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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight 23:31 - Jul 11 with 14445 viewsunstableblue

We need to start looking at ourselves after this tournament, as a country, as a national team fan base

Southgate and the players were a beacon of good values and standing up for a good movement against racism

Then throughout we’ve had the ugliness of booing of the knee of government monsters and MPs backing those who booed

We still have this tabloid and right wing media that link our national sport to jingoism and xenophobia

We are a laughing stock under this government and these scenes tonight just are a national embarrassment - alongside booing other national anthems

We are better than this

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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:20 - Jul 12 with 1369 viewsPrideOfTheEast

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:00 - Jul 12 by textbackup

"One of the striking things witnessed yesterday was the lack of non white 'fans', inside and outside Wembley and elsewhere."

from the photo you clearly see non white folk

thats all i have for you.

ta


And to add to that, having been following England on and off since the early 2000s, this tournament has without doubt seen a massive increase in BAME representation. I went to every England game except the first and Rome, each time I was sat next to a non-white person.

I can’t be bothered to read back this thread so I’m not sure what the overall point trying to be made is, but looking at the pictures on my phone from last night there’s plenty of representation.
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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:23 - Jul 12 with 1355 viewsyesjohn99

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:20 - Jul 12 by PrideOfTheEast

And to add to that, having been following England on and off since the early 2000s, this tournament has without doubt seen a massive increase in BAME representation. I went to every England game except the first and Rome, each time I was sat next to a non-white person.

I can’t be bothered to read back this thread so I’m not sure what the overall point trying to be made is, but looking at the pictures on my phone from last night there’s plenty of representation.
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Oh no, you’re risking some name calling from Harry!
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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:26 - Jul 12 with 1345 viewstextbackup

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:20 - Jul 12 by PrideOfTheEast

And to add to that, having been following England on and off since the early 2000s, this tournament has without doubt seen a massive increase in BAME representation. I went to every England game except the first and Rome, each time I was sat next to a non-white person.

I can’t be bothered to read back this thread so I’m not sure what the overall point trying to be made is, but looking at the pictures on my phone from last night there’s plenty of representation.
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I was just saying the same a week back, i was really taken back on the germany game (first time at new Wembley for an England game) groups and groups of English Indians, going absolutely nuts outside the ground. was a really nice thing to see, especially after the BLM stuff last year.

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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:28 - Jul 12 with 1335 viewsMullet

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 20:23 - Jul 12 by footers

This is one of the strangest arguments I've seen on TWTD.


I once had someone tell me pretty ifollow and that I was wrong about a goal at a game I’d just got back from and they weren’t there. But this….. wow.

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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:31 - Jul 12 with 1330 viewsPrideOfTheEast

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:26 - Jul 12 by textbackup

I was just saying the same a week back, i was really taken back on the germany game (first time at new Wembley for an England game) groups and groups of English Indians, going absolutely nuts outside the ground. was a really nice thing to see, especially after the BLM stuff last year.


It’s brilliant. Good amount of female representation too, including plenty with Indian heritage who in my experience are often massive fans of sport.
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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:31 - Jul 12 with 1330 viewsXYZ

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:26 - Jul 12 by textbackup

I was just saying the same a week back, i was really taken back on the germany game (first time at new Wembley for an England game) groups and groups of English Indians, going absolutely nuts outside the ground. was a really nice thing to see, especially after the BLM stuff last year.


Just for the record; I've no skin in this game.

I specifically noticed, and appreciated, a much more noticeable presence of minorities present at all games on the TV. I assumed it was a response to the players taking the knee.

I appreciate Harry's take on much, but I think he's picked the wrong hill here.
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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:36 - Jul 12 with 1313 viewsbrazil1982

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:31 - Jul 12 by XYZ

Just for the record; I've no skin in this game.

I specifically noticed, and appreciated, a much more noticeable presence of minorities present at all games on the TV. I assumed it was a response to the players taking the knee.

I appreciate Harry's take on much, but I think he's picked the wrong hill here.


