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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" 11:20 - May 9 with 6721 viewsKeno

although it should really be after Nick Clegg who is the second best Prime Ministers we never had.

Just started reading this and I just wondered who y'all think would have made a good PM but never got the chance

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:02 - May 9 with 877 viewsDarth_Koont

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 12:59 - May 9 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Corbyn’s bigotry/enablement is fine because he’s “on the right team”. In the same way people gloss over Harry10’s bigotry against the religious, the overweight and the disabled - because he sticks it to Boris.


James – you’re talking nonsense. There is no evidence for what you are saying about Corbyn, just desperate, disingenuous accusations.

It’s Starmer/Savile stuff. And the people that do that are w@nkers too.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:12 - May 9 with 849 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:02 - May 9 by Darth_Koont

James – you’re talking nonsense. There is no evidence for what you are saying about Corbyn, just desperate, disingenuous accusations.

It’s Starmer/Savile stuff. And the people that do that are w@nkers too.


I’ve seen plenty of it - less overt than the Boris fans- all the Paz-style nudge, wink stuff - blaming everything on the “Israel lobby”. All the tired tropes. He brought all the cranks crawling out of the woodwork and did nothing to stamp it out as Starmer has now.

It’s an argument that’s been done a million times so I’ll leave it there.
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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:12 - May 9 with 850 viewsNthQldITFC

Corbyn might not have been the best Prime Minister, but a Corbyn victory would have reset the system and shown that the electorate can decide that self-interest isn't everything.

Just maybe it would be possible to step away from the last forty years of short-termist, irresponsible, greed-driven 'progress' and at least try to put the country on a fair and sustainable footing, with public services run for the public, and not for the profits of selfish investors.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:17 - May 9 with 840 viewsBasingstokeBlue

Brian Clough.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:19 - May 9 with 833 viewsDarth_Koont

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:12 - May 9 by SuperKieranMcKenna

I’ve seen plenty of it - less overt than the Boris fans- all the Paz-style nudge, wink stuff - blaming everything on the “Israel lobby”. All the tired tropes. He brought all the cranks crawling out of the woodwork and did nothing to stamp it out as Starmer has now.

It’s an argument that’s been done a million times so I’ll leave it there.


It’s not just the Israel lobby (that even Glassers admits is real and active). But also right wingers inside and outside the Labour Party. And a lazy centre and rabid right media.

All quite blatant and overt when put next to the molehill of evidence.

One of the worst political and democratic scandals you’ll ever see. On a par (but much more personal and nasty) with the Brexit lies and monstering of the EU that preceded the referendum.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:21 - May 9 with 825 viewsKeno

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 12:50 - May 9 by chicoazul

Nick Clegg was a terrible politician and is an all round bad person now working for demons who perfectly and personally summarises absolutely everything wrong with this country in a neat small badly coiffed package. Give me absolutely anyone else any day.


In saving western civilisation in the depths of the financial crisis Nick Clegg made a very basic and unforgivable error

His price for doing that should have been PR, not a fudgy referendum but a form of PR.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:22 - May 9 with 818 viewschicoazul

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:21 - May 9 by Keno

In saving western civilisation in the depths of the financial crisis Nick Clegg made a very basic and unforgivable error

His price for doing that should have been PR, not a fudgy referendum but a form of PR.


What?

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:22 - May 9 with 812 viewsBlueBadger

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:21 - May 9 by Keno

In saving western civilisation in the depths of the financial crisis Nick Clegg made a very basic and unforgivable error

His price for doing that should have been PR, not a fudgy referendum but a form of PR.


Instead, he ended up DOING PR for the third worst prime minister of the 2010s.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:23 - May 9 with 815 viewsKeno

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:12 - May 9 by NthQldITFC

Corbyn might not have been the best Prime Minister, but a Corbyn victory would have reset the system and shown that the electorate can decide that self-interest isn't everything.

Just maybe it would be possible to step away from the last forty years of short-termist, irresponsible, greed-driven 'progress' and at least try to put the country on a fair and sustainable footing, with public services run for the public, and not for the profits of selfish investors.


The events after a Corbyn win could have been predicted in that drama 'A very British coup'

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:25 - May 9 with 802 viewsKeno

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:22 - May 9 by chicoazul

What?


Clegg made the sacrifice of his career and his party to give the UK stability and start to lead the west out of the financial melt down it was facing

I dont think that can be disputed

He deserves a lot of credit for that

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:25 - May 9 with 800 viewsRyorry

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:21 - May 9 by Keno

In saving western civilisation in the depths of the financial crisis Nick Clegg made a very basic and unforgivable error

His price for doing that should have been PR, not a fudgy referendum but a form of PR.


Unless I've got the years wrong, it was Alistair Darling who saved "western civilisation in the depths of the financial crisis"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bmbhzb

Fascinating docu which isn't on iPlayer any more, but might be on Youtube.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:27 - May 9 with 788 viewschicoazul

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:25 - May 9 by Keno

Clegg made the sacrifice of his career and his party to give the UK stability and start to lead the west out of the financial melt down it was facing

I dont think that can be disputed

He deserves a lot of credit for that


Lol lol lol ok.
He became Dep PM in summer 2010 and implemented austerity.

