| Does McGreal try something a little different today? 09:12 - Dec 11 with 3469 views | itfcjoe |
He didn’t have time to go with anything on Tuesday and out of a respect for Cook can see why he went with what he did - but do we see something a little bit more out there out there today?
2 up front maybe with Pigott in behind Bonne? El Mizouni to start? Woolfie in for Toto? 3 at the back?
I’m not expecting much, but wouldn’t be at all surprised to see something a bit different |  |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:22 - Dec 11 with 1145 views | DavoIPB |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:19 - Dec 11 by Guthrum |
In which case he'll have to be bl00dy good at motivation and get the team playing at their absolute sharpest. Otherwise, like people complained about Cook, he will have sacrificed his reputation on the altar of a fixed formation. |
Afraid so. |  | | |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:23 - Dec 11 with 1145 views | strikalite |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:04 - Dec 11 by NthQldITFC |
Thanks, yes, swapped KVY back to right wingback, and brought Penney in. |
Without doubt 3-5-2 suits us, under pressure like it or not it obviously can become 5 at the back, it wouldn't be pretty but I'd have Norwood upfront with Bonne, that'd give Wigan something to think about, and wouldn't be afraid to play up to them either, that at least gets us up the pitch.. |  | | |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:24 - Dec 11 with 1146 views | Guthrum |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 09:20 - Dec 11 by billlm |
Whether you like him or not he upsets defenders bit of rough and tumble I'd like to see Norwood start, |
For better or worse, he does seem to be in from the cold (at least for now). |  |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:27 - Dec 11 with 1137 views | Garv |
He needs to play a left back at left back for a start.
We talk about having an unbalanced squad and team, and yet there is a surprising lack of confusion over the Penney exclusion. |  |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:27 - Dec 11 with 1136 views | Radlett_blue |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:19 - Dec 11 by Guthrum |
In which case he'll have to be bl00dy good at motivation and get the team playing at their absolute sharpest. Otherwise, like people complained about Cook, he will have sacrificed his reputation on the altar of a fixed formation. |
If McGreal would like the job full time (I don't think he'd be a good appointment) he needs to at least show he can motivate the team to put in a performance with some energy. The trouble is, we started well at Charlton before falling away & once the team are out on the pitch, there's little he can do. There is half time, of course, but Cook found it near impossible to produce a better second than first half. |  |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:34 - Dec 11 with 1112 views | pointofblue |
I know I’m probably Woolfenden’s biggest advocate on the board but I’m not sure of he’s fine anything of late to warrant returning to the first XI.
Walton
Nsiala - Edmundson - Burgess
KVY - El Mizouni - Morsy - Fraser - Penney
Pigott - Bonne
Substitutes: Hladky, Donacien, Evans, Aluko, Edwards, Chaplin, Norwood
I’d love a more balanced bench but feel all four attacking players bring something different, dependant on the way the match is unfolding. We’ve got enough defenders on the pitch to adapt with only one sub and I guess the same can be said for central midfield.
Not sure what I would do if Celina was fit; tempted to say on the bench in the place of Chaplin. | |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:34 - Dec 11 with 1106 views | Guthrum |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:27 - Dec 11 by Garv |
He needs to play a left back at left back for a start.
We talk about having an unbalanced squad and team, and yet there is a surprising lack of confusion over the Penney exclusion. |
Even sticking Burgess in there. He did a decent job away at Wycombe. | |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:37 - Dec 11 with 1097 views | Guthrum |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:34 - Dec 11 by pointofblue |
I know I’m probably Woolfenden’s biggest advocate on the board but I’m not sure of he’s fine anything of late to warrant returning to the first XI.
Walton
Nsiala - Edmundson - Burgess
KVY - El Mizouni - Morsy - Fraser - Penney
Pigott - Bonne
Substitutes: Hladky, Donacien, Evans, Aluko, Edwards, Chaplin, Norwood
I’d love a more balanced bench but feel all four attacking players bring something different, dependant on the way the match is unfolding. We’ve got enough defenders on the pitch to adapt with only one sub and I guess the same can be said for central midfield.
Not sure what I would do if Celina was fit; tempted to say on the bench in the place of Chaplin. |
I'd probably put Celina (if fit) on the bench instead of Edwards. The former may drift out of the game at times, but he has the ability to score goals from not a lot.
Otherwise, think that's a pretty good lineup. [Post edited 11 Dec 2021 10:37]
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:44 - Dec 11 with 1071 views | pointofblue |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:37 - Dec 11 by Guthrum |
I'd probably put Celina (if fit) on the bench instead of Edwards. The former may drift out of the game at times, but he has the ability to score goals from not a lot.
