| KMac still has a bit to do with this team 16:11 - Mar 27 with 4054 views | Darth_Koont |
Yesterday’s overall performance was so good, and Plymouth barely landed a glove, but the concern about creating and converting enough chances still remains.
No blame attached as I don’t think it’s anything that has been particularly in his power given these are the strikers/attackers he inherited. But the result is that, despite settling the defensive side and making us much tougher to crack, we’re still only 3rd in the form league for McKenna’s 17 games.
Hopefully we can still squeeze into the playoffs and then I think our solidity would be a massive advantage. But more likely we’re looking at the next season in League One with a need to have our attack firing so that we are legitimately leading the way as the top 1 or 2 teams in the division.
The good news is that I’m confident of a good transfer window with McKenna in charge. I think if he’s allowed to address our attack and build it around 2 or 3 key players (Burns, Chaplin and ?) then I think we’ll be more enough for this division. And will be interesting to see if he can get something out of Harper, Edwards, El Mizouni, Dobra etc. with a clean slate and coming into a pretty solid structure otherwise.
A consistently performing, lynchpin striker who can give the attack a focal point and weigh in with 10 or more goals looks absolutely vital though. And I don’t really feel we have that at present or at least that Pigott can turn his Town career around to do that.
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:18 - Mar 27 with 3145 views | itfcsuth |
The manager can set out a tactical game plan, but he can’t put the ball in the back of the net for the players.
The tactical approach that McKenna has implemented is as close to perfect as you will get, and the players are executing week after week as close to perfect as you will find.
Burns finishes his chance - a chance we’ve seen him slot away many times this season, the game reflects the most comfortable 2-0 victory you will see, against 4th in the division, unbeaten in 6 without conceding.
I think we will look at 2 strikers in the summer - I’ve made my suggestions known I’d be looking at Mo Eisa and Troy Parrott.
But we are near perfect right now. |  | | |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:28 - Mar 27 with 3092 views | Darth_Koont |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:18 - Mar 27 by itfcsuth |
The manager can set out a tactical game plan, but he can’t put the ball in the back of the net for the players.
The tactical approach that McKenna has implemented is as close to perfect as you will get, and the players are executing week after week as close to perfect as you will find.
Burns finishes his chance - a chance we’ve seen him slot away many times this season, the game reflects the most comfortable 2-0 victory you will see, against 4th in the division, unbeaten in 6 without conceding.
I think we will look at 2 strikers in the summer - I’ve made my suggestions known I’d be looking at Mo Eisa and Troy Parrott.
But we are near perfect right now. |
Sure. But I think we’re not nearly as clinical as we need to be. In our finishing but actually just butchering a few too many opportunities to create a relatively clean chance.
This is all season too. Even with Cook’s team with more players in attack that was about trying to get on the front foot and stay there.
It’s just not quite there. | |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:29 - Mar 27 with 3075 views | SheffordBlue |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:18 - Mar 27 by itfcsuth |
The manager can set out a tactical game plan, but he can’t put the ball in the back of the net for the players.
The tactical approach that McKenna has implemented is as close to perfect as you will get, and the players are executing week after week as close to perfect as you will find.
Burns finishes his chance - a chance we’ve seen him slot away many times this season, the game reflects the most comfortable 2-0 victory you will see, against 4th in the division, unbeaten in 6 without conceding.
I think we will look at 2 strikers in the summer - I’ve made my suggestions known I’d be looking at Mo Eisa and Troy Parrott.
But we are near perfect right now. |
It wouldn't surprise me to see an Aluko/Carroll type striker signing. Older player with Prem experience. Not to be a regular starter but to have some real quality in the group and to be do a shift every now and then |  |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:35 - Mar 27 with 3049 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Plymouth had not conceded a single goal in the last 6 matches. As well as scoring, we created a number of other chances.
However, we didn't make their keeper make a difficult save and we do need to convert more of our play into shots on target. I think some of our decision making was wrong on when to shoot and when to pass/cross. I really don't think we are far away at all. Get it right over the last 6-9 matches of the season and we might be in the Championship next season. |  |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:38 - Mar 27 with 3035 views | tractorboy1978 |
This squad only gets better over the summer with a full pre season under McKenna and no doubt a couple of attacking additions. We are 2nd in the form table since McKenna arrived so legitimately performing as a automatic promotion side. | | | |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:43 - Mar 27 with 2979 views | Darth_Koont |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:38 - Mar 27 by tractorboy1978 |
This squad only gets better over the summer with a full pre season under McKenna and no doubt a couple of attacking additions. We are 2nd in the form table since McKenna arrived so legitimately performing as a automatic promotion side. |
Hasn’t it been 16 league games with Kmac in charge? On that we’re 6th. | |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:45 - Mar 27 with 2965 views | tractorboy1978 |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:43 - Mar 27 by Darth_Koont |
Hasn’t it been 16 league games with Kmac in charge? On that we’re 6th. |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:47 - Mar 27 with 2956 views | Illinoisblue |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:28 - Mar 27 by Darth_Koont |
Sure. But I think we’re not nearly as clinical as we need to be. In our finishing but actually just butchering a few too many opportunities to create a relatively clean chance.
