| Changes to BBC license fee 13:22 - Jan 12 with 3933 views | GavTWTD |
I heard in PMQs they're proposing changes. Can anyone tell me how it would work in practice?
People talk about the "Netflix model" but how would that work on free to air channels? How would that work on radio? Ultimately, a subscription would cost more than the current license fee, so feels like a lose-lose situation.
The only way I can see it working if they reduce the license fee but then charge for digital/extra stuff. |  |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 16:28 - Jan 12 with 1332 views | solemio |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 13:24 - Jan 12 by clive_baker |
What does it mean for Escape to the Country?
Asking for a friend. |
You spelt The Repair Shop wrongly. |  | | |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 17:08 - Jan 12 with 1284 views | mutters |
It needs reform, the current model is no longer viable. I opted out last year as I rarely watched live TV, and when I did it was rarely the BBC. No longer interested in MoTD, and the news can be sourced elsewhere, with arguably less bias. Once the little one grew out of watching CBeebies there was no need. Plus also these things are available elsewhere via catchup (not iPlayer).
It has always annoyed me that if I want to watch another channel, then I had to pay the BBC for the privilege to watch live TV. Never understood that one.
Must admit I have not missed it one bit and now spend that money on Netflix and DIsney+. The only thing I do miss is BBC Radio, and though the TV License does not directly cover that (hence its name) I can listen to it without breaking any rules, though I try and be fair and avoid it if I can. |  |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 17:23 - Jan 12 with 1257 views | MattinLondon |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 15:41 - Jan 12 by Sarge |
Honestly, no not really.
I avoid watching the news like the plague and whilst once an avid MOTD watcher my interest in the PL has waned. Also whilst I’m glad they are able to show it, I’m not interested in watching FA Cup ties where the minnows of Dartford take on the giants of Watford on a Friday night.
There are rare occasions I watch something on the BBC and hence I’m not complaining about paying a license fee but if it was a subscription I would consider £13/mo very poor value for what I get out of it and would likely have cancelled it already. |
I can understand why spending money on a service you don’t watch would annoy you - and indeed many others. I do agree that some sort of subscription service is the way to go with the possibility of buying a day pass (like Mow TV) in case there is something which you’d like to watch. |  | | |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 17:26 - Jan 12 with 1236 views | galacticoblue |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 17:08 - Jan 12 by mutters |
It needs reform, the current model is no longer viable. I opted out last year as I rarely watched live TV, and when I did it was rarely the BBC. No longer interested in MoTD, and the news can be sourced elsewhere, with arguably less bias. Once the little one grew out of watching CBeebies there was no need. Plus also these things are available elsewhere via catchup (not iPlayer).
It has always annoyed me that if I want to watch another channel, then I had to pay the BBC for the privilege to watch live TV. Never understood that one.
Must admit I have not missed it one bit and now spend that money on Netflix and DIsney+. The only thing I do miss is BBC Radio, and though the TV License does not directly cover that (hence its name) I can listen to it without breaking any rules, though I try and be fair and avoid it if I can. |
Yes this is my experience as well - I may take the plunge and stop my license fee next time around.
I think you can listen to bbc radio without the license - although I don’t even bother with that either. | | | |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 17:27 - Jan 12 with 1247 views | mylittletown |
The idiotic gammons and their nutter 'libertarian' mates seem determined to destroy one of the very few British institutions which is genuinely admired around the world. |  | | |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 17:33 - Jan 12 with 1233 views | footers |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 17:27 - Jan 12 by mylittletown |
The idiotic gammons and their nutter 'libertarian' mates seem determined to destroy one of the very few British institutions which is genuinely admired around the world. |
Indeed. The cuts to the World Service in particular, including the former foreign press monitoring station (which I can't remember the name of; now outsourced and much less effective) have dealt a huge blow to the UK in terms of soft power overseas. Why a Tory government would want to diminish Britain's standing abroad even if in just a militaristic sense is counterproductive to say the least.
But hey, gotta own the libs at home first I guess. |  |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 18:14 - Jan 12 with 1204 views | HatStand |
I'd willingly sell my house, and all its contents, to pay for my TV licence | |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 18:38 - Jan 12 with 1184 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 14:56 - Jan 12 by GavTWTD |
If you don't watch or use any of the BBC's services then I can understand why people don't want to pay for it. You might also object to the BBC paying big money to some of its "stars" but I think they are the only legitimate reasons that I can think. Oh and giving "balanced" airtime of fringe political parties on political and news programmes.
