| Hypothetically speaking 10:31 - Feb 22 with 18215 views | blueasfook |
On the remote chance that labour had won the election...
I wonder what noises Comrade Corbyn would be making to the Russians over their illegal invasion of Ukraine.
He would probably side with them and wish them well. |  |
| |  |
| Hypothetically speaking on 16:01 - Feb 23 with 1166 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Hypothetically speaking on 15:45 - Feb 23 by lowhouseblue |
mind your own business sweetie. that you and dk post on here what you do is up entirely to you. which middle eastern sheikhdom are you currently peddling? |
Kindly stop using our jobs as barometers of righteousness if you aren't prepared to reveal yours, then!
Otherwise we'll have to assume you have something to hide and are a hypocrite. [Post edited 23 Feb 2022 17:26]
|  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
| |
| Hypothetically speaking on 17:22 - Feb 23 with 1098 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Hypothetically speaking on 13:23 - Feb 23 by MattinLondon |
I’m surprised by that statement. Have I missed something? |
Apologies, I was imprecise in my wording.
EU countries are bound by European Court of Human Rights decisions, in that they are adopted into EU Law, and EU countries then have to follow them.
As a non-EU country, Britain is not bound to follow EU Law, and the British Government is not obligated to adopt its judgements into English or UK Law.
So we no longer have the EHCR as an absolute safeguard and check on the British Executive. |  | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 17:39 - Feb 23 with 1063 views | lowhouseblue |
| Hypothetically speaking on 17:22 - Feb 23 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Apologies, I was imprecise in my wording.
EU countries are bound by European Court of Human Rights decisions, in that they are adopted into EU Law, and EU countries then have to follow them.
As a non-EU country, Britain is not bound to follow EU Law, and the British Government is not obligated to adopt its judgements into English or UK Law.
So we no longer have the EHCR as an absolute safeguard and check on the British Executive. |
the human rights act has not been repealed, we're still a member of the ECHR, the withdrawal agreement commits us to remaining with the ECHR, uk cases can still be taken to the european court of human rights. nothing has changed. the ECHR is separate from the EU |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
| |
| Hypothetically speaking on 19:06 - Feb 23 with 985 views | Rob88 |
| Hypothetically speaking on 17:22 - Feb 23 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Apologies, I was imprecise in my wording.
EU countries are bound by European Court of Human Rights decisions, in that they are adopted into EU Law, and EU countries then have to follow them.
As a non-EU country, Britain is not bound to follow EU Law, and the British Government is not obligated to adopt its judgements into English or UK Law.
So we no longer have the EHCR as an absolute safeguard and check on the British Executive. |
EU countries can seek exemption I believe. Really we should just have remained in and been European about it and just not followed the bits we didn’t want or like. | | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 19:22 - Feb 23 with 961 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Hypothetically speaking on 05:56 - Feb 23 by solomon |
I disagree with Jeremy Corbyn on many many issues however he is at heart a committed pacifist who is committed to peace and the fact all lives should be respected, this surely is a quality all right minded human beings have at the core of their very existence? Maybe just maybe, right now we need someone with these qualities to pull everyone back from the brink of madness? |
Is he a committed pacifist though! Or is he just somebody who is consistent in opposing his own side in any conflict?
Would a committed pacifist, for example, stand for a minutes silence to honour 8 IRA murderers who were killed whilst attempting to blow up a police station and then justify doing so by saying (and this is a direct quote before Koonters starts bleating about smears) “I’m happy to commemorate all those who died fighting for an independent Ireland’.”
It’s funny how these committed pacifists are so keen on an armed struggle when they support the aims of those involved.
Corbyn’s fellow committed pacifist, John McDonnell “It’s about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA”.
What does the ‘A’ stand for again! Oh yes, Army.
And the final member of the triumvirate of committed pacifists, Diane Abbot, when talking about the armed struggle “Every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us. A defeat in Northern Ireland would be a defeat indeed." |  |
| |
| Hypothetically speaking on 19:32 - Feb 23 with 944 views | monytowbray |
Being venomously anti-war it’s a challenging situation.
I’ve found Corbyn has let me down a bit on opinions of aggressive authoritarian powers throwing weight around, but he’s also not wrong NATO expansion hasn’t helped. All in all I still don’t regret voting for him and his policies are all now much needed with hindsight (for some, the rest of us could see the Tories for what they were).
That being said, we still occupy enough nations and are seen no different to the world.
I’ve not read the whole thread yet, but I’ve already seen someone on P1 point out the Tories live in Putin’s pocket, as do much of the GQP in the USA. We’ve actually been in WWIII since 2014 but as a shot hasn’t been fired a large chunk of the nation have no idea they live in a psyop of wealthy right wing fascists and negative foreign influence.
On that note, delete FB. [Post edited 23 Feb 2022 19:36]
|  |
| |
| Hypothetically speaking on 19:36 - Feb 23 with 925 views | monytowbray |
Also, anyone who thinks Communism has any relevance to anything discussed needs to accept their political knowledge is dated at best or they are thick at worst.
