| Has everyone calmed down now? 07:44 - Apr 4 with 7734 views | Steve_M |
We weren't very good on Saturday, both individually and collectively and Cambridge played very well. I'm not sure it really told us anything that we don't already know: chiefly that our strikers aren't playing well enough and we need to do more from set pieces.
We don't need big changes to our approach, we don't need to be hoofing the ball to two big forwards to compete in this division but we do need to play better against teams who play their game plan well and are good at sh1thousing. Having seen us totally dominate Oxford and largely dominate Portsmouth despite the amount of sh1thousing those two did it's far more about us playing well than not being able to cope with it.
Shame this season is done now, would have liked to keep it going until Easter at least but 2022-23 should finally be the year we get it right. |  |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 19:16 - Apr 4 with 1628 views | pointofblue |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 18:37 - Apr 4 by patrickswell |
Factor in the 18 points dropped from winning positions under Cook and the margin for error in trying to make up the play offs was always going to be a small one. |
And yet other teams have managed to pick up points in game after game, against the same opposition we struggle to score against. Yes, Cook definitely hamstrung our season and hurt it badly but were the play offs a pipe dream? I don't know. |  |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 20:04 - Apr 4 with 1576 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 19:16 - Apr 4 by pointofblue |
And yet other teams have managed to pick up points in game after game, against the same opposition we struggle to score against. Yes, Cook definitely hamstrung our season and hurt it badly but were the play offs a pipe dream? I don't know. |
It's an interesting view.
You can look at it both ways really
On one hand you have a young inexperienced manager having his first chance taking on a side who were miles off where they wanted to be and its never easy taking on a club halfway through a season.
On the other. He took on a side which people say financially is stronger than others, bigger squad than most with some 'easy' games mixed in with others and something which looked a long way off.. actually wasn't as out of reach as first thought but we threw the chance away with continued failure to beat those around us and throw away points against lower sides.
It's a tough one as ppg he's done a great job. It's just that nagging feeling we messed up the chance offered to us to finish in that top 6 and still couldn't put 3 wins together.
I'm caught between the two tbh. I think we will go up next season. Very confident in that. But should we still have done better this season? Despite the PC start... [Post edited 4 Apr 2022 20:07]
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 20:39 - Apr 4 with 1541 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 08:42 - Apr 4 by itfcjoe |
There is a huge overreaction every time we drop points now - if only the same scrutiny was being applied this time last year and early in the season
We are a very good side, but need a bit more of the right type of players in a couple of key positions and sometimes that will hurt us. We weren't particularly poor on Saturday, just up against a side who were well organised and able to hurt us at times |
Some expect us to be the invincibles and cry when we drop points. KM has performed in a way that would likely get us promoted, if he had a whole season.
We have obvious weaknesses to address. But some acting like we won't lose one game after 10 undefeated, when our previous best unbeaten run was 4, is absurd. |  |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:26 - Apr 5 with 1435 views | itfcjoe |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 19:16 - Apr 4 by pointofblue |
And yet other teams have managed to pick up points in game after game, against the same opposition we struggle to score against. Yes, Cook definitely hamstrung our season and hurt it badly but were the play offs a pipe dream? I don't know. |
It looks like we are going to need 80 points to get 6th place.
When McKenna started (i.e. after Sunderland) we had 29 points after 23 games - that means to make the play offs we'd have had to get 51 points in 23 games.
So the equivalent of a 100 point season for half a season.
Since the EFL was rebranded in 2004/05 to Championship, League 1 and League2 there have been 51 completed seasons - out of those seasons just 6 sides have got 100 points or more.
So yes, getting to 80 points was a pipe dream. Getting to 75 points was always going to be impressive and we look as though we will do |  |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:30 - Apr 5 with 1429 views | textbackup |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:26 - Apr 5 by itfcjoe |
It looks like we are going to need 80 points to get 6th place.
When McKenna started (i.e. after Sunderland) we had 29 points after 23 games - that means to make the play offs we'd have had to get 51 points in 23 games.
So the equivalent of a 100 point season for half a season.
Since the EFL was rebranded in 2004/05 to Championship, League 1 and League2 there have been 51 completed seasons - out of those seasons just 6 sides have got 100 points or more.
So yes, getting to 80 points was a pipe dream. Getting to 75 points was always going to be impressive and we look as though we will do |
has there have been an 80 point requirement to get 6th before?
seems just our luck that we could end season on 75/76 which normally would be suffice.
