| Can we now all agree 18:18 - Apr 18 with 10818 views | pennblue |
That sacking Paul cook has NOT worked out and in future we should give our managers a minimum of 2 transfer windows unless we are clearly bottom three
I am quite sure he would have got us top six as his style of play, when executed consistently would result in top two form |  |
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| Can we now all agree on 22:27 - Apr 18 with 2034 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Can we now all agree on 22:18 - Apr 18 by gtsb1966 |
And that's what I will do when I see a KM team, his team. What's the point moaning now. What the hell are you going to be like if we lose tomorrow. You never liked KM from day one. You made that clear. If we get to October and it's the same old same old then yes I might start thinking he isn't the man but give him a chance with his own team FFS. |
Lol. I quite like what KM has tried to do tbh I've made that clear over the weeks. But we'll done for ignoring that to erm get an uppy?
It's a discussion forum, what's the point on your side just seeing and talking about the positives only?, it doesn't mean next season is going to be how you think either.
Truth is. We don't score goals. We aren't winning. We aren't seeing a changing shape to counter other sides when needed. Hopefully that will happen with better players. We will see. |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 22:29 - Apr 18 with 2058 views | 66notout |
| (No subject) on 21:59 - Apr 18 by Funge |
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| Can we now all agree on 22:32 - Apr 18 with 2050 views | gtsb1966 |
| Can we now all agree on 22:27 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
Lol. I quite like what KM has tried to do tbh I've made that clear over the weeks. But we'll done for ignoring that to erm get an uppy?
It's a discussion forum, what's the point on your side just seeing and talking about the positives only?, it doesn't mean next season is going to be how you think either.
Truth is. We don't score goals. We aren't winning. We aren't seeing a changing shape to counter other sides when needed. Hopefully that will happen with better players. We will see. |
You write " I quite like what KM has tried to do" and then you write the third paragraph. You don't make sense at all. See you in August. |  | | |
| Can we now all agree on 22:39 - Apr 18 with 1997 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Can we now all agree on 22:32 - Apr 18 by gtsb1966 |
You write " I quite like what KM has tried to do" and then you write the third paragraph. You don't make sense at all. See you in August. |
Well it does to those who are open to positives AND negatives | |
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| Can we now all agree on 22:45 - Apr 18 with 1997 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Cook wasn't sacked soon enough. |  |
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| Can we now all agree on 22:47 - Apr 18 with 2004 views | footers |
| Can we now all agree on 22:27 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
Lol. I quite like what KM has tried to do tbh I've made that clear over the weeks. But we'll done for ignoring that to erm get an uppy?
It's a discussion forum, what's the point on your side just seeing and talking about the positives only?, it doesn't mean next season is going to be how you think either.
Truth is. We don't score goals. We aren't winning. We aren't seeing a changing shape to counter other sides when needed. Hopefully that will happen with better players. We will see. |
You've ruined this forum.
It's literally you talking non-stop sh1t over ever thread and it's unbearable.
Can't you take it to FB or Twitter or get some EFL club to hire you for your obvious expertise instead of stinking this place up?
A shame Phil had sympathy for your sob story after the ban really. |  |
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| Can we now all agree on 22:52 - Apr 18 with 1952 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Can we now all agree on 22:47 - Apr 18 by footers |
You've ruined this forum.
It's literally you talking non-stop sh1t over ever thread and it's unbearable.
Can't you take it to FB or Twitter or get some EFL club to hire you for your obvious expertise instead of stinking this place up?
A shame Phil had sympathy for your sob story after the ban really. |
Lol. Ruined the forum. Calling you out as a hypocrite and you don't like it. Funny that. You post alot but say little, you keep pointing out what PC failures were. Fair play. You say you like KM. Fair play. But what is your actual opinion on the results of the side, the goal scoring figures, what are the positives what are the negatives. Go on give an online forum an actual contribution
What's better tho footers. Talking football or your child abuse jokes?
Oh and p.s I was never banned :)
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| Can we now all agree on 23:13 - Apr 18 with 1957 views | jeera |
| Can we now all agree on 22:52 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
Lol. Ruined the forum. Calling you out as a hypocrite and you don't like it. Funny that. You post alot but say little, you keep pointing out what PC failures were. Fair play. You say you like KM. Fair play. But what is your actual opinion on the results of the side, the goal scoring figures, what are the positives what are the negatives. Go on give an online forum an actual contribution
What's better tho footers. Talking football or your child abuse jokes?
