |
"Give your arsehole a rest."
"What a load of sh1te"
"ridiculous"
"People have lost their fooking minds"
"Worlds gone nuts. We saw you cry on the tele 🎶" |
Appreciate the support.
A bit taken aback by some of the reactions tbh | |
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| German girl at Wembley on 09:42 - Jul 2 with 993 views | noggin |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:35 - Jul 2 by TractorCam |
Are you saying all of those come under the "nasty fookers" category? The couple of posts which called the girl a nazi and a slut are the nasty fookers, every other comment towards the girl and this fundraiser is light-hearted.
If there is a Ukraine fan crying tomorrow there will be cheers around the country just like on Tuesday, or if an England fan is seen crying there will be cheers in Ukraine and definitely Germany. That's football. |
"If there is a Ukraine fan crying tomorrow there will be cheers around the country just like on Tuesday, or if an England fan is seen crying there will be cheers in Ukraine and definitely Germany. That's football."
Slightly different when it's a young child, don't you think? | |
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| German girl at Wembley on 09:53 - Jul 2 with 964 views | TractorCam |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:42 - Jul 2 by noggin |
"If there is a Ukraine fan crying tomorrow there will be cheers around the country just like on Tuesday, or if an England fan is seen crying there will be cheers in Ukraine and definitely Germany. That's football."
Slightly different when it's a young child, don't you think? |
If at any point there is a young England fan crying because we've lost, I can tell you for fact there will be rapturous cheers in Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Germany and whoever we're playing who would be beating us.
Two final words which i've already used, that's football. | |
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| German girl at Wembley on 09:54 - Jul 2 with 963 views | N2_Blue |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:42 - Jul 2 by noggin |
"If there is a Ukraine fan crying tomorrow there will be cheers around the country just like on Tuesday, or if an England fan is seen crying there will be cheers in Ukraine and definitely Germany. That's football."
Slightly different when it's a young child, don't you think? |
The online abuse from the Twitter trolls is disgusting and actually quite sickening.
However a young child crying at a football match because her team is losing happens across the country every Saturday afternoon and across the world. In fatc may of us will have been there.
Obviously most games aren't televised but even those games that are you often see upset kids, its like a rite of passage....often a significant proportion of away fans will seize the opportunity of singing something along the lines 'of we can see you crying' they don't tend to be selective on age.
This fundraiser is rather strange. Call out the sick trolls and offer support by way of supportive messages to the girl and her father but putting together a fundraiser is a little bit odd and I'd be surprised if the girl's family didn't also think so. |  |
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| German girl at Wembley on 10:00 - Jul 2 with 944 views | noggin |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:54 - Jul 2 by N2_Blue |
The online abuse from the Twitter trolls is disgusting and actually quite sickening.
However a young child crying at a football match because her team is losing happens across the country every Saturday afternoon and across the world. In fatc may of us will have been there.
Obviously most games aren't televised but even those games that are you often see upset kids, its like a rite of passage....often a significant proportion of away fans will seize the opportunity of singing something along the lines 'of we can see you crying' they don't tend to be selective on age.
This fundraiser is rather strange. Call out the sick trolls and offer support by way of supportive messages to the girl and her father but putting together a fundraiser is a little bit odd and I'd be surprised if the girl's family didn't also think so. |
Fair enough, we'll agree to disagree. I don't think an upset 7 year old girl is fair game for humiliating. To me, humiliating a 7 year old is much more strange than setting up a fundraiser. I'll leave it at that. [Post edited 2 Jul 2021 10:05]
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| German girl at Wembley on 10:08 - Jul 2 with 935 views | N2_Blue |
| German girl at Wembley on 10:00 - Jul 2 by noggin |
Fair enough, we'll agree to disagree. I don't think an upset 7 year old girl is fair game for humiliating. To me, humiliating a 7 year old is much more strange than setting up a fundraiser. I'll leave it at that. [Post edited 2 Jul 2021 10:05]
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Noggs, I don't think the cheering of the girl's upset is in particularly good taste and personally i wouldn't mock a young child at football or for anything for that matter...it's why i said a significant proportion of fans, not all...but i think this has gone a bit overboard.
The issue here is Twitter and online trolls who target anyone rather than anything else. Imagine if a fundraiser was set up for every victim of online abuse. | |
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| German girl at Wembley on 10:26 - Jul 2 with 899 views | Lord_Lucan |
| German girl at Wembley on 10:08 - Jul 2 by N2_Blue |
Noggs, I don't think the cheering of the girl's upset is in particularly good taste and personally i wouldn't mock a young child at football or for anything for that matter...it's why i said a significant proportion of fans, not all...but i think this has gone a bit overboard.
The issue here is Twitter and online trolls who target anyone rather than anything else. Imagine if a fundraiser was set up for every victim of online abuse. |
I think the attention this has all generated by social media has made things worse, it's almost as if people haven't got more important things to think about.
I have been trying to put myself into the situation of someone in the crowd. On seeing the girl on the screen I would probably have given out a sympathetic "Awwww" followed by a slight chuckle and then got on with my day.
I have also been thinking about the booing of national anthems - which is not just an English thing. Whilst I personally wouldn't do it I didn't really have a strong view on it, a sort of couldn't care less attitude. I have though changed my mind, I have decided it has no place in the game and is disrespectful.