(i say luck, what i mean was PC was pretty shocking so we had a huge uphill struggle) |  |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:31 - Apr 5 with 1427 views | itfcjoe |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:30 - Apr 5 by textbackup |
has there have been an 80 point requirement to get 6th before?
seems just our luck that we could end season on 75/76 which normally would be suffice.
(i say luck, what i mean was PC was pretty shocking so we had a huge uphill struggle) |
Highest I can remember is last time we got in play offs in 14/15 - we finished 6th with 78 points, Wolves missed out on Goal Difference and Derby finished 8th with 77 points.
Seems a couple of posters want to constantly criticise McKenna over little bits, they obviously didn't see how poor we were under Cook at the end, or at Charlton or Barrow after he'd gone | |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:35 - Apr 5 with 1421 views | textbackup |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:31 - Apr 5 by itfcjoe |
Highest I can remember is last time we got in play offs in 14/15 - we finished 6th with 78 points, Wolves missed out on Goal Difference and Derby finished 8th with 77 points.
Seems a couple of posters want to constantly criticise McKenna over little bits, they obviously didn't see how poor we were under Cook at the end, or at Charlton or Barrow after he'd gone |
to moan at KMc is just lazy and stupid. yes we've dropped points, but very few and far between.... with a team he took on. and improved massively.
moon on a stick and all that. | |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:36 - Apr 5 with 1416 views | itfcjoe |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:35 - Apr 5 by textbackup |
to moan at KMc is just lazy and stupid. yes we've dropped points, but very few and far between.... with a team he took on. and improved massively.
moon on a stick and all that. |
If people are going to games and can't see what is being built, how we are controlling games and the like then football probably isn't for them | |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:41 - Apr 5 with 1407 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 20:04 - Apr 4 by FrimleyBlue |
It's an interesting view.
You can look at it both ways really
On one hand you have a young inexperienced manager having his first chance taking on a side who were miles off where they wanted to be and its never easy taking on a club halfway through a season.
On the other. He took on a side which people say financially is stronger than others, bigger squad than most with some 'easy' games mixed in with others and something which looked a long way off.. actually wasn't as out of reach as first thought but we threw the chance away with continued failure to beat those around us and throw away points against lower sides.
It's a tough one as ppg he's done a great job. It's just that nagging feeling we messed up the chance offered to us to finish in that top 6 and still couldn't put 3 wins together.
I'm caught between the two tbh. I think we will go up next season. Very confident in that. But should we still have done better this season? Despite the PC start... [Post edited 4 Apr 2022 20:07]
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Not sure we've had any "chance offered to us". We've had to work extremely hard to still be 9th. 35 points from 18 games is equivalent form that would have won us the division last year and we've not got any closer to the play offs with it. As Joe said below, we'd have needed the equivalent form of a 100 point season (probably) to make the top 6.
People were also keen to say Cook needed time to get the team to gel into his way of playing but McKenna seems to have instantly implemented his ideas with good success. We are only going to get better over the summer and with more time on the training ground. [Post edited 5 Apr 2022 10:43]
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:41 - Apr 5 with 1407 views | Bluroo |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 18:27 - Apr 4 by pointofblue |
I understand what you're saying but if we'd beaten Cambridge we would have been three points off the play offs, albeit with Sunderland having a game in hand. Then take into account the limp performance against Cheltenham, failure to hit a cow's backside with a banjo at Morecambe and the last minute equaliser against Oxford ... suddenly that's an extra six points and we're three points ahead of the Black Cats instead of six behind. We'd actually be ahead of Wednesday too. And I'm not even taking into account the matches against Portsmouth or MK Dons. This is McKenna's tenure alone.
So I'm not sure whether the play offs were a pipe dream or a very possible target which we allowed to slip through our fingers.
(In response to the OPs question, have I calmed down now? Um, maybe not) |
In McKenna's 18 games in charge, we're 6th, 3 points of Automatic.
He's achieved that based on inheriting an unbalanced and rudderless squad of players, several of whom are not of the type or calibre that he would have signed (or kept) to fit his system and only 2 weeks before the transfer window giving little time to identify and rectify matters... That he's managed to coach and LIFT the team to the level he has, is more than we could have expected.
I do not think it's unreasonable to suggest that with a summer to revise the squad to fit his system and further embed his vision on the training pitch might conjure a further slight improvement in form, say by 3 points over an 18 game period...