Oh and p.s I was never banned :)
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Almost 40 posters have you on ignore and you blame everyone else.
He's right. You post so much that even on ignore it breaks up threads.
" You post a lot but say little". This has to be the least aware post anyone has ever made on this forum since it came into existence. |  |
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| Can we now all agree on 23:17 - Apr 18 with 1949 views | Churchman |
| Can we now all agree on 18:41 - Apr 18 by pennblue |
I am not saying the first half of the season was better, but what McKenna now knows about this squad of players, Paul Cook already knew in December. |
Boooooo! McKenna out!,,,, booooooooooooo!! He’s ruined the best squad in the league. Booooooo. He’s lost two of the last three games. Waaaa, boooooo! Cook wouldn’t have done that. He just needed time and another cup of coffee. No free hits! Why didn’t McKenna sort out the forwards before he got the job last summer? Booooo!!
And so it goes on. The restless lynch mob are assembling. The suspects sharpening the knives for McKenna and looking forward to the excitement of a new manager. Warnock, Mick, I can feel the Christmas present opening style excitement building with every poor result. We are still at the ‘I don’t want McKenna out, but’ phase, but a loss tomorrow should fire them up to full ‘must go’ mode.
Funny thing is I didn’t hear a whimper a few short weeks ago when Plymouth were played off the pitch. Not a peep. But the suspects are all emerging now.
There are plenty of interesting comments and people on here. I don’t necessarily agree with them all of the time (and visa versa), but I very much respect them and am always interested in what they have to say.
There are a minority that you can predict what they are going to say before the say it and not in a good way. No objectivity, no balance, no patience, just depressing blame and bizarre judgements. One in particular has never had a positive thing to say about anything ever and is quite simply pathetic - and should be banned, but that’s for the administrators to decide, not me, and they do a fantastic job.
Time for me to take a break for a while. [Post edited 18 Apr 2022 23:33]
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| Can we now all agree on 23:24 - Apr 18 with 1905 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Can we now all agree on 23:13 - Apr 18 by jeera |
Almost 40 posters have you on ignore and you blame everyone else.
He's right. You post so much that even on ignore it breaks up threads.
" You post a lot but say little". This has to be the least aware post anyone has ever made on this forum since it came into existence. |
Funny you say "you post so much that even on ignore it breaks up threads".. ever noticed that 70% of the time the posts are responses to people like footers or Donnie. Even this reply is another post not needed, but made as its a response to yet another poster who wants to take the thread away from the actual discussion at hand.
Oh and regarding your last point.
No I'm aware. I say alot. Alot of sht to some but that's the joy of football opinions, I'm not in charge at pr so it doesn't matter if I'm right or wrong. [Post edited 18 Apr 2022 23:28]
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| Can we now all agree on 23:33 - Apr 18 with 1916 views | WicklowBlue |
| Can we now all agree on 23:24 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
Funny you say "you post so much that even on ignore it breaks up threads".. ever noticed that 70% of the time the posts are responses to people like footers or Donnie. Even this reply is another post not needed, but made as its a response to yet another poster who wants to take the thread away from the actual discussion at hand.
Oh and regarding your last point.
No I'm aware. I say alot. Alot of sht to some but that's the joy of football opinions, I'm not in charge at pr so it doesn't matter if I'm right or wrong. [Post edited 18 Apr 2022 23:28]
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Do you actually do anything other than try to monopolise the conversation on here???
Seriously...., every thread I catch up on seems to have at least one contribution from yourself. That ain't healthy.... |  | | |
| Can we now all agree on 23:40 - Apr 18 with 1871 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Can we now all agree on 23:33 - Apr 18 by WicklowBlue |
Do you actually do anything other than try to monopolise the conversation on here???
Seriously...., every thread I catch up on seems to have at least one contribution from yourself. That ain't healthy.... |
Ah another who ignored the actual posters who turned the thread into something else. And your response oh yes gets another response which clogs up the threads. So well done.
I discuss football yes and respond to people's threads yes.
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| Can we now all agree on 23:41 - Apr 18 with 1890 views | Ryorry |
| Can we now all agree on 23:17 - Apr 18 by Churchman |
Boooooo! McKenna out!,,,, booooooooooooo!! He’s ruined the best squad in the league. Booooooo. He’s lost two of the last three games. Waaaa, boooooo! Cook wouldn’t have done that. He just needed time and another cup of coffee. No free hits! Why didn’t McKenna sort out the forwards before he got the job last summer? Booooo!!
