| Can we now all agree 18:18 - Apr 18 with 10832 views | pennblue |
That sacking Paul cook has NOT worked out and in future we should give our managers a minimum of 2 transfer windows unless we are clearly bottom three
I am quite sure he would have got us top six as his style of play, when executed consistently would result in top two form |  |
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| (No subject) on 21:29 - Apr 18 with 1661 views | Illinoisblue |
| (No subject) on 21:28 - Apr 18 by J2BLUE |
No one is arguing with this. |
Mach is, in an empty room. |  |
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| (No subject) on 21:31 - Apr 18 with 1655 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| (No subject) on 21:16 - Apr 18 by Funge |
Who has given him a free pass (Spoiler - no-one). He clearly hasn't failed, unless his remit was to win every game. He took over from an absolute lemon in Cook; any clown can see we're miles better.
We're on 2 points a game, average, since he joined. Bad performances have been Wednesday, Gillingham (h), Cambridge and 2nd half of Rotherham. Every other game we've been mad dominant.
Scoring enough? No. 2 strikers and an LB, and this team is flying. |
If he hasn't got a free pass then why can't he be questioned? We're closer to the midtable than top 6.
We may have been 'mad dominant' but it is irrelevant when you don't score goals.
Yes couple of strikers and LB and the team may be flying. Hopefully the next LB will be much better than the current one he brought in last January.
And set-pieces have to be much, much better. [Post edited 18 Apr 2022 21:34]
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| (No subject) on 21:37 - Apr 18 with 1629 views | Funge |
| (No subject) on 21:31 - Apr 18 by Mach_foreignBlue |
If he hasn't got a free pass then why can't he be questioned? We're closer to the midtable than top 6.
We may have been 'mad dominant' but it is irrelevant when you don't score goals.
Yes couple of strikers and LB and the team may be flying. Hopefully the next LB will be much better than the current one he brought in last January.
And set-pieces have to be much, much better. [Post edited 18 Apr 2022 21:34]
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Fcking hell, this isn't difficult.
We are averaging 2 points a game under McK. We play 46 games a season, which would give us 92 points. Even in this nuts league this year, where everyone from 1st through to 10th seems to hardly drop points, that gets us up.
We are bossing games, and picking up points consistently, for the first time since we have been relegated. McK is doing what he is paid to do.
To reiterate, unless you expected him to win every single game since joining (which is mental), then it's difficult to levy too much criticism at McK over and above the usual standard 'game to game' stuff.
Clearly not irrelevant to be dominant when we're picking up points, is it? |  | | |
| (No subject) on 21:48 - Apr 18 with 1578 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| (No subject) on 21:37 - Apr 18 by Funge |
Fcking hell, this isn't difficult.
We are averaging 2 points a game under McK. We play 46 games a season, which would give us 92 points. Even in this nuts league this year, where everyone from 1st through to 10th seems to hardly drop points, that gets us up.
We are bossing games, and picking up points consistently, for the first time since we have been relegated. McK is doing what he is paid to do.
To reiterate, unless you expected him to win every single game since joining (which is mental), then it's difficult to levy too much criticism at McK over and above the usual standard 'game to game' stuff.
Clearly not irrelevant to be dominant when we're picking up points, is it? |
Dear me ! It is irrelevant when you don't score goals or create chances. Football is about scoring goals, are you aware of that? Why can't we kill the games off ? Add to this set-pieces. 4 months since he has been appointed and the set-pieces remain terrible. Have we had a single good corner for example?
Furthermore his ability to change games. Have you seen anything of this?
You may think it is all rosy. But there are some cracks that he has to address come summer. Tactics, some decent signings, ability to win in an ugly style. Plenty to do and fingers crossed he succeeds. | | | |
| (No subject) on 21:50 - Apr 18 with 1575 views | Funge |
| (No subject) on 21:48 - Apr 18 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Dear me ! It is irrelevant when you don't score goals or create chances. Football is about scoring goals, are you aware of that? Why can't we kill the games off ? Add to this set-pieces. 4 months since he has been appointed and the set-pieces remain terrible. Have we had a single good corner for example?
Furthermore his ability to change games. Have you seen anything of this?
You may think it is all rosy. But there are some cracks that he has to address come summer. Tactics, some decent signings, ability to win in an ugly style. Plenty to do and fingers crossed he succeeds. |
So you do expect him to win every game then. We got there in the end.
Cool, you're mad, peace. | | | |
| Can we now all agree on 21:51 - Apr 18 with 1568 views | davblue |
| Can we now all agree on 18:27 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
No. He defo needed to go.
I would again tho like to remind those who wanted him out and didnt like people who wanted him to succeed, that they are doing the same with KM as PC fans were.
Its not all rosey. Results have regressed, goal scoring is poor and our set pieces are still awful. We all however will hope this is something KM can sort out in the summer. |
The basis of McKenna’s team is much better. We are controlling games, generally, teams aren’t creating much against us and we look a much, much better coached team.
Going forward there’s lots to work on but we are a better team under McKenna than Cook’s team. |  | | |
| (No subject) on 21:53 - Apr 18 with 1567 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| (No subject) on 21:50 - Apr 18 by Funge |
So you do expect him to win every game then. We got there in the end.
