| What a piece of play by Chiellini 10:37 - Jul 12 with 3904 views | BlueRaider |
He won them the tournament with that foul on Saka right at the end of normal time. Saka was away, and had Sterling up with him, he would have been able to draw the keeper and square it for Sterling with an open goal, the Italians were nowhere.
He basically transformed an 80% chance of a goal for a free kick in the middle of nowhere in exchange for a yellow card.
The rules which allow this to be the case suck, and something needs to be done about it, how can it be right that the rules reward you for cynically fouling ? |  |
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| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 12:38 - Jul 12 with 934 views | hoppy |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 11:26 - Jul 12 by Keno |
It was a cynical as the All Blacks spear tackling BOD all those years ago!! |
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| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 12:39 - Jul 12 with 931 views | berkstractorboy |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 12:35 - Jul 12 by Mediocre_Quick |
Was a smart tactical foul, wasn't denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity, covering defenders, never a read, 100% a yellow and well managed by the ref |
And what the hell to player safety is basically what you are saying. I don't care how 'smart' Chiellini was that was dangerous and thats what football authorities should be cutting out. | | | |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 12:57 - Jul 12 with 895 views | EastTownBlue |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 12:20 - Jul 12 by ArnieM |
Italian teams have always had that cycling al side t9 them. Was t surprised in the least they did this. Straight red card in my opinion. He made no attempt to play the ball, and deliberately took the player out. |
Blatant fouls such as that should be red cards. As it stands in the laws at present it is not a red card. | | | |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 13:08 - Jul 12 with 869 views | Mediocre_Quick |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 12:39 - Jul 12 by berkstractorboy |
And what the hell to player safety is basically what you are saying. I don't care how 'smart' Chiellini was that was dangerous and thats what football authorities should be cutting out. |
Not at all, what I'm saying is, within the laws of the game, it wasn't reckless, and even if it endangered 'Player safety' it's still a yellow, maybe read and learn the rules and you'll understand why it was a yellow... |  | | |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 13:24 - Jul 12 with 844 views | berkstractorboy |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 13:08 - Jul 12 by Mediocre_Quick |
Not at all, what I'm saying is, within the laws of the game, it wasn't reckless, and even if it endangered 'Player safety' it's still a yellow, maybe read and learn the rules and you'll understand why it was a yellow... |
I've read the rules and understand why it was yellow and not debating that. My point is the authorities need to update the rules to make such cynical and dangerous fouls a red not yellow. | | | |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 13:43 - Jul 12 with 818 views | RobTheMonk |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 12:00 - Jul 12 by berkstractorboy |
Agreed under the current rules but they need to look at the rules for that. I think thats a 1st for me and much more dangerous than a petulant kick out that gets a red! |
I think by the law it was shirt tug even though it was a collar tug as such.
I think collar tugs should be made a red card offence as it is pretty dangerous. As the rules currently are, it's a yellow all day long. |  | | |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 14:36 - Jul 12 with 779 views | Churchman |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 12:39 - Jul 12 by berkstractorboy |
And what the hell to player safety is basically what you are saying. I don't care how 'smart' Chiellini was that was dangerous and thats what football authorities should be cutting out. |
I don’t think it’s a question of that and while it was no picnic for Saka, I don’t think it was particularly dangerous. Chiellini, who after 20 mins didn’t lose a tackle or header to Kane all night, knew the rules; that it was a yellow and it was well worth it. If it’d been the other way round and say Stones had done it Chiesa, we’d have breathed a sigh of relief. Saka was potentially away.
The foul on Grealish was a different matter. Looked a red to me and it did to the player, otherwise he wouldn’t have done the I’ve been shot routine to buy time and get his own players crowding around the ref.
I wish that German chap had reffed the game. I thought last nights was one of the poorer ones in what’s been overall a well officiated tournament. [Post edited 12 Jul 2021 14:36]
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| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 15:07 - Jul 12 with 748 views | Durovigutum |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 10:43 - Jul 12 by brazil1982 |
Red card IMO - reckless. |
Reckless is a yellow. Violent conduct or excessive force is a red - the shirt pull wasn't.