Who knows, but the idea that McKenna's form is in any way responsible for missing out on promotion this season is absurd. Had Cook not left us adrift and out of sorts, the par dropped points at this stage would not be crucial. In the same way that Rotherham have been beaten 3-0 at home by Shrewsbury and 4-2 by Fleetwood, yet they're still in an auto spot... | | | |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:41 - Apr 5 with 1405 views | hype313 |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:26 - Apr 5 by itfcjoe |
It looks like we are going to need 80 points to get 6th place.
When McKenna started (i.e. after Sunderland) we had 29 points after 23 games - that means to make the play offs we'd have had to get 51 points in 23 games.
So the equivalent of a 100 point season for half a season.
Since the EFL was rebranded in 2004/05 to Championship, League 1 and League2 there have been 51 completed seasons - out of those seasons just 6 sides have got 100 points or more.
So yes, getting to 80 points was a pipe dream. Getting to 75 points was always going to be impressive and we look as though we will do |
Indeed, if people want to know why McKenna had such a huge job on his hands, here's a reminder.
Morecambe 2-2 Ipswich
Burton Albion 2—1 Ipswich Town
Cheltenham Town2—1 Ipswich Town
Ipswich Town 2—2 Milton Keynes Dons
Ipswich Town 2—2 AFC Wimbledon
Ipswich Town 2—5 Bolton Wanderers
3 points from a possible 18 for our opening 6 games. It was always going to be a struggle to catch up. |  |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:43 - Apr 5 with 1398 views | peterleeblue |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:35 - Apr 5 by textbackup |
to moan at KMc is just lazy and stupid. yes we've dropped points, but very few and far between.... with a team he took on. and improved massively.
moon on a stick and all that. |
I think the Moon on a Stick issue is the now near 20 years of total decline. We finally seem to click and are going to fall short again. Its frustration more than anything else.
Lets hope we are flying in November and this weeks realisation of another year of league 1 will be well forgotten |  | | |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 11:28 - Apr 5 with 1360 views | BiGDonnie |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 20:04 - Apr 4 by FrimleyBlue |
It's an interesting view.
You can look at it both ways really
On one hand you have a young inexperienced manager having his first chance taking on a side who were miles off where they wanted to be and its never easy taking on a club halfway through a season.
On the other. He took on a side which people say financially is stronger than others, bigger squad than most with some 'easy' games mixed in with others and something which looked a long way off.. actually wasn't as out of reach as first thought but we threw the chance away with continued failure to beat those around us and throw away points against lower sides.
It's a tough one as ppg he's done a great job. It's just that nagging feeling we messed up the chance offered to us to finish in that top 6 and still couldn't put 3 wins together.
I'm caught between the two tbh. I think we will go up next season. Very confident in that. But should we still have done better this season? Despite the PC start... [Post edited 4 Apr 2022 20:07]
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Oh dear, you really don't have a clue do you? |  |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 11:31 - Apr 5 with 1359 views | footers |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 11:28 - Apr 5 by BiGDonnie |
Oh dear, you really don't have a clue do you? |
Never seen someone talk so much unfiltered squit in all my life. It's quite something really. |  |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 11:36 - Apr 5 with 1349 views | hype313 |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 11:31 - Apr 5 by footers |
Never seen someone talk so much unfiltered squit in all my life. It's quite something really. |
He's like a poundland Adrian Durham. | |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 12:34 - Apr 5 with 1323 views | pointofblue |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:41 - Apr 5 by Bluroo |
In McKenna's 18 games in charge, we're 6th, 3 points of Automatic.
He's achieved that based on inheriting an unbalanced and rudderless squad of players, several of whom are not of the type or calibre that he would have signed (or kept) to fit his system and only 2 weeks before the transfer window giving little time to identify and rectify matters... That he's managed to coach and LIFT the team to the level he has, is more than we could have expected.
I do not think it's unreasonable to suggest that with a summer to revise the squad to fit his system and further embed his vision on the training pitch might conjure a further slight improvement in form, say by 3 points over an 18 game period...