This is all season too. Even with Cook’s team with more players in attack that was about trying to get on the front foot and stay there.
It’s just not quite there. |
Aside from Gillingham away we haven’t really given anyone a battering, at least not in terms of score line. We’re dominating for sure but if you don’t score enough you’re always vulnerable to dropping points. Summer transfers will be very interesting re the strikers… they might all be gone by August. |  |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:04 - Mar 27 with 2857 views | Darth_Koont |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:45 - Mar 27 by tractorboy1978 |
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Sorry! You’re right. Just checked again and I miscounted.
17 games and we’re 3rd in the form table. Although the teams ahead and around us have been doing similar for double that time.
Either way, we need to do better against those other promotion teams and finish our chances if we’re going to finish in the top2 next season. We arguably dropped 5 points against Sunderland through poor finishing and should never have come out of those two games 3 points in arrears. | |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:07 - Mar 27 with 2838 views | homer_123 |
Back in Feb I said:
Remains as true now - this is pretty much it - for me at least - we create enough, we look more than solid enough. We just don't quite hit the back of the net enough. |  |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:12 - Mar 27 with 2796 views | tractorboy1978 |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:04 - Mar 27 by Darth_Koont |
Sorry! You’re right. Just checked again and I miscounted.
17 games and we’re 3rd in the form table. Although the teams ahead and around us have been doing similar for double that time.
Either way, we need to do better against those other promotion teams and finish our chances if we’re going to finish in the top2 next season. We arguably dropped 5 points against Sunderland through poor finishing and should never have come out of those two games 3 points in arrears. |
Yes definitely need to sharpen up in front of goal, but that should be fixed over the summer. We consistently dominate games in a manner that we haven't since Burley was in charge. Conceding 6 goals in 17 games is outrageous - we rarely have chances created against us. Plymouth are a side that had won 6 in a row without conceding and we made them look silly in the first half. | | | |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:13 - Mar 27 with 2798 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
over the 17 matches KM has been in charge, we are 3rd in the form table. But even that doesn't tell the whole story for 2 reasons: (i) we have taken draws when we really should have got the win more than once) and (ii) the losses were in his 3rd and 6th games in charge - before he had had time to get his coaching embedded, and we have been improving over the subsequent games. It is very telling what other managers are saying about us now. Karl Robinson said he hopes we don't get into the playoffs, as they couldn't find a way to handle us (esp Burns).
Two very winnable games upcoming, but we need Sunderland, Sheff Weds, Wycombe to drop points. If we win those two, then all of a sudden into games v Rotherham, who are wobbling, and Wigan, are massive. The thing that gives me hope is that I really believe now we are undoubtedly the best team in the league, and I think the players all believe that and are playing with total confidence. Dare I say it, I think it is gonna come down to little bits of luck - if we get a couple of breaks, whether that is other teams results, or decisions going our way, I think we can still do it. If we make the Play Offs, I would be more confident that in any other play offs we've been in. |  |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:16 - Mar 27 with 2782 views | Darth_Koont |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:07 - Mar 27 by homer_123 |
Back in Feb I said:
Remains as true now - this is pretty much it - for me at least - we create enough, we look more than solid enough. We just don't quite hit the back of the net enough. |
Glad I don’t have to find him/them. On the basis of this season, you’d say Will Keane was a great shout. On the basis of last season, Pigott. And then what’s happened to Bonne after his flying start?
Strikers seem very luck based and it’s only afterwards you can work out whether you got the right player at the right time. | |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:24 - Mar 27 with 2717 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:16 - Mar 27 by Darth_Koont |
Glad I don’t have to find him/them. On the basis of this season, you’d say Will Keane was a great shout. On the basis of last season, Pigott. And then what’s happened to Bonne after his flying start?
Strikers seem very luck based and it’s only afterwards you can work out whether you got the right player at the right time. |
Is part of the problem that the strikers cant get up quick enough to meet Burns' crosses? We seem to have had several crosses from the byline that just evade the toe of the striker steaming in. Maybe Kayden is the ideal striker, cos those crosses are tap ins if they can get there in time. Or maybe Wes needs to improve the accuracy of his final cross a bit more? Hard to find any criticism of Wes, but if there is one I think this is it. | |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:48 - Mar 27 with 2622 views | IpswichKnight |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:18 - Mar 27 by itfcsuth |
The manager can set out a tactical game plan, but he can’t put the ball in the back of the net for the players.
The tactical approach that McKenna has implemented is as close to perfect as you will get, and the players are executing week after week as close to perfect as you will find.
Burns finishes his chance - a chance we’ve seen him slot away many times this season, the game reflects the most comfortable 2-0 victory you will see, against 4th in the division, unbeaten in 6 without conceding.