Denial of an obvious goalscoring opportunity is red - this wasn't, too far from goal with too much to do.
I was explaining to my 11 year old son last night how "cute" the Italians were. This was the pinnacle. |  | | |
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| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 16:10 - Jul 12 with 715 views | Pinewoodblue |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 12:57 - Jul 12 by EastTownBlue |
Blatant fouls such as that should be red cards. As it stands in the laws at present it is not a red card. |
Serious misconduct is a red card offence. It is worth remembering that Chiellini was actual outside the field of play when he committed the offence.
I am sure that changes will be made, or at least clearer guidance issued to officials, before the next major competition. |  |
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| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 17:41 - Jul 12 with 655 views | The_Last_Baron |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 10:42 - Jul 12 by Churchman |
They managed the referee beautifully. All the little stuff and when necessary the big stuff like Chiellini’s at the end. They were in the ref’s ear throughout and I suspect they made it perfectly clear that Stirling’s diving efforts were not to be tolerated. It wasn’t and he didn’t get a free kick all night long. |
Sterling had a poor game last night, spent most of it trying to win free-kicks and pens by falling around. Mason Mount hardly had a touch and should have been replaced by Grealish at half-time.
Southgate's subs poor. Sancho should have replace Sterling on the hour mark. Rice was having a great match and only the coach can see why it was a good decision to replace him with Henderson. The subs ahead of penalties were mad.
When 1-0 up England should have went for the kill. |  |
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| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 18:28 - Jul 12 with 642 views | reusersfreekicks |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 11:05 - Jul 12 by Pinewoodblue |
Italy played the Italian way, just look at the yellow card count and number of fouls. When you take into account the possession stats it is even more obvious
While ref had a good game he let too much go in the first half.
With a different referee the result would have been different, thinking of the German ref who I thought was the best at the tournament. |
No it really would have been the same result |  | | |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 18:59 - Jul 12 with 634 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 15:07 - Jul 12 by Durovigutum |
Reckless is a yellow. Violent conduct or excessive force is a red - the shirt pull wasn't.
Denial of an obvious goalscoring opportunity is red - this wasn't, too far from goal with too much to do.
I was explaining to my 11 year old son last night how "cute" the Italians were. This was the pinnacle. |
And the point that is being missed is that Chiellini would still have done it at that stage of the match even if it had been a red card offence. He saw it as a goal threat that needed stopping regardless of the "fairness" of doing so. If that had been Butcher hauling down Maradona in 86 we would have been applauding it. |  |
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| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 19:03 - Jul 12 with 631 views | Ryorry |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 18:59 - Jul 12 by Nthsuffolkblue |
And the point that is being missed is that Chiellini would still have done it at that stage of the match even if it had been a red card offence. He saw it as a goal threat that needed stopping regardless of the "fairness" of doing so. If that had been Butcher hauling down Maradona in 86 we would have been applauding it. |
Speak for yourself - I certainly wouldn't have been applauding it if it had been Butcher on Maradona. |  |
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| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 20:53 - Jul 12 with 590 views | Deano69 |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 10:44 - Jul 12 by RobTheMonk |
Disagree. It was basically an (admittedly aggressive) shirt tug on the halfway line which will 99% of the time be a yellow. |
Except he almost garrotted a player running at speed. Defo a red card. |  |
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| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 21:12 - Jul 12 with 579 views | Plums |
| What a piece of play by Chiellini on 20:53 - Jul 12 by Deano69 |
Except he almost garrotted a player running at speed. Defo a red card. |
Excessive force for me, he didn’t need to strangle the lad in order to stop him. Did VAR review anything at all last night? I certainly expected to see ‘potential red card’ flash up for that and the tackle on Grealish. |  |
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