Who knows, but the idea that McKenna's form is in any way responsible for missing out on promotion this season is absurd. Had Cook not left us adrift and out of sorts, the par dropped points at this stage would not be crucial. In the same way that Rotherham have been beaten 3-0 at home by Shrewsbury and 4-2 by Fleetwood, yet they're still in an auto spot... |
I’m getting tired of hearing how bad this squad is. Cook failed miserably with it but it’s still the best in the division. If you don’t think so, which squad, at the start of the season, would you have switched it with given the opportunity? Would there be more than one? Is this squad really the ninth best squad in League One, or sixth taking into account McKenna’s run? Did we head into this season thinking that we’d struggle to score against the likes of Cheltenham, Morecambe and Cambridge?
So the state of the squad, for me, should not be used as an excuse. 21 goals from 18 games (a third of those coming in two matches) is a pitiful return considering the attacking players we have on our books. Defensively we’ve been great, some of our football has been fantastic to watch but key component of winning has been missing.
The two decisions which bug me is changing the winning line ups from the Burton and Plymouth games. Why split up Jackson and Pigott straight after the former gave an interview saying how they were learning how to gel on the pitch? Why pick Carroll ahead of Bakinson? This isn’t hindsight; both looked baffling to me when the team sheets came out. And they led to, Wednesday aside where there were mitigating circumstances with us playing an inexperienced midfield out of necessity, our worst performances under McKenna.
I’m sorry if this makes it sound like I believe McKenna has been a disaster - he hasn’t. Of course he hasn’t. Overall he’s done very well considering what he came in. But when we look back on this season and our failure to make the play offs will there be games from McKenna’s tenure which have cost us? Yes, without a doubt. Some unfortunate to an extent (Portsmouth and Oxford) but some through our own deficiencies (Cheltenham, Morecambe and Cambridge). In the end, the issue we’ve had since Lambert at this level hasn’t gone away; when teams try and play football against us we’re fine, but when they sit deep we look clueless.
(I haven’t got over the draw against Cheltenham yet so it’ll be a long time before I’m over Saturday!) | |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 14:09 - Apr 5 with 1285 views | Bluroo |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 12:34 - Apr 5 by pointofblue |
I’m getting tired of hearing how bad this squad is. Cook failed miserably with it but it’s still the best in the division. If you don’t think so, which squad, at the start of the season, would you have switched it with given the opportunity? Would there be more than one? Is this squad really the ninth best squad in League One, or sixth taking into account McKenna’s run? Did we head into this season thinking that we’d struggle to score against the likes of Cheltenham, Morecambe and Cambridge?
So the state of the squad, for me, should not be used as an excuse. 21 goals from 18 games (a third of those coming in two matches) is a pitiful return considering the attacking players we have on our books. Defensively we’ve been great, some of our football has been fantastic to watch but key component of winning has been missing.
The two decisions which bug me is changing the winning line ups from the Burton and Plymouth games. Why split up Jackson and Pigott straight after the former gave an interview saying how they were learning how to gel on the pitch? Why pick Carroll ahead of Bakinson? This isn’t hindsight; both looked baffling to me when the team sheets came out. And they led to, Wednesday aside where there were mitigating circumstances with us playing an inexperienced midfield out of necessity, our worst performances under McKenna.
I’m sorry if this makes it sound like I believe McKenna has been a disaster - he hasn’t. Of course he hasn’t. Overall he’s done very well considering what he came in. But when we look back on this season and our failure to make the play offs will there be games from McKenna’s tenure which have cost us? Yes, without a doubt. Some unfortunate to an extent (Portsmouth and Oxford) but some through our own deficiencies (Cheltenham, Morecambe and Cambridge). In the end, the issue we’ve had since Lambert at this level hasn’t gone away; when teams try and play football against us we’re fine, but when they sit deep we look clueless.
(I haven’t got over the draw against Cheltenham yet so it’ll be a long time before I’m over Saturday!) |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 14:33 - Apr 5 with 1254 views | pointofblue |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 14:09 - Apr 5 by Bluroo |
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Thanks for the detailed response. | |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 15:09 - Apr 5 with 1232 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 12:34 - Apr 5 by pointofblue |
I’m getting tired of hearing how bad this squad is. Cook failed miserably with it but it’s still the best in the division. If you don’t think so, which squad, at the start of the season, would you have switched it with given the opportunity? Would there be more than one? Is this squad really the ninth best squad in League One, or sixth taking into account McKenna’s run? Did we head into this season thinking that we’d struggle to score against the likes of Cheltenham, Morecambe and Cambridge?
So the state of the squad, for me, should not be used as an excuse. 21 goals from 18 games (a third of those coming in two matches) is a pitiful return considering the attacking players we have on our books. Defensively we’ve been great, some of our football has been fantastic to watch but key component of winning has been missing.
