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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" 11:20 - May 9 with 6720 viewsKeno

although it should really be after Nick Clegg who is the second best Prime Ministers we never had.

Just started reading this and I just wondered who y'all think would have made a good PM but never got the chance

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:09 - May 9 with 692 viewsblueasfook

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:05 - May 9 by Ryorry

I don't think anyone with an alcohol problem should be running the country I'm afraid .

Though arguably the pressures of the job might well drive anyone to the bottle, if they weren't already there!


Something is wrong - I find myself agreeing with you far too often these days!

No way would I have voted for Charles Kennedy. He was ginger as well.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:11 - May 9 with 698 viewsRyorry

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:08 - May 9 by Perublue

Portillo


He only became human after being ousted as an MP though.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:12 - May 9 with 695 viewsRyorry

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:09 - May 9 by blueasfook

Something is wrong - I find myself agreeing with you far too often these days!

No way would I have voted for Charles Kennedy. He was ginger as well.


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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:14 - May 9 with 680 viewsfooters

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:05 - May 9 by Ryorry

I don't think anyone with an alcohol problem should be running the country I'm afraid .

Though arguably the pressures of the job might well drive anyone to the bottle, if they weren't already there!


Churchill didn't do a bad job of it. Well, during the war anyway...

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:19 - May 9 with 663 viewsBloomBlue

Sir Keir Starmer
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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:21 - May 9 with 662 viewsRyorry

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:14 - May 9 by footers

Churchill didn't do a bad job of it. Well, during the war anyway...


As you say, war situation made it a bit different - we needed him, so overlooked his flaws & mistakes to look at the bigger picture.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:22 - May 9 with 649 viewsblueasfook

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:21 - May 9 by Ryorry

As you say, war situation made it a bit different - we needed him, so overlooked his flaws & mistakes to look at the bigger picture.


Liking a drink probably wasnt such big red flag in those days either.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:23 - May 9 with 658 viewsPerublue

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:11 - May 9 by Ryorry

He only became human after being ousted as an MP though.


I thought he'd be a good one even before he became human and before I became a tory.

Corbyn,although I really liked him and his moral compass , i'm glad right now we have a nuclear deterrent ... which we wouldn't have had and although the economy is screwed this is a global issue...Corbyn and his lot would have made a bad situation a lot worse.
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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:26 - May 9 with 649 viewsPerublue

John Smith would have won and no doubt the World...well..UK would have been different,but of course we'll never know what future it could have been without Blair....and all that followed having him and after.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:28 - May 9 with 648 viewsGlasgowBlue

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 11:24 - May 9 by STYG

Corbyn. I won't be convinced otherwise.

For me the Tories hated him as well as the bad apples in Labour, who were partly on the gravy train that Corbyn would have stopped.

Albeit I didn't follow the controversies over anti-Semitism that closely to know whether there was any merit in them or whether the media were doing exactly what they are doing with Starmer now and curry-gate.

What I do know is that 40 years ago as a nobody, Corbyn was still speaking out for the under-privileged and championing a fairer society.

I don't think he'd have had all the answers, but I think he genuinely would have tried his best to get back to a minimum, basic standard of living and wellbeing for all, that should, in a country as well off as ours, be the bare minimum.

He'd have also properly taxed all these thieving, robbing, Tory corporations.


"I didn't follow the controversies over anti-Semitism that closely to know whether there was any merit in them"

Imagine coming to the conclusion that somebody would have made the best Prime Minister we never had but not being interested enough to find out about his enabling of antisemitism in the Labour party which resulted in the Labour Party being found guilty by the EHRC of "unlawful acts of discrimination and harassment against Jewish members" and which resulted in the "best Prime Minister we never had" having the Labour whip removed from him by the current leadership.

Edit. And if you think the media did a hatchet job on him then may I point you to this unbiased organisation who have made several interesting reports on the subject.

https://hopenothate.org.uk/labour-the-ehrc/
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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:31 - May 9 with 641 viewsGlasgowBlue

Michael Foot. We'd now be reaping the rewards of 39 years of Brexit had he won the 1983 General Election.
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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:33 - May 9 with 632 viewsPerublue

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:28 - May 9 by GlasgowBlue

"I didn't follow the controversies over anti-Semitism that closely to know whether there was any merit in them"

Imagine coming to the conclusion that somebody would have made the best Prime Minister we never had but not being interested enough to find out about his enabling of antisemitism in the Labour party which resulted in the Labour Party being found guilty by the EHRC of "unlawful acts of discrimination and harassment against Jewish members" and which resulted in the "best Prime Minister we never had" having the Labour whip removed from him by the current leadership.

Edit. And if you think the media did a hatchet job on him then may I point you to this unbiased organisation who have made several interesting reports on the subject.

https://hopenothate.org.uk/labour-the-ehrc/
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Corbyn was a case of populism not being popular according to the election results.

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Arf! (n/t) on 14:43 - May 9 with 615 viewsBloots

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:31 - May 9 by GlasgowBlue

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:49 - May 9 with 600 viewsBlueBadger

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:23 - May 9 by Perublue

I thought he'd be a good one even before he became human and before I became a tory.

Corbyn,although I really liked him and his moral compass , i'm glad right now we have a nuclear deterrent ... which we wouldn't have had and although the economy is screwed this is a global issue...Corbyn and his lot would have made a bad situation a lot worse.
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Portillo was a horrible c**t before he lost his seat. An Efficient Private Sector enthustiast, keen on the death penalty, pro Brexit loon and introduced the poll tax, to but a few things. He'd have been an awful

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:54 - May 9 with 594 viewsGlasgowBlue

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 13:19 - May 9 by Darth_Koont

It’s not just the Israel lobby (that even Glassers admits is real and active). But also right wingers inside and outside the Labour Party. And a lazy centre and rabid right media.