Cool, you're mad, peace. |
Have I ever said anything about winning every single game? Don't put the words into my mouth that I have never said, right? Read carefully and don't twist the words. [Post edited 18 Apr 2022 21:54]
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| (No subject) on 21:56 - Apr 18 with 1506 views | FrimleyBlue |
| (No subject) on 21:37 - Apr 18 by Funge |
Fcking hell, this isn't difficult.
We are averaging 2 points a game under McK. We play 46 games a season, which would give us 92 points. Even in this nuts league this year, where everyone from 1st through to 10th seems to hardly drop points, that gets us up.
We are bossing games, and picking up points consistently, for the first time since we have been relegated. McK is doing what he is paid to do.
To reiterate, unless you expected him to win every single game since joining (which is mental), then it's difficult to levy too much criticism at McK over and above the usual standard 'game to game' stuff.
Clearly not irrelevant to be dominant when we're picking up points, is it? |
Won 3 in 10. Is that enough over a season to win promotion?
Truth is no knows what will happen next season. So rightfully there two types of supporters and posters on this forum. Ones who just want to stay positive which is fine. Or those who want to see improvement not regression. Both types is absolutely fine, neither however should be shut down for the opinion they hold. |  |
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| (No subject) on 21:57 - Apr 18 with 1538 views | AlanG296 |
| (No subject) on 21:37 - Apr 18 by Funge |
Fcking hell, this isn't difficult.
We are averaging 2 points a game under McK. We play 46 games a season, which would give us 92 points. Even in this nuts league this year, where everyone from 1st through to 10th seems to hardly drop points, that gets us up.
We are bossing games, and picking up points consistently, for the first time since we have been relegated. McK is doing what he is paid to do.
To reiterate, unless you expected him to win every single game since joining (which is mental), then it's difficult to levy too much criticism at McK over and above the usual standard 'game to game' stuff.
Clearly not irrelevant to be dominant when we're picking up points, is it? |
McKenna's clearly got more points per game than Cook, but no need to exaggerate. 36pts from 20 is 1.8 per game. | | | |
| (No subject) on 21:59 - Apr 18 with 1512 views | Funge |
| (No subject) on 21:56 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
Won 3 in 10. Is that enough over a season to win promotion?
Truth is no knows what will happen next season. So rightfully there two types of supporters and posters on this forum. Ones who just want to stay positive which is fine. Or those who want to see improvement not regression. Both types is absolutely fine, neither however should be shut down for the opinion they hold. |
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| Can we now all agree on 21:59 - Apr 18 with 1474 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Can we now all agree on 21:51 - Apr 18 by davblue |
The basis of McKenna’s team is much better. We are controlling games, generally, teams aren’t creating much against us and we look a much, much better coached team.
Going forward there’s lots to work on but we are a better team under McKenna than Cook’s team. |
Agree the football is better than it was under cook. I do back to a few weeks tho when I said we look like a Lambert side. Plenty of of the ball without any danger to the opposition. We now need to get the players in during the summer to make us a threat. And that will only happen with a better final third. | |
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| (No subject) on 22:01 - Apr 18 with 1504 views | Bluedandy |
| (No subject) on 21:37 - Apr 18 by Funge |
Fcking hell, this isn't difficult.
We are averaging 2 points a game under McK. We play 46 games a season, which would give us 92 points. Even in this nuts league this year, where everyone from 1st through to 10th seems to hardly drop points, that gets us up.
We are bossing games, and picking up points consistently, for the first time since we have been relegated. McK is doing what he is paid to do.
To reiterate, unless you expected him to win every single game since joining (which is mental), then it's difficult to levy too much criticism at McK over and above the usual standard 'game to game' stuff.
Clearly not irrelevant to be dominant when we're picking up points, is it? |
We're not averaging 2 points per game which is why we haven't accumulated 40 points since Wycombe at home.
Our form has dropped dramatically... 1 ppg in last 6 games and 1.4 over the last 10 games is not good enough.
In fact over the last 10 games only Wimbledon and Burton have scored less, Crewe have scored more goals than us in the same period and they're going down.
And of all teams above us McKenna in his time has only beaten Wycombe and Plymouth...
Everyone wants McKenna to succeed but hiring a 35 year old with zero managerial experience who, just like his assistant, never played a single game of first team professional football remains a huge risk.
Let's see what the summer brings but please let's stop pretending that the case is closed on whether McKenna is the man to get us promoted. | | | |
| (No subject) on 22:01 - Apr 18 with 1497 views | Funge |
| (No subject) on 21:57 - Apr 18 by AlanG296 |
McKenna's clearly got more points per game than Cook, but no need to exaggerate. 36pts from 20 is 1.8 per game. |
Excellent point. | | | |
| (No subject) on 22:03 - Apr 18 with 1487 views | footers |
| (No subject) on 21:56 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
Won 3 in 10. Is that enough over a season to win promotion?
