| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... 13:11 - Nov 17 with 1922 views | ElderGrizzly |
"We have to realise we are dealing with human beings who have families and responsibilities"
Oh, he also happily removed the £20 universal credit uplift..
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:16 - Nov 17 with 1872 views | footers |
This is starting to be a bit reminiscent of the Major government. Only worse, obviously.
There's a Nye Bevan quote that comes to mind but I won't post it because obviously the snowflakes won't like it up 'em. |  |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:17 - Nov 17 with 1865 views | factual_blue |
As I've pointed out before, MPs' pay used to be tied to Grade 7 salaries in the Civil Service.
That grade is now on around £50k. |  |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:21 - Nov 17 with 1846 views | factual_blue |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:16 - Nov 17 by footers |
This is starting to be a bit reminiscent of the Major government. Only worse, obviously.
There's a Nye Bevan quote that comes to mind but I won't post it because obviously the snowflakes won't like it up 'em. |
"So far as I am concerned they [tories] are lower than vermin. They condemned millions of people to semi-starvation. I warn you young men and women, do not listen to what they are saying, do not listen to the seductions of Lord Woolton. They have not changed, or if they have they are slightly worse."
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:23 - Nov 17 with 1817 views | footers |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:21 - Nov 17 by factual_blue |
"So far as I am concerned they [tories] are lower than vermin. They condemned millions of people to semi-starvation. I warn you young men and women, do not listen to what they are saying, do not listen to the seductions of Lord Woolton. They have not changed, or if they have they are slightly worse."
Is that the one? |
You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment. | |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:24 - Nov 17 with 1803 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:21 - Nov 17 by factual_blue |
"So far as I am concerned they [tories] are lower than vermin. They condemned millions of people to semi-starvation. I warn you young men and women, do not listen to what they are saying, do not listen to the seductions of Lord Woolton. They have not changed, or if they have they are slightly worse."
Is that the one? |
Nah I think it's the "bunch of c^nts..." one |  |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:49 - Nov 17 with 1720 views | itfcjoe |
I don't fully disagree with the point he is making - but there is just no way they can talk about this without sounding so out of touch - it's quite delightful to listen to. |  |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 15:03 - Nov 17 with 1527 views | BlueNomad |
Ah but Corbyn....................................... |  | | |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 16:54 - Nov 17 with 1433 views | BlueBadger |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:21 - Nov 17 by factual_blue |
"So far as I am concerned they [tories] are lower than vermin. They condemned millions of people to semi-starvation. I warn you young men and women, do not listen to what they are saying, do not listen to the seductions of Lord Woolton. They have not changed, or if they have they are slightly worse."
Is that the one? |
Personally, I was thinking of the great Iain Banks.
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 17:03 - Nov 17 with 1407 views | GeoffSentence |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:16 - Nov 17 by footers |
This is starting to be a bit reminiscent of the Major government. Only worse, obviously.
There's a Nye Bevan quote that comes to mind but I won't post it because obviously the snowflakes won't like it up 'em. |
At least with the scandals in the Major years the PM set up an enquiry to look into it and sort it out. The current encumbent is enabling it all. |  |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 17:47 - Nov 17 with 1348 views | factual_blue |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 16:54 - Nov 17 by BlueBadger |
Personally, I was thinking of the great Iain Banks.
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That save of his dad's against Brazil in 1970 was something special... | |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 18:16 - Nov 17 with 1318 views | XYZ |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 17:47 - Nov 17 by factual_blue |
That save of his dad's against Brazil in 1970 was something special... |
His cousin's part in Brexit less so. |  | | |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 18:49 - Nov 17 with 1249 views | Durovigutum |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:17 - Nov 17 by factual_blue |
As I've pointed out before, MPs' pay used to be tied to Grade 7 salaries in the Civil Service.
That grade is now on around £50k. |
And it's not enough to attract world class candidates.