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Paddy Pantsdown (n/t) on 13:28 - May 9 with 784 viewsBloots

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 12:29 - May 9 by tractordownsouth

He never had a chance because he was in a minor party but I think Paddy Ashdown would have made a good PM.



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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:32 - May 9 with 770 viewsKeno

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:25 - May 9 by Ryorry

Unless I've got the years wrong, it was Alistair Darling who saved "western civilisation in the depths of the financial crisis"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bmbhzb

Fascinating docu which isn't on iPlayer any more, but might be on Youtube.


maybe be, but it was Clegg who made it all happen

I know a funny story about Brown and Darling before Labour came to power visiting an Edinburrh pension company to learn about pensions which prompted a comment from the CEO 'if those two ever get any where near power god help us'

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:33 - May 9 with 761 viewschicoazul

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:32 - May 9 by Keno

maybe be, but it was Clegg who made it all happen

I know a funny story about Brown and Darling before Labour came to power visiting an Edinburrh pension company to learn about pensions which prompted a comment from the CEO 'if those two ever get any where near power god help us'


You are *extremely* confused.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:34 - May 9 with 762 viewsKeno

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:27 - May 9 by chicoazul

Lol lol lol ok.
He became Dep PM in summer 2010 and implemented austerity.


but did get the nil rate tax band hiked!!

At the time Austerity was mistakes and you wonder how the world look now if measure similar to those in the pandemic had been brought in

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:35 - May 9 with 760 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:17 - May 9 by BasingstokeBlue

Brian Clough.


Maybe not the best but definitely in the top one.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:37 - May 9 with 754 viewsKeno

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:33 - May 9 by chicoazul

You are *extremely* confused.


Please note the posts posted within this thread maybe the genuine beliefs of the poster or maybe being posted for comedic effort to engender some amusement on a Monday afternoon as the poster is somewhat bored and in need of some, however puerile, entertainment.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:40 - May 9 with 742 viewsRyorry

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:32 - May 9 by Keno

maybe be, but it was Clegg who made it all happen

I know a funny story about Brown and Darling before Labour came to power visiting an Edinburrh pension company to learn about pensions which prompted a comment from the CEO 'if those two ever get any where near power god help us'


How did Clegg make it all happen? 2 years before he got anywhere near power.

I wonder what that CEO now thinks about Brown & Darling compared with Johnson & Sunak!

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:42 - May 9 with 733 viewsKeno

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:40 - May 9 by Ryorry

How did Clegg make it all happen? 2 years before he got anywhere near power.

I wonder what that CEO now thinks about Brown & Darling compared with Johnson & Sunak!


I'm not actually sure he ever did get anywhere near power, had he done he should have got PR!!

That CEO probably does think much now, unfortunately

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:48 - May 9 with 719 viewsWhos_blue

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 11:24 - May 9 by SaleAway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smith_(Labour_Party_leader)


Just this.

Left of centre enough for the lefties. Centrist enough for the centrists.

It was a sad day for Labour (and arguably our country) when he died.

Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:57 - May 9 with 705 viewsClapham_Junction

Perhaps Charles Kennedy is worth a mention.

I wonder if he'd been Lib Dem leader in 2010 whether people might have gone for the Lib Dems rather than the Tories — people wanted change but perhaps a slightly leftwards alternative of Labour (which is where Kennedy had positioned the Lib Dems when he was leader) might have been more appealing than the Tories.

Even if he'd only added a few more seats (at the expense of the Conservatives), he would have gone for a Labour—Lib Dem coalition and all the nonsense of the last ten years might not have happened (Labour might have actually acquiesced to a decent electoral system as opposed to the AV referendum farce).
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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:04 - May 9 with 687 viewsKeno

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:57 - May 9 by Clapham_Junction

Perhaps Charles Kennedy is worth a mention.

I wonder if he'd been Lib Dem leader in 2010 whether people might have gone for the Lib Dems rather than the Tories — people wanted change but perhaps a slightly leftwards alternative of Labour (which is where Kennedy had positioned the Lib Dems when he was leader) might have been more appealing than the Tories.

Even if he'd only added a few more seats (at the expense of the Conservatives), he would have gone for a Labour—Lib Dem coalition and all the nonsense of the last ten years might not have happened (Labour might have actually acquiesced to a decent electoral system as opposed to the AV referendum farce).


Thats actually an interesting take

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:05 - May 9 with 685 viewsRyorry

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:57 - May 9 by Clapham_Junction

Perhaps Charles Kennedy is worth a mention.

I wonder if he'd been Lib Dem leader in 2010 whether people might have gone for the Lib Dems rather than the Tories — people wanted change but perhaps a slightly leftwards alternative of Labour (which is where Kennedy had positioned the Lib Dems when he was leader) might have been more appealing than the Tories.

Even if he'd only added a few more seats (at the expense of the Conservatives), he would have gone for a Labour—Lib Dem coalition and all the nonsense of the last ten years might not have happened (Labour might have actually acquiesced to a decent electoral system as opposed to the AV referendum farce).


I don't think anyone with an alcohol problem should be running the country I'm afraid .

Though arguably the pressures of the job might well drive anyone to the bottle, if they weren't already there!

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:08 - May 9 with 673 viewsPerublue

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