I think we will look at 2 strikers in the summer - I’ve made my suggestions known I’d be looking at Mo Eisa and Troy Parrott.
But we are near perfect right now. |
We’ll be aiming at better strikers than them, championship and PL reserve would be my guess along with keeping Jackson. | | | |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:53 - Mar 27 with 2604 views | Dubtractor |
No question that we need to be more clinical in the final third, and it isn't just about finishing chances, it is about creating better chances from the positions we get into.
That game yesterday should have been put to bed by half time, and it's far from the first time that has happened. We're talking about fine tuning a VERY effective system here though.
That we're so good defensively whilst still playing a very attacking style of play is really impressive though. |  |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:54 - Mar 27 with 2599 views | itfcsuth |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:29 - Mar 27 by SheffordBlue |
It wouldn't surprise me to see an Aluko/Carroll type striker signing. Older player with Prem experience. Not to be a regular starter but to have some real quality in the group and to be do a shift every now and then |
I think you are right.
I saw somebody mention Shane Long, I think that could be a good fit - a workhorse leading the line, still looks in fantastic condition, would fit the dynamic, good presser KM seems to like leading the line.
Maybe Shane Long & Troy Parrott, as well as retaining Kayden Jackson. | | | |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:55 - Mar 27 with 2589 views | pointofblue |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:24 - Mar 27 by LegendofthePhoenix |
Is part of the problem that the strikers cant get up quick enough to meet Burns' crosses? We seem to have had several crosses from the byline that just evade the toe of the striker steaming in. Maybe Kayden is the ideal striker, cos those crosses are tap ins if they can get there in time. Or maybe Wes needs to improve the accuracy of his final cross a bit more? Hard to find any criticism of Wes, but if there is one I think this is it. |
My big issue is we seem to have so few options in the box when the ball is out wide - more often that not our attacking players are outnumbered by defenders by five or six players excluding the keeper. Maybe it’s our way of keeping it tight at the back but that’s the issue. | |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 18:36 - Mar 27 with 2447 views | Darth_Koont |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:53 - Mar 27 by Dubtractor |
No question that we need to be more clinical in the final third, and it isn't just about finishing chances, it is about creating better chances from the positions we get into.
That game yesterday should have been put to bed by half time, and it's far from the first time that has happened. We're talking about fine tuning a VERY effective system here though.
That we're so good defensively whilst still playing a very attacking style of play is really impressive though. |
Absolutely!
It’s fine-tuning but arguably needing a different kind of player or two. We’ve played with 2 strikers in all sorts of combinations, and one striker as a targetman like Bonne, one striker as a runner like Jackson and one striker with Norwood who is a bit of both. Also with Chaplin as a support striker on occasions.
Not sure any have worked massively better than the others but get the right player or two to help us find a solid Plan A and a workable Plan B and I think we’d be flying. | |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 19:06 - Mar 27 with 2316 views | NthQldITFC |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 16:35 - Mar 27 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Plymouth had not conceded a single goal in the last 6 matches. As well as scoring, we created a number of other chances.
However, we didn't make their keeper make a difficult save and we do need to convert more of our play into shots on target. I think some of our decision making was wrong on when to shoot and when to pass/cross. I really don't think we are far away at all. Get it right over the last 6-9 matches of the season and we might be in the Championship next season. |
As you say, we're not far away at all. It's not like something radical needs to be done, it's just that probably two players Bonne and/or Norwood and one more need to hit a rich vein of scoring all of a sudden. Both of those two have done it before, both have it well within them, and it's only a small thing for it suddenly to click for nine more games.
As to next season the attack needs refreshing, but it's a small change for it suddenly to click now.
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 19:15 - Mar 27 with 2304 views | Coastalblue |
I wouldn't be at all surprosed to see Jackson, a young Prem loanee and an experienced head, maybe dropping down a division as our frontline options next season. |  |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 00:15 - Mar 28 with 1853 views | textbackup |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 17:55 - Mar 27 by pointofblue |
My big issue is we seem to have so few options in the box when the ball is out wide - more often that not our attacking players are outnumbered by defenders by five or six players excluding the keeper. Maybe it’s our way of keeping it tight at the back but that’s the issue. |
i dont know about that, i had to watch on tv yesterday, and so many times the men out wide had 3/4 players to pick out arriving in the box, but the crosses were poor. |  |
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| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 10:51 - Mar 28 with 1591 views | Lower_North |
| KMac still has a bit to do with this team on 00:15 - Mar 28 by textbackup |
i dont know about that, i had to watch on tv yesterday, and so many times the men out wide had 3/4 players to pick out arriving in the box, but the crosses were poor. |
You're right Mr Backup.
How many times does Sir Wes Burns get in behind only to fire the bloody thing so hard across the box no one can get on the end of it? Pick a man out , cut it back.
PS He is my Player of the season BTW | | | |
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