The two decisions which bug me is changing the winning line ups from the Burton and Plymouth games. Why split up Jackson and Pigott straight after the former gave an interview saying how they were learning how to gel on the pitch? Why pick Carroll ahead of Bakinson? This isn’t hindsight; both looked baffling to me when the team sheets came out. And they led to, Wednesday aside where there were mitigating circumstances with us playing an inexperienced midfield out of necessity, our worst performances under McKenna.
I’m sorry if this makes it sound like I believe McKenna has been a disaster - he hasn’t. Of course he hasn’t. Overall he’s done very well considering what he came in. But when we look back on this season and our failure to make the play offs will there be games from McKenna’s tenure which have cost us? Yes, without a doubt. Some unfortunate to an extent (Portsmouth and Oxford) but some through our own deficiencies (Cheltenham, Morecambe and Cambridge). In the end, the issue we’ve had since Lambert at this level hasn’t gone away; when teams try and play football against us we’re fine, but when they sit deep we look clueless.
(I haven’t got over the draw against Cheltenham yet so it’ll be a long time before I’m over Saturday!) |
Picking up 35 points in 18 games straight off the bat should be impressive by anyone's standards. He's come in half way through the season and changed the way we play in a very quick period of time. If you'd been offered 2ppg until the end of the season from the day McKenna came in, you'd have been more than happy with that surely? That many of the teams already above us have been well coached from the start of the season and have continued to average 2ppg is not within his control.
Micro-analysing individual games and moments is ultimately a bit futile, you have to look at the bigger picture.
For comparison, Manning picked up 33 points in his first 18 games at MK Dons and they are now going from strength to strength. I see that being us next season after a summer on the training pitch and a couple of new signings. [Post edited 5 Apr 2022 15:11]
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 17:50 - Apr 5 with 1160 views | pointofblue |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 15:09 - Apr 5 by tractorboy1978 |
Picking up 35 points in 18 games straight off the bat should be impressive by anyone's standards. He's come in half way through the season and changed the way we play in a very quick period of time. If you'd been offered 2ppg until the end of the season from the day McKenna came in, you'd have been more than happy with that surely? That many of the teams already above us have been well coached from the start of the season and have continued to average 2ppg is not within his control.
Micro-analysing individual games and moments is ultimately a bit futile, you have to look at the bigger picture.
For comparison, Manning picked up 33 points in his first 18 games at MK Dons and they are now going from strength to strength. I see that being us next season after a summer on the training pitch and a couple of new signings. [Post edited 5 Apr 2022 15:11]
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Logically, you're right. Cambridge just feels like a cumulation of our issues we still have brought to the for. With the attacking players we have why do we find scoring such an issue? Is it tactical, is it in training? Guess our hope is we work it out because we will concede goals and we'll need to strike back.
As an aside, interestingly you mentioned MK Dons - they have only scored three more goals than us and conceded two more over the last 18 matches but have picked up six points more than us. | |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 19:33 - Apr 5 with 1130 views | JDB23 |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 12:34 - Apr 5 by pointofblue |
I’m getting tired of hearing how bad this squad is. Cook failed miserably with it but it’s still the best in the division. If you don’t think so, which squad, at the start of the season, would you have switched it with given the opportunity? Would there be more than one? Is this squad really the ninth best squad in League One, or sixth taking into account McKenna’s run? Did we head into this season thinking that we’d struggle to score against the likes of Cheltenham, Morecambe and Cambridge?
So the state of the squad, for me, should not be used as an excuse. 21 goals from 18 games (a third of those coming in two matches) is a pitiful return considering the attacking players we have on our books. Defensively we’ve been great, some of our football has been fantastic to watch but key component of winning has been missing.
The two decisions which bug me is changing the winning line ups from the Burton and Plymouth games. Why split up Jackson and Pigott straight after the former gave an interview saying how they were learning how to gel on the pitch? Why pick Carroll ahead of Bakinson? This isn’t hindsight; both looked baffling to me when the team sheets came out. And they led to, Wednesday aside where there were mitigating circumstances with us playing an inexperienced midfield out of necessity, our worst performances under McKenna.