Lots of women too but I dont have forensic evidence of that so perhaps I'm a big fibber.
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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:41 - Jul 12 with 1293 viewsbrazil1982

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:26 - Jul 12 by textbackup

I was just saying the same a week back, i was really taken back on the germany game (first time at new Wembley for an England game) groups and groups of English Indians, going absolutely nuts outside the ground. was a really nice thing to see, especially after the BLM stuff last year.


If there are no photos though, someone on here will become very angry and rather aggressive.
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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 22:43 - Jul 12 with 1222 viewsNewcyBlue

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 18:17 - Jul 12 by HARRY10

should we have a look at what I said

"One of the striking things witnessed yesterday was the lack of non white 'fans', inside and outside Wembley and elsewhere. "

The last word in the sentence should be a big clue.........................even for someone like you.


“Someone like you”

Now, now. Texters is a decent bloke. I would put money on his first hand experience being correct.

It’s a very weird argument to have Harry.

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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 23:20 - Jul 12 with 1178 viewsjeera

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 22:43 - Jul 12 by NewcyBlue

“Someone like you”

Now, now. Texters is a decent bloke. I would put money on his first hand experience being correct.

It’s a very weird argument to have Harry.


I'm a bit confused with this from Harry too.

I mean, Harry's a funny one, he's generally speaking morally on the right side of things, (by 'right' Harry, I mean correct, so don't freak out), yet seems to be picking the wrong targets lately.

Texters has strongly spoken out against the trash in London yesterday and is clearly upset by some of the treatment of people he witnessed.

Meanwhile, there's some others bizarrely going out of their way to deny much of it even happened and are too busy attacking their own to listen.

There's a few legitimate targets on this one Harry, but Texters and several others on this thread are not them.
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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 23:22 - Jul 12 with 1178 viewsITFCson

£1500 I paid for a ticket. I was excited for what I thought would be one the best days out I’ve ever experienced.
Turned out to be one of the worst - and not because we lost. In fact Italy were by far the better team so couldn’t begrudge them the win.
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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 23:50 - Jul 12 with 1144 viewsRyorry

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 20:50 - Jul 12 by yesjohn99

Bit much to label a historically well informed poster such as textbackup a liar though.


Unjustly calling people liars is one of the worst forms of abuse on social media - there are real people, known by others irl, behind the handles & unjust accusations can stack up in some people's subconscious till the myth becomes somehow "true" - "no smoke without fire" etc.

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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 16:46 - Jul 15 with 902 viewsmylittletown

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 09:50 - Jul 12 by BlueBlueBluex2

That is certainly not my recollection.

I too was at Germany England and did not see a hint of trouble *until* the train got back into Brussels and the England fans had to walk through the Turkish quarter to get to the main square. It was then that the trouble erupted and was due to be attacked indiscriminately by Turkey supporters.
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Then you were very lucky.

I watched as England fans trashed a street full of cafes and bars.

Then in the stand, a group of them attacked some Germans, really viciously, for standing up when the German national anthem was played, then there was another ruck as we left the ground, in which a larger group of Germans, many of them in family groups, were attacked, presumably for being German..
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There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 17:21 - Jul 15 with 854 viewsHARRY10

There are some disgusting scenes of violence coming out of Wembley tonight on 21:31 - Jul 12 by XYZ

Just for the record; I've no skin in this game.

I specifically noticed, and appreciated, a much more noticeable presence of minorities present at all games on the TV. I assumed it was a response to the players taking the knee.

I appreciate Harry's take on much, but I think he's picked the wrong hill here.


on no hill, whatever that means

but I am still waiting for evidence, just the one clip, one pic out of all the mass available will do......... there must be one, surely

surely there must be the one that suggests the thousands claimed

mean while here is a worthy take on things - though being the BBC they have edited out all the non whites (who were there in their thousands. apparently)


https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p09pcz3n/ros-atkins-on-the-trouble-at-wemb
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