Truth is no knows what will happen next season. So rightfully there two types of supporters and posters on this forum. Ones who just want to stay positive which is fine. Or those who want to see improvement not regression. Both types is absolutely fine, neither however should be shut down for the opinion they hold. |
Others can want to see improvement while recognising what a good job McKenna's done.
It's night and day from you having your tongue up Cook's arse for 18 months defending the indefensible. |  |
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| (No subject) on 22:06 - Apr 18 with 1477 views | itfcjoe |
| (No subject) on 22:01 - Apr 18 by Funge |
Excellent point. |
No surprise to see those who felt Cook was the messiah still do and now have to try and denigrate McKenna |  |
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| Can we now all agree on 22:08 - Apr 18 with 1461 views | gtsb1966 |
| Can we now all agree on 21:59 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
Agree the football is better than it was under cook. I do back to a few weeks tho when I said we look like a Lambert side. Plenty of of the ball without any danger to the opposition. We now need to get the players in during the summer to make us a threat. And that will only happen with a better final third. |
Well let him get the players in, his players, and then moan if it doesn't work. You spout so much cr@p I think you forget what you've said sometimes. |  | | |
| (No subject) on 22:09 - Apr 18 with 1425 views | FrimleyBlue |
| (No subject) on 22:03 - Apr 18 by footers |
Others can want to see improvement while recognising what a good job McKenna's done.
It's night and day from you having your tongue up Cook's arse for 18 months defending the indefensible. |
I've yet to see anyone say there hasn't been any improvements within the squad.
However there's a long way to go which is fine for people to point out is it not. And your final point is the bit that makes me laugh and what I've been pointing out. You hound those who backed PC because they believed in his past success to feel it was only time he needed to bring it to town. However you now blindly follow KM in the exact same way even tho he has 0 experience in managing, we've scored 12 goals less than we did under PC and we are 12 points out of play offs compared to 9 when PC was sacked.
KM has us playing some lovely football. Some of the best for many seasons, however it's falling into Lambert territory of having the ball but doing nothing with it. The stats prove this.
Again before you get upset. That's not booooo KM. That's just seeing it for how it is and hoping he makes the changes needed to be better than a paul Lambert ipswich side. | |
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| Can we now all agree on 22:10 - Apr 18 with 1415 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Can we now all agree on 22:08 - Apr 18 by gtsb1966 |
Well let him get the players in, his players, and then moan if it doesn't work. You spout so much cr@p I think you forget what you've said sometimes. |
Lol. Again if you don't want discussions about the current situation. Maybe come back yourself when we get to next season. | |
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| (No subject) on 22:11 - Apr 18 with 1437 views | Funge |
| (No subject) on 22:06 - Apr 18 by itfcjoe |
No surprise to see those who felt Cook was the messiah still do and now have to try and denigrate McKenna |
Honestly don't get it, man.
Might write a massive rant about sh1t modern football, and send an open letter to the FA, or something. | | | |
| (No subject) on 22:12 - Apr 18 with 1404 views | FrimleyBlue |
| (No subject) on 22:06 - Apr 18 by itfcjoe |
No surprise to see those who felt Cook was the messiah still do and now have to try and denigrate McKenna |
Joe still banging this drum. I've yet to see anyone wish for PC to actually still be here. | |
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| (No subject) on 22:14 - Apr 18 with 1423 views | Funge |
| (No subject) on 22:12 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
Joe still banging this drum. I've yet to see anyone wish for PC to actually still be here. |
Have you even read the OP, poindexter? | | | |
| Can we now all agree on 22:16 - Apr 18 with 1411 views | Ryorry |
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| (No subject) on 22:17 - Apr 18 with 1390 views | FrimleyBlue |
| (No subject) on 22:14 - Apr 18 by Funge |
Have you even read the OP, poindexter? |
Yep. Sorry thought he meant within the thread, I.e the ones you were responding to. Not the OP. That's quite a take. | |
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| Can we now all agree on 22:18 - Apr 18 with 1404 views | gtsb1966 |
| Can we now all agree on 22:10 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
Lol. Again if you don't want discussions about the current situation. Maybe come back yourself when we get to next season. |
And that's what I will do when I see a KM team, his team. What's the point moaning now. What the hell are you going to be like if we lose tomorrow. You never liked KM from day one. You made that clear. If we get to October and it's the same old same old then yes I might start thinking he isn't the man but give him a chance with his own team FFS. | | | |
| (No subject) on 22:23 - Apr 18 with 1386 views | pointofblue |
| (No subject) on 22:06 - Apr 18 by itfcjoe |
No surprise to see those who felt Cook was the messiah still do and now have to try and denigrate McKenna |
I'm just nervous that we've seen it all before - so many said "give Cook time, let him bring in his own players" this time last season and we saw how that panned out.
I know, performance wise we're looking much better than the back end under Cook but then the squad, quality wise, is better too. We've also seen a step up on PPG compared to Cook, whereas I think Cook took us backwards from Lambert. Injuries to Edmundson, Evans and Jackson have also clearly affected us and I think we'd have more points on board had they stayed fit.
I said before, I think I've just been bitten so many times by football and this club inparticular that any sign of issues makes me concerned. I can't blame others for feeling the same way. | |
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