| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road 20:13 - Nov 13 with 3888 views | CopfordBlue |
and show us how a decent manager with the right staff around him can get a team to be more than the sum of its parts.
Cook has recruited well, we have some excellent players but in most games they are under-performing. Moan all you want about Oxford’s time-wasting but what we saw today was a well-organised team, working as a unit and executing their game strategy very well. In contrast we had 11 players with far more talent and technical ability than their opponents but lacking a clear plan.
The current management team won’t get us up this season. We may make the play offs but over 2 games we’ll come up short. There’s no way I could see us beating that Oxford team we saw today over two games. We’d end up feeling we were the better team but bemoaning poor decisions, their time-wasting and general sh*thousery but ultimately we’ll end up losers.
Yes PC has a great track record of promotion out of this league but not with the group of coaches and staff he has assembled. We’re not terrible but nor should we be with the players we have. At the same time though we’re nowhere near as good as we should be. The owners who have invested so much money and us supporters who have invested so much time and endured so much disappointment season after season deserve better than we’re getting.
Cook and his sidekicks aren’t good enough. They are squandering the best (and maybe last) opportunity to turn our club around. |  |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:12 - Nov 13 with 705 views | LeoMuff |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 20:57 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
Yes. |
Well I would disagree. |  |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:16 - Nov 13 with 692 views | Skip_Intro |
try going to a game...you might talk a bit more sense then... |  | | |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:20 - Nov 13 with 673 views | chrismakin |
So you're loving a manager who left PR with the same amount of points from the game as our own manager? But you don't like our manager as he only got 1 point the same as the other manager who you like because he got the same 1 point as our own manager? |  |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:23 - Nov 13 with 677 views | Oldboy |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:10 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
No. |
Why no? The Op wants to compare Cook and Robinson at their respective clubs. Robinson hasn't got Oxford promoted, so why would he be better than Cook here? |  | | |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:23 - Nov 13 with 676 views | Churchman |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 20:42 - Nov 13 by LeoMuff |
We are top scorers in league1, we have been in play off form since Bolton, we stuffed Wycombe and Portsmouth for 4 away.
we started off poorly as we had an entire new squad, what are you seeing here ? we are clearly one of the best and most exciting teams in the league and with a slight defensive improvement and cutting out badly timed goals we would be the best.
There is no way we should be sacking Cook and no way we will, the evidence is staring out , that he is building an exciting promotion side this season or next. |
Badly worded by me. I’m saying precisely that. We should not be sacking Cook now. Even if we miss out on top six, his position should be reviewed, but depending on where the team and the club are, that doesn’t necessarily mean he should be fired. The Norwich model of fire somebody without a replacement seems daft to me.
However, it’s a results business. Had we shown no improvement in October, he’d have to have gone, surely. But we did improve so well done him and the team. This football club, thank goodness, has moved away from accepting Evans-esq mediocrity.
As I’ve said in other posts, we are improving and I think getting stronger off the field and now on it. Our competitiveness in recent games shows that. I think we will be ok. |  | | |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:38 - Nov 13 with 643 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
Karl Robinson....what has he done in his managerial career? Lower leagues nobody. |  | | |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:44 - Nov 13 with 634 views | OsborneOneNil |
What an absolute blouse you are. |  | | |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:45 - Nov 13 with 632 views | Herbivore |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:23 - Nov 13 by Oldboy |
Why no? The Op wants to compare Cook and Robinson at their respective clubs. Robinson hasn't got Oxford promoted, so why would he be better than Cook here? |
It's appropriate to take expectation and resources into account when assessing how well a manager has done or is doing in their role. Oxford are currently higher than us and were last season too despite having a much smaller budget. |  |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:51 - Nov 13 with 614 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:45 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
It's appropriate to take expectation and resources into account when assessing how well a manager has done or is doing in their role. Oxford are currently higher than us and were last season too despite having a much smaller budget. |
So what would appease you and allow you to support the team? |  |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:54 - Nov 13 with 605 views | Herbivore |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:51 - Nov 13 by You_Bloo_Right |
So what would appease you and allow you to support the team? |
I already support the team and have done for 30+ years. | |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:56 - Nov 13 with 600 views | Keaneish |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 20:35 - Nov 13 by Churchman |
Cook has performed poorly. People keep going on about his sidekicks/coaches. I’ve no idea what these coaches do and quite frankly I couldn’t care a less. It’s up to PC - he’s accountable whether he employs Richardson or Captain Kremmen.