And so it goes on. The restless lynch mob are assembling. The suspects sharpening the knives for McKenna and looking forward to the excitement of a new manager. Warnock, Mick, I can feel the Christmas present opening style excitement building with every poor result. We are still at the ‘I don’t want McKenna out, but’ phase, but a loss tomorrow should fire them up to full ‘must go’ mode.
Funny thing is I didn’t hear a whimper a few short weeks ago when Plymouth were played off the pitch. Not a peep. But the suspects are all emerging now.
There are plenty of interesting comments and people on here. I don’t necessarily agree with them all of the time (and visa versa), but I very much respect them and am always interested in what they have to say.
There are a minority that you can predict what they are going to say before the say it and not in a good way. No objectivity, no balance, no patience, just depressing blame and bizarre judgements. One in particular has never had a positive thing to say about anything ever and is quite simply pathetic - and should be banned, but that’s for the administrators to decide, not me, and they do a fantastic job.
Time for me to take a break for a while. [Post edited 18 Apr 2022 23:33]
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In one way that’s the worst of threads like this, they act as aversion therapy to good posters like yourself. Agree with most of what you said there, enjoy your break, come back soon :) [Post edited 18 Apr 2022 23:57]
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| Can we now all agree on 00:20 - Apr 19 with 1844 views | reusersfreekicks |
Mck is streets ahead of Cook as a manager. So much more professional in approach, interviews and analysis. Cook contradicted himself so many times, appointed coaches with so little experience and then got the master of forward thinking football Peter Reid to help out. Football has moved on and Wigan are showing what we missed out on.
Too many people couldn't see the mess he made of things and now he is taking a team downwards in the National League.
I think Mck is a very good appointment and has been unfortunate with results, injuries and Bonne giving up scoring |  | | |
| Can we now all agree on 00:58 - Apr 19 with 1805 views | berkstractorboy |
Wholeheartedly disagree with your clueless twaddle.
Did you see the performances at the end of the Cook tenure? At Barrow that was beyond embarrassing. | | | |
| Can we now all agree on 07:29 - Apr 19 with 1695 views | dissboy2 |
This is the stupidest post I've ever read on the twtd forum | | | |
| Can we now all agree on 08:11 - Apr 19 with 1657 views | BiGDonnie |
What makes you think Cookes style would come up trumps? What was it about conceding an average of two goals a game that gave you that feeling?
Sacking PC worked out brilliantly IMO, they only way it would have been better was if we binned the fat scouser off a month earlier.
Unlucky with Ronaldo's last minute winner weren't ya, scummer? |  |
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| (No subject) on 08:12 - Apr 19 with 1648 views | BiGDonnie |
| (No subject) on 21:50 - Apr 18 by Funge |
So you do expect him to win every game then. We got there in the end.
Cool, you're mad, peace. |
I've given in and had to put a few on ignore.
Kids are back to School today in most cases so it should become more bearable on here. | |
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| Can we now all agree on 08:17 - Apr 19 with 1638 views | itfcjoe |
| Can we now all agree on 22:47 - Apr 18 by footers |
You've ruined this forum.
It's literally you talking non-stop sh1t over ever thread and it's unbearable.
Can't you take it to FB or Twitter or get some EFL club to hire you for your obvious expertise instead of stinking this place up?
A shame Phil had sympathy for your sob story after the ban really. |
I had him on ignore for months but had taken him off as at times the board was just unreadable as is just omnipresent - but have had to put him back on and it's now back to barely useable on the football side of posts again.
I'll wave my imaginary red card here to the board admin |  |
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| (No subject) on 08:39 - Apr 19 with 1598 views | wkj |
| (No subject) on 22:23 - Apr 18 by pointofblue |
I'm just nervous that we've seen it all before - so many said "give Cook time, let him bring in his own players" this time last season and we saw how that panned out.
I know, performance wise we're looking much better than the back end under Cook but then the squad, quality wise, is better too. We've also seen a step up on PPG compared to Cook, whereas I think Cook took us backwards from Lambert. Injuries to Edmundson, Evans and Jackson have also clearly affected us and I think we'd have more points on board had they stayed fit.
I said before, I think I've just been bitten so many times by football and this club inparticular that any sign of issues makes me concerned. I can't blame others for feeling the same way. |
This whole post is over complicated enough, as I replied to your posts several times this season - Cook needed time, but on the condition, he was showing improvement over time. He failed to do this, so giving him time was clearly at its end.
