| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM 08:14 - Jul 29 with 4382 views | Bluefish |
Has the PC gamble to bomb squad the players backfired or is it simply that he has been let down by MA not getting the players in quick enough?
2 CMs left rotting in the stiffs, dropped points could be crucial |  |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 09:43 - Jul 29 with 1376 views | itfcjoe |
So sad whatever the situation with Downes is, is helping no one but obviously too far gone |  |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 10:08 - Jul 29 with 1287 views | Funge |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 09:43 - Jul 29 by itfcjoe |
So sad whatever the situation with Downes is, is helping no one but obviously too far gone |
Do you reckon, Joe?
Any chance that Cook / Downes could meet in the middle; reconcile as with Dobra? |  | | |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 10:11 - Jul 29 with 1273 views | jayessess |
You're all booing the OP but it's not technically wrong, is it? |  |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 10:23 - Jul 29 with 1235 views | Bluefish |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 10:11 - Jul 29 by jayessess |
You're all booing the OP but it's not technically wrong, is it? |
You will have to break it down for them a lot more than that. They see me start a thread and go for the pile on without any regard for the content. The fact I am nearly always right makes it almost as funny as the desperate calls for Phil to ban me
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 10:25 - Jul 29 with 1226 views | Churchman |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 10:08 - Jul 29 by Funge |
Do you reckon, Joe?
Any chance that Cook / Downes could meet in the middle; reconcile as with Dobra? |
I don’t think it’s about meeting in the middle. Surely it’s about whether the club wants Downes; would he fit what Cook wants to do (surely yes); does Downes want to be here; is he prepared to commit and do what’s asked of him.
As I see it, it’s up to Downes. The only meeting in the middle Cook should do is to welcome him into the fold if he wants to be here.
I’m actually surprised nobody has come in for Downes, but who knows what happens behind the scenes. Let’s hope it’s resolved soon. |  | | |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 10:29 - Jul 29 with 1209 views | Asa |
Fortunately, this is League One and we are playing against newly promoted Morecambe.
There is quite a possibility that the four or five youth players we'd consider to partner Harper, if there are a) no further signings, b) nobody else can fill in there and c) Evans (who should be back) is not back for whatever, would potentially get into the Morecambe midfield anyway.
I don't think whether we (as title favourites, with a rampant Portman Road, against the relegations favourites in their first ever game at this level / biggest league match ever) will be dropping points will be because Lee Evans is unavailable. Even Scott Fraser filling in at DM for a match is likely to be vastly superior to his Morecambe counterpart.
We will have four or five players on the bench that would be their star player. Anything can happen on the day, but suggesting this will be crucial is a tad over dramatic. No disrespect to Morecambe. They deserve to be in League One, as do we. But even their supporters will no doubt admit on paper we have a squad that should be several levels too good for them, once the season is in full swing.
If we drop points it will be because we have an entirely new team, entirely new system and need time to gel or because Morecambe are very well drilled and organised or Morecambe are playing out of their skins in the biggest match of their entire history. Probably a combination of all.
Being one player short of an entire XI that would walk into the Morecambe starting XI won't be the clincher.
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:08 - Jul 29 with 1149 views | positivity |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 10:11 - Jul 29 by jayessess |
You're all booing the OP but it's not technically wrong, is it? |
the post is technically wrong though on several points:-
it's not one week to the start of the season
we don't just have 1 fit cm
we don't have 2 cms rotting in the stiffs for no reason (one doesn't want to play for the club, one has probably slipped below our improving youth players)
the club have been bringing players in quickly, and we have 9 days (equivalent to 1.5 signings!) still to go
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:10 - Jul 29 with 1133 views | Funge |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 10:25 - Jul 29 by Churchman |
I don’t think it’s about meeting in the middle. Surely it’s about whether the club wants Downes; would he fit what Cook wants to do (surely yes); does Downes want to be here; is he prepared to commit and do what’s asked of him.
As I see it, it’s up to Downes. The only meeting in the middle Cook should do is to welcome him into the fold if he wants to be here.
I’m actually surprised nobody has come in for Downes, but who knows what happens behind the scenes. Let’s hope it’s resolved soon. |
That's fair; Dobra has been welcomed back because he's made it apparent that he wants to be part of ITFC going forwards.
One can only presume Downes doesn't share that enthusiasm.
Damn shame. Downes alongside Evans/ Harper would be decent. | | | |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:31 - Jul 29 with 1074 views | jayessess |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:08 - Jul 29 by positivity |
the post is technically wrong though on several points:-
it's not one week to the start of the season
we don't just have 1 fit cm
we don't have 2 cms rotting in the stiffs for no reason (one doesn't want to play for the club, one has probably slipped below our improving youth players)
the club have been bringing players in quickly, and we have 9 days (equivalent to 1.5 signings!) still to go
i'm not even sure if bluefish is his real name |
I suppose technically "not wrong, per se" might have been better phrasing!