Otherwise, think that's a pretty good lineup. [Post edited 11 Dec 2021 10:37]
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Maybe. The reason I said Chaplin is I feel he is the nearest ‘like-for-like’ player to Celina; Edwards’ pace could be useful if he want to stretch the game. | |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:52 - Dec 11 with 1042 views | Keaneish |
He has to if he wants the job especially in the wake of the performance at The Valley. I’m travelling up now and I’ll be disappointed if it’s the same system or a 442.
I’m a fan of the of Jackson’s system. We have the personnel for it and it gives us two up top.
3-1-4-2
Walton
Wolfenden - Edmunson - Burgess
Morsy
KVY - El Miz - Fraser - Penney
Bonne - Pigott
Bench: Hladky, Toto, Evans, Chaplin, Celina, Aluko, Norwood |  |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:14 - Dec 11 with 1013 views | Ely_Blue |
The obsession with Woolfenden here is becoming laughable, he gets bullied in this league far too easily and teams know it in the same way as they know the ball back to Nsiala is safe because he’ll just hoof it |  |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:14 - Dec 11 with 1012 views | Keno |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:52 - Dec 11 by Keaneish |
He has to if he wants the job especially in the wake of the performance at The Valley. I’m travelling up now and I’ll be disappointed if it’s the same system or a 442.
I’m a fan of the of Jackson’s system. We have the personnel for it and it gives us two up top.
3-1-4-2
Walton
Wolfenden - Edmunson - Burgess
Morsy
KVY - El Miz - Fraser - Penney
Bonne - Pigott
Bench: Hladky, Toto, Evans, Chaplin, Celina, Aluko, Norwood |
Id be happy with that team |  |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:16 - Dec 11 with 1009 views | Ely_Blue |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:52 - Dec 11 by Keaneish |
He has to if he wants the job especially in the wake of the performance at The Valley. I’m travelling up now and I’ll be disappointed if it’s the same system or a 442.
I’m a fan of the of Jackson’s system. We have the personnel for it and it gives us two up top.
3-1-4-2
Walton
Wolfenden - Edmunson - Burgess
Morsy
KVY - El Miz - Fraser - Penney
Bonne - Pigott
Bench: Hladky, Toto, Evans, Chaplin, Celina, Aluko, Norwood |
Get Woolfenden out of that team | |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:20 - Dec 11 with 1003 views | pointofblue |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:14 - Dec 11 by Ely_Blue |
The obsession with Woolfenden here is becoming laughable, he gets bullied in this league far too easily and teams know it in the same way as they know the ball back to Nsiala is safe because he’ll just hoof it |
He didn’t used to be though. What’s happened to him I don’t know but I guess his progression stalling is representative of our decline. Get him in there with an experienced, level-headed guide at centre back and maybe he’ll grow again. Unfortunately we don’t have one of those at the club. | |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:22 - Dec 11 with 999 views | Bluearmy71 |
"I’m not expecting much, but wouldn’t be at all surprised to see something a bit different "
I'm thinking along these lines too, we have to consider the fact that JM still hasn't had many hours training wise to instil his way on the team yet alone decide what he thinks the his best team will be.
If he stays with KVY at right back (no reason he shouldn't) there is young Bailey Clemments to consider but KVY has the more pace and attacking prowess of the two I do however think BC is the better defensively minded so its a conundrum of what you want from the right back today, I don't think he will pick Janoi as left back again and will replace him with Penny which in turn brings JD in contention for the right back birth.
I can see Morsy, Evans, Aluko and Edwards as the starting 4 in the middle with a front pairing of Bonne and surprisingly Norwood as JN has been scoring of late admittedly for the u23's but even so his confidence will be up and ready to go.
Whatever the line up, good luck to ya lads, we can do this!! |  | | |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:24 - Dec 11 with 999 views | allezlesbleus |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 09:59 - Dec 11 by NthQldITFC |
Definitely seems to be a bit of a consensus building on here for 3 at the back. I'm all for it, primarily because I think it will allow us to keep possession higher up the pitch, with three CBs (fairly) comfortable on the ball.
3-5-2~~~
Walton
Donacien - Edmundson - Woolfy
KVY - Fraser - Morsy - El Miz - Penney
Bonne - Celina
I'd also plan to swap both strikers after about 60 mins (> Pigott - Chaplin) so they can play a really high tempo pressuring game, as pairs, on the opposition defence. [Post edited 11 Dec 2021 10:00]
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Your last sentence epitomises what I have been thinking all season.