McKenna has shown statistical improvement as well as an improved sense of game management. The end of the season was a bit tough and I base that on missing two connections in the team. Evans and Morsy in the middle (Some don't rate Evans, but Morsy plays so much better alongside him)
Additionally, the connection between Edmundson and the back. Yes, defensively we've done okay with Edmundson injured but we've not seen as much of the ball playing defender movement high up the pitch since he was out of the squad.
When you are a manager who hasn't had much time to forge those connections to allow those passages of play, then your backup plan is inevitably limited. I hope KM has a great transfer window and Derby doesn't gorge on the transfer market as a fully firing KMK team will be one of the best things we've seen as town fans in a long long time. |  |
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| (No subject) on 08:47 - Apr 19 with 1576 views | pointofblue |
| (No subject) on 08:39 - Apr 19 by wkj |
This whole post is over complicated enough, as I replied to your posts several times this season - Cook needed time, but on the condition, he was showing improvement over time. He failed to do this, so giving him time was clearly at its end.
McKenna has shown statistical improvement as well as an improved sense of game management. The end of the season was a bit tough and I base that on missing two connections in the team. Evans and Morsy in the middle (Some don't rate Evans, but Morsy plays so much better alongside him)
Additionally, the connection between Edmundson and the back. Yes, defensively we've done okay with Edmundson injured but we've not seen as much of the ball playing defender movement high up the pitch since he was out of the squad.
When you are a manager who hasn't had much time to forge those connections to allow those passages of play, then your backup plan is inevitably limited. I hope KM has a great transfer window and Derby doesn't gorge on the transfer market as a fully firing KMK team will be one of the best things we've seen as town fans in a long long time. |
You are right about the missing connections due to injury and I think I even raised them in my post, though Edmundson, Evans and Jackson were all absent in what was probably our best all round performance of the season, at home anyway, against Plymouth.
Also, I don’t think missing those players would have an impact on the quality or lack of in terms of set pieces and the lack of improvement there. Chance creation I understand, thinking about it - no Edmundson to help drive the ball forward on the left, directing even more pressure to the right side, no Evans to help win and recycle the ball, a lack of pace up top. But the set piece puzzle (where we seem susceptible defensively as well as offensively) is another thing altogether. | |
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| Can we now all agree on 09:07 - Apr 19 with 1542 views | BiGDonnie |
| Can we now all agree on 22:52 - Apr 18 by FrimleyBlue |
Lol. Ruined the forum. Calling you out as a hypocrite and you don't like it. Funny that. You post alot but say little, you keep pointing out what PC failures were. Fair play. You say you like KM. Fair play. But what is your actual opinion on the results of the side, the goal scoring figures, what are the positives what are the negatives. Go on give an online forum an actual contribution
What's better tho footers. Talking football or your child abuse jokes?
Oh and p.s I was never banned :)
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You really have ruined this forum.
I'm still 100% certain you're a budgie troll, no one can be as thick at your age. | |
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| Can we now all agree on 09:29 - Apr 19 with 1498 views | blueasfook |
Ha ha! You're funny. |  |
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| Can we now all agree on 09:33 - Apr 19 with 1506 views | broncos77 |
| Can we now all agree on 19:15 - Apr 18 by itfcjoe |
Another defeat today, what a disastrous appointment he’s been for them |
Cook was a disaster; and a disgrace - he just enjoyed being 'demolition man' and trying to ruin some good plyers' careers - fortunately most of them have found a good place elsewhere
After his usual start of 'Aren't I great' antics at Chesterfield he's now saying he doesn't trust his players as they slip down the table; ready for more demolition if they dont have the sense to get rid of him
KM still learning, and we're getting to see more evidence of the squad weaknesses, but a proper manager and good bloke who with time will do well for us and himself Whether he gets that time from Gamechanger if no promotion next season we'll see, but a massive upgrade on Cook | | | |
| Can we now all agree on 09:46 - Apr 19 with 1491 views | BlueBadger |
| Can we now all agree on 19:08 - Apr 18 by footers |
Not at all, it's just surprising how many of our fanbase liked the taste of paint as a child. |
A venn diagram of people who were appalled by people accepting mediocrity under Mick but happy to accept mediocrity(or worse) under Hurst, Lambert and Cook is basically a circle. [Post edited 19 Apr 2022 10:18]
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