"1 fit cm" is a reasonable description of our situation when Harper is the only specialist CM with even 1 football league appearance currently available for selection.
It's not technically 7 days, but the season does start next week, so near enough. | |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:37 - Jul 29 with 1045 views | positivity |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:31 - Jul 29 by jayessess |
I suppose technically "not wrong, per se" might have been better phrasing!
"1 fit cm" is a reasonable description of our situation when Harper is the only specialist CM with even 1 football league appearance currently available for selection.
It's not technically 7 days, but the season does start next week, so near enough. |
even slightly wrong is technically wrong!
we don't know if nolan and evans are fit, it was suggested that they were only held back as a precaution.
fraser is fit and can comfortably play there.
as for experience how many games had hyamsy (always worth bringing that nickname back) had when he came in and played very well opening day?
the op is looking for any excuse to blub and flounce and we all know it! | |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:48 - Jul 29 with 1020 views | jayessess |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:37 - Jul 29 by positivity |
even slightly wrong is technically wrong!
we don't know if nolan and evans are fit, it was suggested that they were only held back as a precaution.
fraser is fit and can comfortably play there.
as for experience how many games had hyamsy (always worth bringing that nickname back) had when he came in and played very well opening day?
the op is looking for any excuse to blub and flounce and we all know it! |
Really cannot wait for us to get past the idea that any concern or criticism of any aspect of the club is "blubbing", "flouncing" or "bedwetting".
We're light in centre midfield at the moment. Moving our new attacking midfielder back or picking an untested 17-year-old wouldn't be ideal. We'll probably be fine but I've no idea why noticing that we're light has inspired such outrage! | |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:56 - Jul 29 with 997 views | TomTheWriter |
I agree that centre midfielder is an area that could be looked at, mainly because Nolan seems to have turned himself into the next ‘will they, won’t they’ for fitness this season. Unless Cook thinks Humphrys can make the jump up, we might need to have a gander at a Lee Evans back up, because Harper and Nolan will be the drivers with the ball.
I identified 10 names who could be off interest. 8 are 28+, bit part players for their Championship sides, except for Shinnie but we all know the worries with Derby right now. The final two are younger options. I really like the look of Stephen Kelly. 21 years old, was on loan at Ross County and thrived in SPL. Played for Rangers in friendlies this summer, could be due a final ‘big’ loan before stepping into Rangers’ starting XI. Fans want to keep him to back-up Lundstrum and Davis, but Rangers reportedly want him to go out on another loan.
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 12:00 - Jul 29 with 980 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:48 - Jul 29 by jayessess |
Really cannot wait for us to get past the idea that any concern or criticism of any aspect of the club is "blubbing", "flouncing" or "bedwetting".
We're light in centre midfield at the moment. Moving our new attacking midfielder back or picking an untested 17-year-old wouldn't be ideal. We'll probably be fine but I've no idea why noticing that we're light has inspired such outrage! |
Because we are a long way from the window closing?
We are after better players these days, and thus the deals take longer to get done (because other teams want them as well, unlike many of our previous recent signings). We've still managed to sign 10 thus far. 10 very good ones by most accounts.
And what does worrying about centre midfield being light achieve? I imagine they're working their socks off to get more deals done, I don't think Blubbers has pointed out something the management haven't noticed.
Plus there's a week and a half until we take on the mighty Morecambe. |  |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 12:03 - Jul 29 with 976 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Think we'll probably add one more CM, before the start of the season, possibly on loan.
Ashton seemed to hint that some things were hopefully happening in the next days on Tuesday, so you'd hope by tomorrow, but we'll have to wait and see.
Evans isn't really a worry with a minor niggle, but Nolan presumably has had no pre-season so is 4-5 weeks away you'd have to assume.
Humphries will probably be around the first team squad initially, but you're right, we are certainly light in that area. |  |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 12:11 - Jul 29 with 952 views | jayessess |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 12:00 - Jul 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Because we are a long way from the window closing?
We are after better players these days, and thus the deals take longer to get done (because other teams want them as well, unlike many of our previous recent signings). We've still managed to sign 10 thus far. 10 very good ones by most accounts.
And what does worrying about centre midfield being light achieve? I imagine they're working their socks off to get more deals done, I don't think Blubbers has pointed out something the management haven't noticed.
Plus there's a week and a half until we take on the mighty Morecambe. |
Like I said, we'll probably be fine. Still don't get the outrage. | |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 12:15 - Jul 29 with 939 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 12:11 - Jul 29 by jayessess |
Like I said, we'll probably be fine. Still don't get the outrage. |
Well, the reason for the outrage is because its blubbers. The irony is, had we still ME running things, who Fishers was a strong advocate of, we really would be in the sh*t.