No idea why I replied to you J2, apols.
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I thought, I don't watch much on the BBC.
However, I do watch some sport on there when they have it, e.g. FA Cup. I watch Doctor Who albeit not live, and I watch their New Years Eve bash.
I also listen to Radio 1 and Radio 5 sometimes.
Then I use their website for news and for educational materials all the time.
And suddenly you realise that you use their services far more than you realise. When you factor in the licence fee covering even more, it is easy to realise (like all public services) it is far better value than we give it credit for and would be sorely missed when we are paying fees for all these different things instead. |  |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 19:14 - Jan 12 with 1170 views | eireblue |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 14:56 - Jan 12 by GavTWTD |
If you don't watch or use any of the BBC's services then I can understand why people don't want to pay for it. You might also object to the BBC paying big money to some of its "stars" but I think they are the only legitimate reasons that I can think. Oh and giving "balanced" airtime of fringe political parties on political and news programmes.
No idea why I replied to you J2, apols.
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It’s alright Gav, we all get sucked in from time to time and then wonder why we replied to J2.
You will feel better after a shower, and no need to apologise to us. |  | | |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 19:31 - Jan 12 with 1155 views | clive_baker |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 15:24 - Jan 12 by Illinoisblue |
My missus found that show on one of our many channels here. She loves British TV and property shows. I however am not a fan; watched a few (these are shows from years ago) and can’t believe you watch for an hour as these morons look at three houses… and then don’t choose one. Wtf is that all about? |
She has exceptional taste Illy, and not just in fellas.
I like it for the random interludes between house hunting, where they’ll be in Northumberland and show the couple some bloke making gin out of coal, or some sh1t like that.
If you think that’s bad, there’s one on C4 with Phil & Kirsty where they show people who are mid extension around other houses, when needless to say they have absolutely no intention of buying a house at that moment in time, nor would they be in a position to sell their own if they wanted to. |  |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 19:34 - Jan 12 with 1152 views | dickie |
I listen to one of 6 music, 5 live, radio 2 and radio suffolk every day for prolonged periods. Plus iplayer is my go to for most things on TV. I really don't have a problem with paying it | | | |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 20:02 - Jan 12 with 1141 views | Ryorry |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 15:24 - Jan 12 by Illinoisblue |
My missus found that show on one of our many channels here. She loves British TV and property shows. I however am not a fan; watched a few (these are shows from years ago) and can’t believe you watch for an hour as these morons look at three houses… and then don’t choose one. Wtf is that all about? |
It's my guilty pleasure - think maybe you have to be born a bit of a nestmaker
to want to look round houses for one which matches your idea of a potential dream-home. In an alt life I'd like to have been an interior designer. |  |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 20:10 - Jan 12 with 1130 views | Ryorry |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 17:33 - Jan 12 by footers |
Indeed. The cuts to the World Service in particular, including the former foreign press monitoring station (which I can't remember the name of; now outsourced and much less effective) have dealt a huge blow to the UK in terms of soft power overseas. Why a Tory government would want to diminish Britain's standing abroad even if in just a militaristic sense is counterproductive to say the least.
But hey, gotta own the libs at home first I guess. |
The BBC World Service is tragically under-rated, seemingly mostly by UK people living in the UK.
Overseas, it's hugely valued - and not just for the objective, "hard" (factually correct) news, including that covering the UK itself, but also for the features & documentaries - 'From Our Own Correspondent', 'Inside Science' 'Stumped', 'Bad Cops' etc. | |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 20:20 - Jan 12 with 1096 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Personally I think the funding model is outdated. I don’t really use bbc news or listen to any of the radio stations. So would happily not fund Gary Lineker’s wages (if Makin thinks McKenna is smarmy, I’d love to hear what he makes of Lineker!).
Only the occasional (maybe a couple a year) series on iplayer which I’d happy pay per view as it would offer much better value to me, as I’m sure many younger people who tend to float to Netflix et al. | | | |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 21:07 - Jan 12 with 1064 views | MattinLondon |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 20:20 - Jan 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Personally I think the funding model is outdated. I don’t really use bbc news or listen to any of the radio stations. So would happily not fund Gary Lineker’s wages (if Makin thinks McKenna is smarmy, I’d love to hear what he makes of Lineker!).