Had he got sacked after 10 games or by the latest end of October I really don’t think he could have complained. He’s been poor. With our resources we should be better than we are.
But I think we are beyond that now and we should go with it until the seasons end or play offs are not achievable before seeing if we need a change. There are good things happening at the club and I think tearing up the team now would not be the right choice. As it goes, I too prefer the inclusive approach over the siege mentality one beloved by Keane and MM. |
I think you’re really boring. You seem to wait in the wings and when anything other than a win isn’t produced you spout drivel. Not at the game today? |  |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:02 - Nov 13 with 584 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:45 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
It's appropriate to take expectation and resources into account when assessing how well a manager has done or is doing in their role. Oxford are currently higher than us and were last season too despite having a much smaller budget. |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:09 - Nov 13 with 574 views | Herbivore |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:02 - Nov 13 by OsborneOneNil |
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What do you disagree with there exactly? | |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:09 - Nov 13 with 574 views | nodge_blue |
Get a grip.
First half Oxford burnt themselves out. Hence why all the cramp going on at the end.
We were the better side over 90 minutes and hit the woodwork. We should have done much better with several final passes but you make it sound like a different game.
I can easily see us beating Oxford over two legs. [Post edited 13 Nov 2021 22:10]
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:14 - Nov 13 with 565 views | Churchman |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:56 - Nov 13 by Keaneish |
I think you’re really boring. You seem to wait in the wings and when anything other than a win isn’t produced you spout drivel. Not at the game today? |
You are incorrect about what I post and when. I actually respect your posts as I do most people’s’ on here and I don’t do rudeness towards other posters, bar the odd wind up merchant from other clubs. | | | |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:18 - Nov 13 with 562 views | bluestandard |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 20:20 - Nov 13 by wkj |
We're at a point where we are expecting a win out of every game, and that simply isn't where we are. PC has a lot more to get right than he has to get wrong in my mind, but now is not the time to judge the season.
If they were going to get rid of Cook, I would have preferred it to have been within the first 10 games, now we're approaching halfway - it's the wrong time entirely. Having seen managers like Roy Keane and Mick McCarhty who almost created a bubble between themselves and the fans, I prefer what we have right now. Cook knows what the fans feel, he knows what we want, and he knows that we hurt - and he manages the club with the fans at the core of his job. On that merit I afford him more patience. |
Agree with this. Especially agree that Cook understands the fans perspective more than any of our recent managers. How often did we hear Lambo talking complete garbage about ‘a superb performance’ which was entirely at odds with what we the fans were seeing. Cook called out all the crap last season. Today he said we deserved to win and finally it feels plausible! Keep going PC, we’re right behind you. | | | |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:18 - Nov 13 with 557 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:09 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
What do you disagree with there exactly? |
You generally come across as glass half empty. A slight dip on the curve to glory, like a draw v a top six side today, and you’re straight into costs of the side etc and that seems to be the long and short.
You don’t seem to appreciate the improvement we’ve had over the last 10/12 games or so. Any blip results in a full on negative from you.
Yes, we had a massively disappointing start. Yes, we’d perhaps expect to be top 6, or higher…BUT, we are so much better than last year in so many ways, and, we are growing.
Maybe take a breather and see how we are at Xmas and then get critical of the management.
I’m convinced we will be ok with Cook. And, I’m prepared to see it through. [Post edited 14 Nov 2021 17:37]
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:25 - Nov 13 with 547 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:45 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
It's appropriate to take expectation and resources into account when assessing how well a manager has done or is doing in their role. Oxford are currently higher than us and were last season too despite having a much smaller budget. |
It's very important to point out at that we are in November. Only 17 league games out of 46. But you will literally use anything to slate Cook given your anti-Cook attitude.
In one of the previous posts you have even mentioned last season (after Cooks arrival) as a 'weapon' against him. We know how loyal you are to those slackers but you need to remember that shower wouldn' t turn up for three managers Hurst, Lambert and Cook.
If for example we get promoted through the play-offs you will be still moaning that 'we should have gone up' automatically. | | | |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:28 - Nov 13 with 535 views | Vic |
Remind me, how many did this super organized, well trained team beat us by today?