But with the new lot, who he is already beginning to question, I'm far more confident. | |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 12:18 - Jul 29 with 921 views | positivity |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:48 - Jul 29 by jayessess |
Really cannot wait for us to get past the idea that any concern or criticism of any aspect of the club is "blubbing", "flouncing" or "bedwetting".
We're light in centre midfield at the moment. Moving our new attacking midfielder back or picking an untested 17-year-old wouldn't be ideal. We'll probably be fine but I've no idea why noticing that we're light has inspired such outrage! |
it was the hyperbolic flouncing language used.
every team in this league with a squad of 22 is going to have injuries and either dip into their youth or play players out of position. it's impossible to cover every eventuality
if kvy gets a knock next week, the op'll moan about the lack of right backs, if toto gets a knock it'll be we don't have enough centre-backs.
it's all very boring and repetitive from him | |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 13:56 - Jul 29 with 842 views | horsfordblue |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:56 - Jul 29 by TomTheWriter |
I agree that centre midfielder is an area that could be looked at, mainly because Nolan seems to have turned himself into the next ‘will they, won’t they’ for fitness this season. Unless Cook thinks Humphrys can make the jump up, we might need to have a gander at a Lee Evans back up, because Harper and Nolan will be the drivers with the ball.
I identified 10 names who could be off interest. 8 are 28+, bit part players for their Championship sides, except for Shinnie but we all know the worries with Derby right now. The final two are younger options. I really like the look of Stephen Kelly. 21 years old, was on loan at Ross County and thrived in SPL. Played for Rangers in friendlies this summer, could be due a final ‘big’ loan before stepping into Rangers’ starting XI. Fans want to keep him to back-up Lundstrum and Davis, but Rangers reportedly want him to go out on another loan.
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If we want a digger in the middle of the pitch Harry Arter would do a job (although he moans like hell), and i'd hate to see what his wages are at Forest... | | | |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 14:01 - Jul 29 with 829 views | itfcjoe |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 10:08 - Jul 29 by Funge |
Do you reckon, Joe?
Any chance that Cook / Downes could meet in the middle; reconcile as with Dobra? |
Think it is too far gone now, just a waiting game. | |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 14:15 - Jul 29 with 781 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 13:56 - Jul 29 by horsfordblue |
If we want a digger in the middle of the pitch Harry Arter would do a job (although he moans like hell), and i'd hate to see what his wages are at Forest... |
Jack Colback is 31?!?!
wtf
Wasn't he here as a teenager, about 4 years ago!?
Wow. |  |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 14:23 - Jul 29 with 758 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 11:48 - Jul 29 by jayessess |
Really cannot wait for us to get past the idea that any concern or criticism of any aspect of the club is "blubbing", "flouncing" or "bedwetting".
We're light in centre midfield at the moment. Moving our new attacking midfielder back or picking an untested 17-year-old wouldn't be ideal. We'll probably be fine but I've no idea why noticing that we're light has inspired such outrage! |
Are we really that close to throwing in an untested 17-yr-old though?
Harper, Fraser and McGavin (21 with 6 ITFC first team appearances and some loan experience) are all fit aren't they? Is Evans definitely out for Morecambe? Penney can play there (although that does mean we would need a LB - Coulson if signed or Kenlock or Woolfenden can play there). Would Ndaba play there if needed (21 and looks on the verge of the first team squad)?
No one is saying we couldn't do with another CM in the building but this is a clear flounce. Don't encourage him. Even he doesn't believe his own flouncing. He has predicted ITFC to win the league.
EDIT: Got the digits the wrong way round with McGavin making him only 12! Oops. [Post edited 29 Jul 2021 14:37]
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 18:06 - Jul 29 with 656 views | NthQldITFC |
| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM on 10:23 - Jul 29 by Bluefish |
You will have to break it down for them a lot more than that. They see me start a thread and go for the pile on without any regard for the content. The fact I am nearly always right makes it almost as funny as the desperate calls for Phil to ban me
Football isn't for everyone |
You have me wondering whether the assertion 'The fact that I am nearly always right...' is one of those exceptions that prove the rule, or the very opposite? Or something else? Too difficult for me to work out.
All I know is that I feel very positive about the squad rebuild being done, and the season ahead. I hope I am right about that, at least. |  |
| # WE ARE STEALING THE FUTURE FROM OUR CHILDREN --- WE MUST CHANGE COURSE # | | Poll: | It's driving me nuts |
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| 1 week until the start of the season and 1 fit CM (n/t) on 18:16 - Jul 29 with 636 views | PositivelyPortman |
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