Only the occasional (maybe a couple a year) series on iplayer which I’d happy pay per view as it would offer much better value to me, as I’m sure many younger people who tend to float to Netflix et al. |
Never understood why some think that Lineker is smarmy. I think he’s very good at being the anchorman at sporting events. | | | |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 21:17 - Jan 12 with 1052 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 21:07 - Jan 12 by MattinLondon |
Never understood why some think that Lineker is smarmy. I think he’s very good at being the anchorman at sporting events. |
And somebody who claims not to watch BBC as well.
"I don't watch him but I have a very strong opinion about him."
Hmmm.
As I say, I am sure we all use the BBC services a lot more than we realise and would miss it if it went. | |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 21:19 - Jan 12 with 1045 views | XYZ |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 17:33 - Jan 12 by footers |
Indeed. The cuts to the World Service in particular, including the former foreign press monitoring station (which I can't remember the name of; now outsourced and much less effective) have dealt a huge blow to the UK in terms of soft power overseas. Why a Tory government would want to diminish Britain's standing abroad even if in just a militaristic sense is counterproductive to say the least.
But hey, gotta own the libs at home first I guess. |
Globule Britain | | | |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:22 - Jan 12 with 1002 views | monytowbray |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 13:34 - Jan 12 by J2BLUE |
Of all the things people could target, going after the license fee is just odd.
I suppose the BBC are a victim of the new age where a growing number of people have more extreme beliefs and anyone who doesn't agree one hundred percent is clearly the enemy. Therefore the BBC upset a lot of people on both ends of the spectrum. |
Dominic Cummings led a think tank in the 00s that concluded the Tories best way to gain/keep power was to dismantle/abolish/corrupt the Beeb.
No surprise the same message comes from the same journos funded by the same dark money that gave us Brexit.
Then you have Laura Kusenberg who was happy to take that roll head on for direct access to Cummings.
But don’t tell this to Lowhouse, he may accuse me of accusing the BBC of client journalism. Or something. [Post edited 12 Jan 2022 22:24]
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:23 - Jan 12 with 999 views | monytowbray |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 17:23 - Jan 12 by MattinLondon |
I can understand why spending money on a service you don’t watch would annoy you - and indeed many others. I do agree that some sort of subscription service is the way to go with the possibility of buying a day pass (like Mow TV) in case there is something which you’d like to watch. |
I don’t watch the BBC, therefore I don’t pay it. | |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:35 - Jan 12 with 981 views | Ryorry |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 21:17 - Jan 12 by Nthsuffolkblue |
And somebody who claims not to watch BBC as well.
"I don't watch him but I have a very strong opinion about him."
Hmmm.
As I say, I am sure we all use the BBC services a lot more than we realise and would miss it if it went. |
And I bet he watches the Olympics, World Cup & Europa Cup matches when they're on BBC.
Personally, I can't imagine my TV watching without Attenborough docus, Line of Duty, other dramas (series & one-offs - Small Axe, The Serpent, The Trial of Christine Keeler etc etc etc) HIGNFY, Dragons Den, Arena etc.
Your last para is spot on. | |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:44 - Jan 12 with 967 views | footers |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:23 - Jan 12 by monytowbray |
I don’t watch the BBC, therefore I don’t pay it. |
Do your parents? | |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:45 - Jan 12 with 962 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:35 - Jan 12 by Ryorry |
And I bet he watches the Olympics, World Cup & Europa Cup matches when they're on BBC.
Personally, I can't imagine my TV watching without Attenborough docus, Line of Duty, other dramas (series & one-offs - Small Axe, The Serpent, The Trial of Christine Keeler etc etc etc) HIGNFY, Dragons Den, Arena etc.
Your last para is spot on. |
Nice assumption but incorrect.
Just because you watch it doesn’t mean everyone else does. As I said, be happy to pay on a pay per view basis. | | | |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:50 - Jan 12 with 946 views | mylittletown |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:45 - Jan 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Nice assumption but incorrect.
Just because you watch it doesn’t mean everyone else does. As I said, be happy to pay on a pay per view basis. |
Me me, small world loser versus the greater good. | | | |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:51 - Jan 12 with 943 views | Ryorry |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:45 - Jan 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Nice assumption but incorrect.
Just because you watch it doesn’t mean everyone else does. As I said, be happy to pay on a pay per view basis. |
Didn't make any assumptions, said "I bet" + a list of examples that make it great for me. Accept that's not your bag, fair enough. | |
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| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:55 - Jan 12 with 940 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Changes to BBC license fee on 22:50 - Jan 12 by mylittletown |
Me me, small world loser versus the greater good. |
Loser?
Just expressing an opinion, not sure why it’s triggered you. | | | |
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