Then again I feel the same about people who still use the term “traditional working class” in a world where corporations employ people worldwide on minimum wage. | |
| |
| Hypothetically speaking on 19:49 - Feb 23 with 885 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Hypothetically speaking on 19:32 - Feb 23 by monytowbray |
Being venomously anti-war it’s a challenging situation.
I’ve found Corbyn has let me down a bit on opinions of aggressive authoritarian powers throwing weight around, but he’s also not wrong NATO expansion hasn’t helped. All in all I still don’t regret voting for him and his policies are all now much needed with hindsight (for some, the rest of us could see the Tories for what they were).
That being said, we still occupy enough nations and are seen no different to the world.
I’ve not read the whole thread yet, but I’ve already seen someone on P1 point out the Tories live in Putin’s pocket, as do much of the GQP in the USA. We’ve actually been in WWIII since 2014 but as a shot hasn’t been fired a large chunk of the nation have no idea they live in a psyop of wealthy right wing fascists and negative foreign influence.
On that note, delete FB. [Post edited 23 Feb 2022 19:36]
|
“also not wrong NATO expansion hasn’t helped”. He is wrong.
West/NATO has been the bad guy many times but not here.
I don’t have an issue with Corbyn being a pacifist- not a bad trait. But he is hopelessly naive. Russia has invaded Eastern Europe many times before NATO existed. Do you really think Putin wouldn’t be pulling these moves anyway?
Those countries only recently escaped the oppression of Russia and have every right to join a defence organisation to help maintain their independence. [Post edited 23 Feb 2022 19:51]
| | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| Hypothetically speaking on 19:52 - Feb 23 with 876 views | monytowbray |
| Hypothetically speaking on 19:49 - Feb 23 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“also not wrong NATO expansion hasn’t helped”. He is wrong.
West/NATO has been the bad guy many times but not here.
I don’t have an issue with Corbyn being a pacifist- not a bad trait. But he is hopelessly naive. Russia has invaded Eastern Europe many times before NATO existed. Do you really think Putin wouldn’t be pulling these moves anyway?
Those countries only recently escaped the oppression of Russia and have every right to join a defence organisation to help maintain their independence. [Post edited 23 Feb 2022 19:51]
|
There is a valid point that setting up shop on their front door step hasn’t helped. It’s not exactly a peace keeping mission.
There are plenty of people who see NATO the same way we see Russia (and worse). Plenty of blood on the hands of NATO. [Post edited 23 Feb 2022 19:53]
| |
| |
| Hypothetically speaking on 20:02 - Feb 23 with 851 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Hypothetically speaking on 19:52 - Feb 23 by monytowbray |
There is a valid point that setting up shop on their front door step hasn’t helped. It’s not exactly a peace keeping mission.
There are plenty of people who see NATO the same way we see Russia (and worse). Plenty of blood on the hands of NATO. [Post edited 23 Feb 2022 19:53]
|
So because NATO are in the Baltics and Poland as a defensive measure, Russia invaded Ukraine who are not in NATO, but that’s NATOs fault anyway.
Quite some mental gymnastics there. | | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 20:26 - Feb 23 with 800 views | Seablu |
| Hypothetically speaking on 15:45 - Feb 23 by lowhouseblue |
mind your own business sweetie. that you and dk post on here what you do is up entirely to you. which middle eastern sheikhdom are you currently peddling? |
No need to be shy sweet cheeks.
Being glassers’ uppie lackey and chief fluffer must surely come with certain benefits.
Invest in a keyboard with a caps lock button and you could even try branching out on your own..
 |  | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 21:10 - Feb 23 with 743 views | monytowbray |
| Hypothetically speaking on 20:02 - Feb 23 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
So because NATO are in the Baltics and Poland as a defensive measure, Russia invaded Ukraine who are not in NATO, but that’s NATOs fault anyway.
Quite some mental gymnastics there. |
Two statements can be true.
This is very much one of those cases. | |
| |
| Hypothetically speaking on 21:12 - Feb 23 with 731 views | MattinLondon |
| Hypothetically speaking on 19:22 - Feb 23 by GlasgowBlue |
Is he a committed pacifist though! Or is he just somebody who is consistent in opposing his own side in any conflict?
Would a committed pacifist, for example, stand for a minutes silence to honour 8 IRA murderers who were killed whilst attempting to blow up a police station and then justify doing so by saying (and this is a direct quote before Koonters starts bleating about smears) “I’m happy to commemorate all those who died fighting for an independent Ireland’.”
It’s funny how these committed pacifists are so keen on an armed struggle when they support the aims of those involved.
Corbyn’s fellow committed pacifist, John McDonnell “It’s about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA”.
What does the ‘A’ stand for again! Oh yes, Army.
And the final member of the triumvirate of committed pacifists, Diane Abbot, when talking about the armed struggle “Every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us. A defeat in Northern Ireland would be a defeat indeed." |
Regarding your carefully selected quote in the last paragraph- it should be pointed out that Abbot stated that 37 years ago. Since then she has stated that a lot of her views have changed.