We have such an abundance of talent for this division (on paper). I don't understand why we don't go at teams full tempo for an hour or so, with the game plan that the strikers / wingers will run themselves into the ground, before being replaced by 3, 4 or 5 other players of a similar ability, who will then be taking on tired opposition defenders, who won't know what's hit them. |  | | |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:29 - Dec 11 with 978 views | Chrisd |
Not sure what an extra couple of training sessions would have on our side to make a radical difference? Might see a slight change of system, but we need some sort of reaction after Tuesday night's powderpuff performance at Charlton. Bonne looks horribly out of sync at the moment and needs support, so would like to see either Norwood or Pigott given a go with him. We've still got so many questions about our side, the CM looks in effective regardless of the combination and in the wide areas we are still scratching around trying to work out the right blend on either flank. I'm not expecting much either, think we'll get comfortably disposed with and Wigan will beat us being clinical and effective, while keeping us at arm's length in an attacking sense. 2 or 3-0 to the Latics. [Post edited 11 Dec 2021 11:35]
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:31 - Dec 11 with 975 views | Radlett_blue |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 10:34 - Dec 11 by pointofblue |
I know I’m probably Woolfenden’s biggest advocate on the board but I’m not sure of he’s fine anything of late to warrant returning to the first XI.
Walton
Nsiala - Edmundson - Burgess
KVY - El Mizouni - Morsy - Fraser - Penney
Pigott - Bonne
Substitutes: Hladky, Donacien, Evans, Aluko, Edwards, Chaplin, Norwood
I’d love a more balanced bench but feel all four attacking players bring something different, dependant on the way the match is unfolding. We’ve got enough defenders on the pitch to adapt with only one sub and I guess the same can be said for central midfield.
Not sure what I would do if Celina was fit; tempted to say on the bench in the place of Chaplin. |
You need players comfortable on the ball to play a back 3 & Toto definitely doesn't come into that category, while neither Burgess nor Edmundson are great on the ball either. Donacien could play quite well in a back 3. However, suddenly switching to that is a big ask in a struggling team so I doubt it will happen soon. | |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:37 - Dec 11 with 965 views | J2BLUE |
I'd love to see Norwood start. He's needed and it would help stop the anti Ashton sentient before it gets going properly. |  |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:40 - Dec 11 with 959 views | Ely_Blue |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:37 - Dec 11 by J2BLUE |
I'd love to see Norwood start. He's needed and it would help stop the anti Ashton sentient before it gets going properly. |
I’d rather see Norwood start over Woolfenden | |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:40 - Dec 11 with 959 views | Guthrum |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:31 - Dec 11 by Radlett_blue |
You need players comfortable on the ball to play a back 3 & Toto definitely doesn't come into that category, while neither Burgess nor Edmundson are great on the ball either. Donacien could play quite well in a back 3. However, suddenly switching to that is a big ask in a struggling team so I doubt it will happen soon. |
For me, depends how you do it. If they stick to defence and use short passes to Morsy for redistribution, it could work. If the opposition then puts a couple of men on Morsy to mark him out of the game, that then gives a numbers advantage somewhere else to potentially go long into the wide channels.
Playing a Prem-style back three, where the wide centre-halves are expected to behave almost like full-backs, is, I agree, beyond us. | |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:40 - Dec 11 with 956 views | pointofblue |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:40 - Dec 11 by Ely_Blue |
I’d rather see Norwood start over Woolfenden |
Yes, we get it. | |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:44 - Dec 11 with 945 views | Ely_Blue |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:40 - Dec 11 by Guthrum |
For me, depends how you do it. If they stick to defence and use short passes to Morsy for redistribution, it could work. If the opposition then puts a couple of men on Morsy to mark him out of the game, that then gives a numbers advantage somewhere else to potentially go long into the wide channels.
Playing a Prem-style back three, where the wide centre-halves are expected to behave almost like full-backs, is, I agree, beyond us. |
Although Donacien, Edmundson and Burgess could do that comfortably | |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:44 - Dec 11 with 945 views | pointofblue |
| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:44 - Dec 11 by Ely_Blue |
Although Donacien, Edmundson and Burgess could do that comfortably |
Not sure about Donacien as a centre back but maybe he would work in a three? Especially with KVY to his right. | |
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| Does McGreal try something a little different today? on 11:53 - Dec 11 with 927 views | Kieran_Knows |
To be honest Joe, I’d take you over Nsiala. |  |
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