When I turned of the transistor we had just drawn 0:0 - maybe they came out and played some more , but if it finished that way it means they could actually score against poorly coached team. [Post edited 13 Nov 2021 22:29]
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:34 - Nov 13 with 514 views | Bluearmy71 |
After witnessing Karl Robinson's less that sporting pathetic tactics today my estimation of him has gone down a lot, I wouldn't want anyone who imposed those kind of tactics managing Town and he was in my top 3 before we appointed PC. |  | | |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:42 - Nov 13 with 502 views | Vic |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 21:56 - Nov 13 by Keaneish |
I think you’re really boring. You seem to wait in the wings and when anything other than a win isn’t produced you spout drivel. Not at the game today? |
I think you must be getting Churchy muddled up with some other poster. Either than or you’ve had a drink to many and your memory is struggling to keep up with your typing! | |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:51 - Nov 13 with 491 views | Herbivore |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:18 - Nov 13 by OsborneOneNil |
You generally come across as glass half empty. A slight dip on the curve to glory, like a draw v a top six side today, and you’re straight into costs of the side etc and that seems to be the long and short.
You don’t seem to appreciate the improvement we’ve had over the last 10/12 games or so. Any blip results in a full on negative from you.
Yes, we had a massively disappointing start. Yes, we’d perhaps expect to be top 6, or higher…BUT, we are so much better than last year in so many ways, and, we are growing.
Maybe take a breather and see how we are at Xmas and then get critical of the management.
I’m convinced we will be ok with Cook. And, I’m prepared to see it through. [Post edited 14 Nov 2021 17:37]
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You see us as on a curve to glory, I remain to be convinced on that. Our recent form has been more positive but not good enough to see us genuinely challenge for automatic promotion this season, which is what the aim was. For me that's a shame, I don't have an issue with you being happy with it, perhaps we just have differing expectations of what success looks like. For me the season hasn't ignited yet despite a few standout results, if you feel it has then that's fine too, happy to agree to disagree. | |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:54 - Nov 13 with 490 views | Herbivore |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:25 - Nov 13 by Mach_foreignBlue |
It's very important to point out at that we are in November. Only 17 league games out of 46. But you will literally use anything to slate Cook given your anti-Cook attitude.
In one of the previous posts you have even mentioned last season (after Cooks arrival) as a 'weapon' against him. We know how loyal you are to those slackers but you need to remember that shower wouldn' t turn up for three managers Hurst, Lambert and Cook.
If for example we get promoted through the play-offs you will be still moaning that 'we should have gone up' automatically. |
Where exactly have I "slated Cook"? If you think pointing out that managers tend to be judged relative to resources and expectations constitutes slating Cook then we've clearly entered some bizarre parallel universe at this point. | |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:58 - Nov 13 with 487 views | Vic |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:51 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
You see us as on a curve to glory, I remain to be convinced on that. Our recent form has been more positive but not good enough to see us genuinely challenge for automatic promotion this season, which is what the aim was. For me that's a shame, I don't have an issue with you being happy with it, perhaps we just have differing expectations of what success looks like. For me the season hasn't ignited yet despite a few standout results, if you feel it has then that's fine too, happy to agree to disagree. |
Auto was of course the aim, but the owners, CEO and chairman have said over and over again that it’s a case of patience and might not happen this year. I’ve said it before, it’s only some of the fanes (like yourself) who changed the bottom line this season to promotion or bust, and now continue to push that agenda. | |
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| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 23:01 - Nov 13 with 485 views | Herbivore |
| Karl Robinson the latest of several managers to come to Portman Road on 22:58 - Nov 13 by Vic |
Auto was of course the aim, but the owners, CEO and chairman have said over and over again that it’s a case of patience and might not happen this year. I’ve said it before, it’s only some of the fanes (like yourself) who changed the bottom line this season to promotion or bust, and now continue to push that agenda. |
I'm getting pretty sick and tired of the (mis)use of the word "agenda". Autos were the aim as you yourself acknowledge. All the talk from new signings coming in, from Cook, from everyone was about the aim this year being promotion. I don't even know what you mean by promotion or bust. I don't expect the club to fold if we don't go up, it will simply be a failure and one for which Cook is likely to lose his job if there aren't mitigating factors in my opinion. | |
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