I don’t especially hold a strong opinion on her either way. But it should be pointed out that that quote was a long time ago. I’m sure you would like this clarified as I’m sure you wouldn’t wish to be deliberately disingenuous.
The link below concerns itself with Corbyns relationship with the IRA.
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyn-on-northern-ireland |  | | |
| These threads are great.... on 21:14 - Feb 23 with 724 views | monytowbray |
| These threads are great.... on 14:51 - Feb 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
He's also getting like Benters in terms of 'this is how I see the world/how I do this thing, anyone who doesn't agree/doesn't do it this way, deserves my ridicule/anger.' |
He needs meat to survive.
At this point he’s verging into Incel territory. | |
| |
| Hypothetically speaking on 21:30 - Feb 23 with 695 views | monytowbray |
| Hypothetically speaking on 11:26 - Feb 23 by blueasfook |
Racism against white people is clearly far less tolerable in this country.
There's a suprise eh! |
I thought the legend of Blueas on here was he was a nice and funny person if not a wind up merchant?
Have you all really just been hyping this idiot!? Little more than a frightened little Gammon. | |
| |
| Hypothetically speaking on 22:04 - Feb 23 with 654 views | MattinLondon |
| Hypothetically speaking on 21:30 - Feb 23 by monytowbray |
I thought the legend of Blueas on here was he was a nice and funny person if not a wind up merchant?
Have you all really just been hyping this idiot!? Little more than a frightened little Gammon. |
There’s been a couple others who were supposed board legends but failed in their comeback. One was (I think) belstead. The other one - I have forgotten their username - but he posted something about Londoners being very unfriendly. Then he disappeared with his tail between his legs. | | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 22:16 - Feb 23 with 631 views | jeera |
| Hypothetically speaking on 21:30 - Feb 23 by monytowbray |
I thought the legend of Blueas on here was he was a nice and funny person if not a wind up merchant?
Have you all really just been hyping this idiot!? Little more than a frightened little Gammon. |
Pretty sure he mentioned something about 6th form attitudes somewhere, whilst throughout been posting himself infantile, shallow meaningless soundbites taken from the front of the Express.
FYI he wasn't funny the first time around.
He just had a couple of mates on here who would help him bully anyone who disagreed with him. |  |
| |
| Hypothetically speaking on 22:20 - Feb 23 with 612 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Hypothetically speaking on 11:26 - Feb 23 by blueasfook |
Racism against white people is clearly far less tolerable in this country.
There's a suprise eh! |
Ffs |  | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 22:21 - Feb 23 with 608 views | jeera |
Meet Dim as Fook. | |
| |
| Hypothetically speaking on 22:23 - Feb 23 with 592 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Hypothetically speaking on 11:48 - Feb 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
If he was vigorously campaigning for Remain and then left, never to return, your analogy might work a bit better. As it is, it's akin to an unused sub popping to the loo.
I'm not NOW calling it his neutrality. He stated it himself at the time. He said he'd let voters make their own mind up.
He didn't play the political game - which probably helped his downfall - but I admire him for sticking to his principles. Unfortunately the Great British Public didn't want a principled person in charge. So there we go. |
So the fact he was neutral on Brexit is a good thing? Principled? Like Farage and Gove | | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 22:23 - Feb 23 with 590 views | jeera |
| Hypothetically speaking on 22:04 - Feb 23 by MattinLondon |
There’s been a couple others who were supposed board legends but failed in their comeback. One was (I think) belstead. The other one - I have forgotten their username - but he posted something about Londoners being very unfriendly. Then he disappeared with his tail between his legs. |
" board legends".
Self-proclaimed with a few sycophants.
I did like Bill though, not sure what happened to the old him.
Maybe a change of username did it. | |
| |
| Hypothetically speaking on 22:26 - Feb 23 with 565 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Hypothetically speaking on 12:33 - Feb 23 by blueasfook |
Not claiming to be a political heavyweight, just dont like voting for traitors. |
Like the party funded by Oligarchs? | | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 22:30 - Feb 23 with 554 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Hypothetically speaking on 13:25 - Feb 23 by blueasfook |
Not in govt positions. It's about power.
Aww, but it must be nice in your naive little world. Do you believe in tellytubbies too? |
Must be cosy tarring everyone with the same brush with lazy generalisations rather than judging people on their merits and actions. More Tweenies like | | | |
| Hypothetically speaking on 22:31 - Feb 23 with 552 views | jeera |
| Hypothetically speaking on 22:30 - Feb 23 by reusersfreekicks |
Must be cosy tarring everyone with the same brush with lazy generalisations rather than judging people on their merits and actions. More Tweenies like |
You are trying to reason with a man child.
Stop wasting your time. | |
| |
| These threads are great.... on 22:32 - Feb 23 with 546 views | reusersfreekicks |
| These threads are great.... on 14:34 - Feb 23 by Darth_Koont |
Mullet seems more and more world-weary than worldly wise.
I thought he had more spunk than that. But he’s turning into just another jaded, cynical reactionary who doesn’t think anything of substance can or should change. That’s what these people call the real world rather than understanding it’s just another perception they can change if they want to. |
Streuth so all knowing and patronising | | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
