| I don't agree with the decision 20:03 - Dec 4 with 1707 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
but I can move on from Cook. Managers are always transient.
So, what now. Would we be happy with any style of play if it gets us up, or is it free flowing, attacking football or nothing?
With the players we have, we'd be hard pressed to set up to be difficult to beat, as is the standard for L1 clubs it seems. |  |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:05 - Dec 4 with 1505 views | ArnieM |
I just hope the Cook outers on here are ready for the complete backroom upheaval , and possibly player upheaval that is now about to happen. Promotion definitely won’t happen this season. But hey ho , they got what they wanted. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 20:06]
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:07 - Dec 4 with 1475 views | Illinoisblue |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:05 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
I just hope the Cook outers on here are ready for the complete backroom upheaval , and possibly player upheaval that is now about to happen. Promotion definitely won’t happen this season. But hey ho , they got what they wanted. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 20:06]
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Lol. And then lol some more. Ffs |  |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:08 - Dec 4 with 1450 views | ArnieM |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:07 - Dec 4 by Illinoisblue |
Lol. And then lol some more. Ffs |
How many managers is it at this Club in the last 10 years is it now ? Yer mate LOL !!!! | |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:08 - Dec 4 with 1447 views | Dubtractor |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:07 - Dec 4 by Illinoisblue |
Lol. And then lol some more. Ffs |
I'd an another lol to be honest. |  |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:11 - Dec 4 with 1399 views | Illinoisblue |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:08 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
How many managers is it at this Club in the last 10 years is it now ? Yer mate LOL !!!! |
Well, despite you blaming the fans, a large reason we’ve had a lot of managers is because most of them failed.
I’ve no joy from Cook getting fired but something clearly was wrong. | |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:11 - Dec 4 with 1390 views | JDB23 |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:05 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
I just hope the Cook outers on here are ready for the complete backroom upheaval , and possibly player upheaval that is now about to happen. Promotion definitely won’t happen this season. But hey ho , they got what they wanted. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 20:06]
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Give over. If you thought promotion was still possible with Cook then it's still possible with a new setup. There won't be a vast amount of change, most of our backroom staff were put in place by Ashton, it's only Cook and his coaches that will go as is the same with most sackings. |  | | |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:12 - Dec 4 with 1365 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:05 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
I just hope the Cook outers on here are ready for the complete backroom upheaval , and possibly player upheaval that is now about to happen. Promotion definitely won’t happen this season. But hey ho , they got what they wanted. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 20:06]
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The backroom upheaval is the best thing about it.
Player upheaval will be minimal. |  |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:12 - Dec 4 with 1366 views | NeedhamChris |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:05 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
I just hope the Cook outers on here are ready for the complete backroom upheaval , and possibly player upheaval that is now about to happen. Promotion definitely won’t happen this season. But hey ho , they got what they wanted. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 20:06]
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Promotion wasn't happening this season with Cook - unless you hadn't noticed? | |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:13 - Dec 4 with 1359 views | bournemouthblue |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:12 - Dec 4 by Marshalls_Mullet |
The backroom upheaval is the best thing about it.
Player upheaval will be minimal. |
You'd hope so |  |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:14 - Dec 4 with 1346 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:11 - Dec 4 by Illinoisblue |
Well, despite you blaming the fans, a large reason we’ve had a lot of managers is because most of them failed.
I’ve no joy from Cook getting fired but something clearly was wrong. |
Anyway.... He's gone now.
Back to the OP. What style of football are we settling for, surely that narrows who we want? | |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:15 - Dec 4 with 1316 views | Herbivore |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:05 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
I just hope the Cook outers on here are ready for the complete backroom upheaval , and possibly player upheaval that is now about to happen. Promotion definitely won’t happen this season. But hey ho , they got what they wanted. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 20:06]
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Genuinely, which of the back room staff do you think we should be bothered about losing? |  |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:16 - Dec 4 with 1305 views | ArnieM |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:11 - Dec 4 by Illinoisblue |
Well, despite you blaming the fans, a large reason we’ve had a lot of managers is because most of them failed.
I’ve no joy from Cook getting fired but something clearly was wrong. |
I understand Cook hasn’t performed well. I get that. What I detest is the vindictiveness shown by so many fans on here towards a basically honest guy, who has tried his best and put the work in. His past record isn’t shabby, but it just hasn’t happened for him here, yet he’s been spoken about like he’s a piece of S hyte on here. It’s shameful.
I fully accept it wasn’t good enough , and after today I was almost expecting his sacking. But they way people attack him is disgraceful. Sorry but that’s just how I see it. | |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:17 - Dec 4 with 1275 views | gordon |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:05 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
I just hope the Cook outers on here are ready for the complete backroom upheaval , and possibly player upheaval that is now about to happen. Promotion definitely won’t happen this season. But hey ho , they got what they wanted. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 20:06]
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The 'backroom' that we're losing was a bunch of his mates on a meal ticket, nothing more.
Ashton is a t**t and will f**k things up more, but no one needs to cry about Jeffers et al. |  | | |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:18 - Dec 4 with 1248 views | N2_Blue |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:05 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
I just hope the Cook outers on here are ready for the complete backroom upheaval , and possibly player upheaval that is now about to happen. Promotion definitely won’t happen this season. But hey ho , they got what they wanted. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 20:06]
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You're being a bit unfair here. That's not necessary. No one has got what they want. Those who wanted Cook gone want us to be successful and we were failing badly.