I still don't see a problem with the songs though, that really is pantomime. I was at the first new Wembley game against Germany and the Gerries were singing a German version of Three Lions, I don't know what they were singing but I thought it must be quite funny. | |
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| German girl at Wembley on 10:33 - Jul 2 with 868 views | gainsboroughblue |
Social media ensures that everything just spirals out of complete control and reality. With that still photograph, the young girl is now the unwitting subject of firstly, indefensible photoshopping and online abuse, and now the subject of an embarrassing fundraiser. There will probably be a picture of her in 20, 30 years time in a 'This is what she looks like now' piece of click bait.
30 minutes after that picture, she was probably all smiles, tucking into a Big Mac and thick shake and moved on with her life. |  |
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| German girl at Wembley on 10:33 - Jul 2 with 866 views | noggin |
| German girl at Wembley on 10:26 - Jul 2 by Lord_Lucan |
I think the attention this has all generated by social media has made things worse, it's almost as if people haven't got more important things to think about.
I have been trying to put myself into the situation of someone in the crowd. On seeing the girl on the screen I would probably have given out a sympathetic "Awwww" followed by a slight chuckle and then got on with my day.
I have also been thinking about the booing of national anthems - which is not just an English thing. Whilst I personally wouldn't do it I didn't really have a strong view on it, a sort of couldn't care less attitude. I have though changed my mind, I have decided it has no place in the game and is disrespectful.
I still don't see a problem with the songs though, that really is pantomime. I was at the first new Wembley game against Germany and the Gerries were singing a German version of Three Lions, I don't know what they were singing but I thought it must be quite funny. |
I don't like the songs about the war being sung at football. I'm pretty sure the majority of WW2 veterans would find it in bad taste and those singing have no idea of the horrors faced by both sides in the wars. | |
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| German girl at Wembley on 10:38 - Jul 2 with 850 views | Blueastheycome |
| German girl at Wembley on 10:00 - Jul 2 by noggin |
Fair enough, we'll agree to disagree. I don't think an upset 7 year old girl is fair game for humiliating. To me, humiliating a 7 year old is much more strange than setting up a fundraiser. I'll leave it at that. [Post edited 2 Jul 2021 10:05]
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Wasnt it just four (very vile, stupid and sickening) tweets. Would her parents even know that four separate bellends in England sent these tweets? and more to the point even if I had found out that 4 low life idiots tweeted about my kid like that (which would have been very unlikely that I would find out), I'd be more annoyed at the bloke setting up a fundraiser to perpetuate national Anglo/German attention to it. [Post edited 2 Jul 2021 10:42]
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| German girl at Wembley on 10:47 - Jul 2 with 812 views | SitfcB |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:42 - Jul 2 by noggin |
"If there is a Ukraine fan crying tomorrow there will be cheers around the country just like on Tuesday, or if an England fan is seen crying there will be cheers in Ukraine and definitely Germany. That's football."
Slightly different when it's a young child, don't you think? |
Not different at all, it’s even funnier. |  |
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| German girl at Wembley on 10:49 - Jul 2 with 805 views | SouperJim |
| German girl at Wembley on 10:38 - Jul 2 by Blueastheycome |
Wasnt it just four (very vile, stupid and sickening) tweets. Would her parents even know that four separate bellends in England sent these tweets? and more to the point even if I had found out that 4 low life idiots tweeted about my kid like that (which would have been very unlikely that I would find out), I'd be more annoyed at the bloke setting up a fundraiser to perpetuate national Anglo/German attention to it. [Post edited 2 Jul 2021 10:42]
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It does appear to have been just four, particularly horrible, tweets which as you say, would have disappeared into the ether if it was for well-intentioned anti-trolls.
The fundraiser currently stands at over £8,500 and rising.
The world has gone mad. | |
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| German girl at Wembley on 10:50 - Jul 2 with 795 views | noggin |
| German girl at Wembley on 10:47 - Jul 2 by SitfcB |
Not different at all, it’s even funnier. |
You're just a child yourself Sitters. | |
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| German girl at Wembley on 12:00 - Jul 2 with 731 views | rickw |
I think the person who set this crowdfunding thing was well intentioned, just wanted to show not all English are ar$eholes, not sure what's going to happen with all that money though now!!
I think:
Booing when the opposition have the ball - definitely, it helps make an intimidating atmosphere
Booing a national anthem is disrespectful to that nation
Cheering when a child cries - then you're just a bad person |  |
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| German girl at Wembley on 12:04 - Jul 2 with 720 views | noggin |
| German girl at Wembley on 12:00 - Jul 2 by rickw |
I think the person who set this crowdfunding thing was well intentioned, just wanted to show not all English are ar$eholes, not sure what's going to happen with all that money though now!!
I think:
Booing when the opposition have the ball - definitely, it helps make an intimidating atmosphere
Booing a national anthem is disrespectful to that nation
Cheering when a child cries - then you're just a bad person |
Exactly. | |
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| German girl at Wembley on 12:06 - Jul 2 with 711 views | SouperJim |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:02 - Jul 2 by TractorCam |
Thanks for down voting my really nasty posts. Checked his twitter this morning and he's still tagging many celebrities asking for money, it's at £7,000 when he wanted £500, and yet hasn't posted a single update how his progress in tracking this family is.
Yesterday I thought he was just a snowflake, now i'm convinced he's a huge scammer. |
People had started to suggest this in the facebook-linked comments thread on justgiving. The comments thread has now been mysteriously closed with no word from the fundraiser.
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| German girl at Wembley on 12:31 - Jul 2 with 681 views | Parky |
| German girl at Wembley on 09:05 - Jul 2 by noggin |
Or maybe you're the snowflake for wetting your pants over all this....... |
You’ve cried and claimed to be offended by almost everything England fans have done this tournament, definitely you the snowflake. |  | | |
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