All quite blatant and overt when put next to the molehill of evidence.

One of the worst political and democratic scandals you’ll ever see. On a par (but much more personal and nasty) with the Brexit lies and monstering of the EU that preceded the referendum.


What I actually said was that lobbying and foreign influence is perfectly normal in around the world, and that all countries engage in it. Why should Israel be any different.

That's completely different to the Israel lobby that you often portray which operates in a sinister, covert and illicit manner with its tentacles reaching into every aspect of UK and US politics and leading a being the driving force behind a fake narrative to discredit the former leader of the Labour party.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:54 - May 9 with 591 viewsblueasfook

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:28 - May 9 by GlasgowBlue

"I didn't follow the controversies over anti-Semitism that closely to know whether there was any merit in them"

Imagine coming to the conclusion that somebody would have made the best Prime Minister we never had but not being interested enough to find out about his enabling of antisemitism in the Labour party which resulted in the Labour Party being found guilty by the EHRC of "unlawful acts of discrimination and harassment against Jewish members" and which resulted in the "best Prime Minister we never had" having the Labour whip removed from him by the current leadership.

Edit. And if you think the media did a hatchet job on him then may I point you to this unbiased organisation who have made several interesting reports on the subject.

https://hopenothate.org.uk/labour-the-ehrc/
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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 15:14 - May 9 with 570 viewsclive_baker

Arguably not even come close in that he's never been leader of a party, but Andy Burnham is someone I've always thought highly of. Think he would make a great PM and strikes a right balance to appeal to the majority IMO, not just in England but the rest of the UK which will be a critical factor in protecting the Union which is something I feel quite strongly about.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 15:35 - May 9 with 547 viewsjaykay

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 11:28 - May 9 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Jeremy Corbyn of course - alas he unfortunately had to run against the universally loved Theresa May, and astoundingly competent Boris Johnson.


theresa may who had pay the d.u.p to keep the tories in power after corbyn cut her majority . when some on here were saying she would win by 100 seats.
then boris came along and we had all the spin, he a great speaker, a bit of one of lads. he will get us great post brexit deals etc. only the loony left snow flakes were warning ,what he really like. so the great smear tactics were brought out , by the media and social media to keep him out . i can't remember many on the right on here giving that Irony on boris. but maybe that was when you were doing your daveu act for your first few months on here

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 15:36 - May 9 with 554 viewsmylittletown

At the time I'd have said John Smith, now I'd say Ken Clarke.

Apart from anything else, Corbyn would have been the most stupid and inflexible PM of my lifetime.
Portillo completely lacked a moral compass, much like the current incumbent, who would also probably be very good at presenting meaningless TV programmes.
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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 15:37 - May 9 with 549 viewsfooters

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:31 - May 9 by GlasgowBlue

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If only Maggie had his vision, eh?

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 16:08 - May 9 with 523 viewsDarth_Koont

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:28 - May 9 by GlasgowBlue

"I didn't follow the controversies over anti-Semitism that closely to know whether there was any merit in them"

Imagine coming to the conclusion that somebody would have made the best Prime Minister we never had but not being interested enough to find out about his enabling of antisemitism in the Labour party which resulted in the Labour Party being found guilty by the EHRC of "unlawful acts of discrimination and harassment against Jewish members" and which resulted in the "best Prime Minister we never had" having the Labour whip removed from him by the current leadership.

Edit. And if you think the media did a hatchet job on him then may I point you to this unbiased organisation who have made several interesting reports on the subject.

https://hopenothate.org.uk/labour-the-ehrc/
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Hope Not Hate weren’t unbiased. As you well know. And they were decidedly shonky on the matter.

“His enabling of antisemitism”!!? Jeez, you’ll even lie about the EHRC report.

As I said in another post, it’s just like the Brexiteers lying about Brexit despite the evidence – and far too many people swallowing both sets of lies without question because they wanted to believe it.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 16:11 - May 9 with 512 viewsDarth_Koont

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:54 - May 9 by blueasfook

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Indeed.

Glassers’ “evidence” and framing of the charges needs challenging every step of the way. An utter propagandist and smear merchant.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 16:15 - May 9 with 504 viewsSwansea_Blue

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:11 - May 9 by Ryorry

He only became human after being ousted as an MP though.


That seems to be the case for a lot of them. Presumably when they're being whipped and made to defend the indefensible or implement daft policies it makes idiots out of the best of them. For example, when you hear David Davis talk about his own interests he's a completely different person to the buffoon that mishandled Brexit.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 16:17 - May 9 with 502 viewsDarth_Koont

"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 14:54 - May 9 by GlasgowBlue

What I actually said was that lobbying and foreign influence is perfectly normal in around the world, and that all countries engage in it. Why should Israel be any different.

That's completely different to the Israel lobby that you often portray which operates in a sinister, covert and illicit manner with its tentacles reaching into every aspect of UK and US politics and leading a being the driving force behind a fake narrative to discredit the former leader of the Labour party.


Why are you pushing a trope? “Tentacles” FFS??

I’m talking about specific people and organisations with an overly aggressive pro-Israel stance. Like the Board of Deputies, the CAA and JLM. Not to mention LAAS, Gnasher and the rest of the online warriors.

For them (and you it seems) it was a war where anything goes, and they could lie, cheat and steal to get what they want. None of it was covert either. People just ignored it because bashing the left suited their own agenda.

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"Best Prime Ministers we never had" on 16:24 - May 9 with 491 viewsParsley

Sometimes I wonder what 'Chaos with Ed Miliband' would have looked like...
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