The evidence is, er, evident. |  | | |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 18:53 - Nov 17 with 1242 views | Dubtractor |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 18:16 - Nov 17 by XYZ |
His cousin's part in Brexit less so. |
His brothers clothes in Debenhams pretty ropey too. |  |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 18:54 - Nov 17 with 1236 views | footers |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 18:49 - Nov 17 by Durovigutum |
And it's not enough to attract world class candidates.
The evidence is, er, evident. |
If public service is your aim, there shouldn't need to be a huge salary attached to it.
Although I think £82k with subsidised rent, food and drink is a pretty attractive offer regardless.
And the 'issue' only really seems to be on one side of the House... Hmmm. | |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 10:00 - Nov 19 with 1021 views | StokieBlue |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 18:54 - Nov 17 by footers |
If public service is your aim, there shouldn't need to be a huge salary attached to it.
Although I think £82k with subsidised rent, food and drink is a pretty attractive offer regardless.
And the 'issue' only really seems to be on one side of the House... Hmmm. |
It especially helps when you can get nice salary boosts and share options working for an health based AI firm, leave your role there when you become health secretary and then recommend using AI in the health service.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/19/sajid-javid-under-pressure-over
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 10:04 - Nov 19 with 995 views | chicoazul |
I’m extremely sure the public making sure MPs are focussing on important things like second jobs and “corruption” and whether people can be anon on social media will help the millions of children who live in poverty in this country, yes. |  |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 10:04 - Nov 19 with 997 views | Herbivore |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 18:49 - Nov 17 by Durovigutum |
And it's not enough to attract world class candidates.
The evidence is, er, evident. |
Although there are capable people in parliament, just not on the front benches of the government. You could equally make the case that having a system that allows you to be an MP and a well paid consultant in private industry encourages the kind of self serving cronyism we've been served up in recent years. Would some of these chancers want to be involved if that wasn't an option? Probably not, and that can only be a good thing. I'd rather we have MPs who know and accept that it will be their sole focus and who are there to serve the interests of their constituents and the wider public. |  |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 10:07 - Nov 19 with 993 views | StokieBlue |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 10:04 - Nov 19 by Herbivore |
Although there are capable people in parliament, just not on the front benches of the government. You could equally make the case that having a system that allows you to be an MP and a well paid consultant in private industry encourages the kind of self serving cronyism we've been served up in recent years. Would some of these chancers want to be involved if that wasn't an option? Probably not, and that can only be a good thing. I'd rather we have MPs who know and accept that it will be their sole focus and who are there to serve the interests of their constituents and the wider public. |
This is spot on.
Let's not forget, there is plenty of time for consultancy roles, media roles and public speaking when they retire from politics. The "retirement" earnings are far more lucrative than most areas of employment.
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 10:11 - Nov 19 with 976 views | Herbivore |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 10:07 - Nov 19 by StokieBlue |
This is spot on.
Let's not forget, there is plenty of time for consultancy roles, media roles and public speaking when they retire from politics. The "retirement" earnings are far more lucrative than most areas of employment.
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Absolutely. I'd also like to see us completely reform how political parties and election campaigns are funded. Accepting large donations from private individuals and private interests is hugely problematic, as seen in the current cash for peerage allegations. I don't for one second believe that politicians won't be biased towards individuals and organisations that have financially supported them and there are plenty of examples of this being the case. | |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 12:03 - Nov 19 with 908 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 13:21 - Nov 17 by factual_blue |
"So far as I am concerned they [tories] are lower than vermin. They condemned millions of people to semi-starvation. I warn you young men and women, do not listen to what they are saying, do not listen to the seductions of Lord Woolton. They have not changed, or if they have they are slightly worse."
Is that the one? |
Don’t forget the bit before that.
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What is Toryism but organised spivvery? … No amount of cajolery can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party … So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.” |  |
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| Tory MPs not reading the room shocker... on 12:17 - Nov 19 with 855 views | noggin |
‘I think there are people that quite like getting the extra £20 but maybe they don’t need it,’ he told BBC Politics Live. |  |
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