Promotion is as likely with a new man as it was with Cook, and I'd personally say more likely as the new man could bring a boost. Cook was taking us nowhere and we had no form whatsover!
Edited: as was not happy at what I called Arnie...was a bit heated, and was not necessary. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 20:50]
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| I do on 20:19 - Dec 4 with 1236 views | Swansea_Blue |
He’s failed to get a group together who plays as a group and leaves everything out on the pitch. I’ve not been vocal in calling for him to be sacked, but I thoroughly understand why he has been. He was obviously much closer than I realised too, which helps explain the abject performances recently (it’s been obvious it’s not a happy camp).
It’s very good timing. Gives them a chance to get the new guy in well before the window. Evans would have waited until Jan 31st. |  |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:19 - Dec 4 with 1226 views | Herbivore |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:16 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
I understand Cook hasn’t performed well. I get that. What I detest is the vindictiveness shown by so many fans on here towards a basically honest guy, who has tried his best and put the work in. His past record isn’t shabby, but it just hasn’t happened for him here, yet he’s been spoken about like he’s a piece of S hyte on here. It’s shameful.
I fully accept it wasn’t good enough , and after today I was almost expecting his sacking. But they way people attack him is disgraceful. Sorry but that’s just how I see it. |
Utter nonsense. | |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:20 - Dec 4 with 1206 views | N2_Blue |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:16 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
I understand Cook hasn’t performed well. I get that. What I detest is the vindictiveness shown by so many fans on here towards a basically honest guy, who has tried his best and put the work in. His past record isn’t shabby, but it just hasn’t happened for him here, yet he’s been spoken about like he’s a piece of S hyte on here. It’s shameful.
I fully accept it wasn’t good enough , and after today I was almost expecting his sacking. But they way people attack him is disgraceful. Sorry but that’s just how I see it. |
no one is being vindictive. In fact most who wanted him gone have wished him well.
Edited: as was not happy at what i called Arnie...was a bit heated, and was not necessary. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 20:48]
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:20 - Dec 4 with 1199 views | ArnieM |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:19 - Dec 4 by Herbivore |
Utter nonsense. |
Don’t give a flying one what you think mate. | |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:21 - Dec 4 with 1174 views | ArnieM |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:20 - Dec 4 by N2_Blue |
no one is being vindictive. In fact most who wanted him gone have wished him well.
Edited: as was not happy at what i called Arnie...was a bit heated, and was not necessary. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 20:48]
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I think there’s been several posts on here over several weeks slagging him off. | |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:28 - Dec 4 with 1128 views | pointofblue |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:21 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
I think there’s been several posts on here over several weeks slagging him off. |
Criticising him as a person or criticising him for his role as a football manager? One is unncessary, the other valid. | |
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:28 - Dec 4 with 1117 views | Herbivore |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:20 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
Don’t give a flying one what you think mate. |
That's a bigger personal attack on me than anyone has made against Cook, and I genuinely am not remotely bothered by it. Cook's poor performance has been discussed on here but he's faced zero personal abuse. Stop being so silly. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 21:04]
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:35 - Dec 4 with 1088 views | readtheleaguetable |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:16 - Dec 4 by ArnieM |
I understand Cook hasn’t performed well. I get that. What I detest is the vindictiveness shown by so many fans on here towards a basically honest guy, who has tried his best and put the work in. His past record isn’t shabby, but it just hasn’t happened for him here, yet he’s been spoken about like he’s a piece of S hyte on here. It’s shameful.
I fully accept it wasn’t good enough , and after today I was almost expecting his sacking. But they way people attack him is disgraceful. Sorry but that’s just how I see it. |
Sorry, Arnie, that was meant as an ‘up vote’.
I agree with you.
I understand why a change is being made because we have eager owners and it’s a results-based business. But the personal vitriol has been horrendous, as it was for Lambert, as it was for Hurst, as it was, for Jewell. As it was for Keane. And even, eventually, as it was for McCarthy, whose years of service deserved much better and whose “Be careful what you wish for “ comment has certainly been vindicated,
The common factor to all that is.. us.
For the sake of our club and for the state of civility within it, for God’s sake give the next guy time and space and Respect. These men are human, not bloodless machines. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 20:37]
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| I don't agree with the decision on 20:38 - Dec 4 with 1063 views | thebooks |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:14 - Dec 4 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Anyway.... He's gone now.
Back to the OP. What style of football are we settling for, surely that narrows who we want? |
I think it’s more about confidence and organisation, rather than style. I reckon we’re a defender short of having a good defence. The squad is strong — we’ve seen enough from individuals in spurts.
I’m just dreading it being a “name”, like Frank Lampard, but let’s see. |  | | |
| I don't agree with the decision on 20:52 - Dec 4 with 1001 views | Vaughan8 |
I'm disappoint d we've sacked another manager and it seems we have a new manager most of the time at the moment.
However, football has changed and instant improvement/success is needed.
I'm fairly sure Alex Ferguson wouldn't have lasted at man utd in this era. | | | |
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