I’m sorry if this makes it sound like I believe McKenna has been a disaster - he hasn’t. Of course he hasn’t. Overall he’s done very well considering what he came in. But when we look back on this season and our failure to make the play offs will there be games from McKenna’s tenure which have cost us? Yes, without a doubt. Some unfortunate to an extent (Portsmouth and Oxford) but some through our own deficiencies (Cheltenham, Morecambe and Cambridge). In the end, the issue we’ve had since Lambert at this level hasn’t gone away; when teams try and play football against us we’re fine, but when they sit deep we look clueless.
(I haven’t got over the draw against Cheltenham yet so it’ll be a long time before I’m over Saturday!) |
I don’t think anything you’ve said here is that controversial. McKenna has done a great job but there was still room for us to be better. It’s all well and good pointing to 2ppg form over 15 games and extrapolating that over a season but it doesn’t work like that.
Our clean sheet record is not sustainable over 46 games but our lack of goals definitely is. Also he came in at a time when the squad knew each other and there was no fixture congestion, no guarantee that ppg would have been the same with a bunch of new players and a load of cup games to deal with at the start of a season.
He’s done a really great job and I’m loving the direction we are going, but people seem to think we’ve cracked it and we haven’t. If we carry on exactly as we are over 46 games next season we won’t finish top 2. I do have faith he will take us to the next level after a few additions and a full pre-season. | | | |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 22:29 - Apr 5 with 1100 views | Defender110 |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:31 - Apr 5 by itfcjoe |
Highest I can remember is last time we got in play offs in 14/15 - we finished 6th with 78 points, Wolves missed out on Goal Difference and Derby finished 8th with 77 points.
Seems a couple of posters want to constantly criticise McKenna over little bits, they obviously didn't see how poor we were under Cook at the end, or at Charlton or Barrow after he'd gone |
Exactly right. The game at Charlton was shocking and the Barrow game even worse.
I'm disappointed that we didn't make the playoffs, but McKenna has made an incredible transformation of the side with almost the same group of players that looked so woeful and out of their depth in the 2 games mentioned. | | | |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 11:08 - Apr 6 with 1027 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 17:50 - Apr 5 by pointofblue |
Logically, you're right. Cambridge just feels like a cumulation of our issues we still have brought to the for. With the attacking players we have why do we find scoring such an issue? Is it tactical, is it in training? Guess our hope is we work it out because we will concede goals and we'll need to strike back.
As an aside, interestingly you mentioned MK Dons - they have only scored three more goals than us and conceded two more over the last 18 matches but have picked up six points more than us. |
I think that shows you just how fine the margins are. We really aren't very far off at all. You cannot look at goals scored without looking at goals conceded and vice versa.
If you extrapolate goals scored and conceded under McKenna over 46 games it is:
54 scored
18 conceded
It's almost impossible that both of those numbers are not too low over 46 games. I'm sure McKenna will be working on the balance of the side over the summer. | | | |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 11:20 - Apr 6 with 1012 views | BiGDonnie |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 10:36 - Apr 5 by itfcjoe |
If people are going to games and can't see what is being built, how we are controlling games and the like then football probably isn't for them |
This is the problem, they don't go to games. | |
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| Has everyone calmed down now? on 11:22 - Apr 6 with 1009 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Has everyone calmed down now? on 19:33 - Apr 5 by JDB23 |
I don’t think anything you’ve said here is that controversial. McKenna has done a great job but there was still room for us to be better. It’s all well and good pointing to 2ppg form over 15 games and extrapolating that over a season but it doesn’t work like that.
Our clean sheet record is not sustainable over 46 games but our lack of goals definitely is. Also he came in at a time when the squad knew each other and there was no fixture congestion, no guarantee that ppg would have been the same with a bunch of new players and a load of cup games to deal with at the start of a season.
He’s done a really great job and I’m loving the direction we are going, but people seem to think we’ve cracked it and we haven’t. If we carry on exactly as we are over 46 games next season we won’t finish top 2. I do have faith he will take us to the next level after a few additions and a full pre-season. |
I don't see how you can conclude our goals against is not sustainable but our goals for are. We dominate the ball every week and we are having well into double figure attempts on goal (whether people think we are creating chances or not) every week.
We had 39 attempts on goal and 12 on target vs Cheltenham/Morecambe with an average of 69% possession and we scored 1 goal. That suggests poor finishing more than a real systematic problem.
Don't think we've fully 'cracked it' but we are miles better than we were this time 4 months ago and the improvement needed is very incremental. We don't look a side that is going to get involved in basketball games as we did under Cook - that really will get you nowhere. | | | |
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