4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... 12:38 - Sep 1 with 7568 views | itfcjoe | ....that pesky agent has really messed him up |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:38 - Sep 1 with 4536 views | Marshalls_Mullet | Time will tell. Handled badly on both sides. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:40 - Sep 1 with 4481 views | Big_Jase | Great move for him and hope it works out. Our fans behaviour towards his, especially on social media has been pathetic. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:41 - Sep 1 with 4442 views | jayessess |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:38 - Sep 1 by Marshalls_Mullet | Time will tell. Handled badly on both sides. |
Wish I had someone handling my affairs as "badly" as Simpson's agent! [Post edited 1 Sep 2022 12:41]
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:41 - Sep 1 with 4439 views | ITFCBlues |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:38 - Sep 1 by Marshalls_Mullet | Time will tell. Handled badly on both sides. |
Nothing to do with time will tell! Longer contract at Championship club on what you'd presume on more money. Fair play to him for not mugging himself off with the low ball offer here. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:42 - Sep 1 with 4433 views | Schmoke | For somebody who speaks so well on BM, it's surprising to see you post in a deliberately provocative nature on here. What do you aim to get out of it? |  | |  |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:44 - Sep 1 with 4332 views | Jimmy86 |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:38 - Sep 1 by Marshalls_Mullet | Time will tell. Handled badly on both sides. |
Agreed, but I for 1 am glad the club didn't bend over backwards and allow themselves to be dictated to by him or his agent... he seemed to think more of himself than the club did, which is his perogative.. he has done nothing in a town shirt and then decided after 1 half decent spell in the league below.. that he deserves a first team player status contract.. maybe an up and coming first team contract, but not an established first teamer contract... Good luck to him [Post edited 1 Sep 2022 12:47]
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:45 - Sep 1 with 4314 views | jayessess |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:41 - Sep 1 by ITFCBlues | Nothing to do with time will tell! Longer contract at Championship club on what you'd presume on more money. Fair play to him for not mugging himself off with the low ball offer here. |
In terms of breaking into professional football, 4 years is amazing for him. Don't imagine our contract offer would've been worth even 50% of that in total. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:45 - Sep 1 with 4306 views | clive_baker | 9x as much dollar as he was on here too. He's made a good move for him and people shouldn't begrudge that. It is what it is, we've driven a hard bargain to be fair and not from a position of massive strength given his contract situation. A nice sell on fee if he really kicks on, but also a half decent initial fee which will look even better if he doesn't really kick on. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:50 - Sep 1 with 4150 views | jayessess |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:45 - Sep 1 by clive_baker | 9x as much dollar as he was on here too. He's made a good move for him and people shouldn't begrudge that. It is what it is, we've driven a hard bargain to be fair and not from a position of massive strength given his contract situation. A nice sell on fee if he really kicks on, but also a half decent initial fee which will look even better if he doesn't really kick on. |
Yeah, we seem to have done well with actually negotiating his exit for a decent fee. But in future we really have to get serious about making competitive contract offers to these players. When they've come through our academy, we have the advantage that they're in the building, they know the place, they like the coaches, we have time to persuade them. Getting the likes of Simpson and Gibbs to sign up should be easier and cheaper for us compared to someone signing them from us. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:50 - Sep 1 with 4148 views | LeoMuff |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:42 - Sep 1 by Schmoke | For somebody who speaks so well on BM, it's surprising to see you post in a deliberately provocative nature on here. What do you aim to get out of it? |
Totally irrelevant post as well, only have to look at Kundai Bendu s career to know that getting a good contract at a high level doesn’t mean you won’t be playing club football in Iceland in 4 years time, in fact it probably increases the chance of failure. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:50 - Sep 1 with 4136 views | Swailsey |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:44 - Sep 1 by Jimmy86 | Agreed, but I for 1 am glad the club didn't bend over backwards and allow themselves to be dictated to by him or his agent... he seemed to think more of himself than the club did, which is his perogative.. he has done nothing in a town shirt and then decided after 1 half decent spell in the league below.. that he deserves a first team player status contract.. maybe an up and coming first team contract, but not an established first teamer contract... Good luck to him [Post edited 1 Sep 2022 12:47]
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:51 - Sep 1 with 4146 views | itfcjoe |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:45 - Sep 1 by clive_baker | 9x as much dollar as he was on here too. He's made a good move for him and people shouldn't begrudge that. It is what it is, we've driven a hard bargain to be fair and not from a position of massive strength given his contract situation. A nice sell on fee if he really kicks on, but also a half decent initial fee which will look even better if he doesn't really kick on. |
I think one of the main things seemed to become that current setup didn't really rate him - great move for him and a half decent fee for him. Fact he is now on 9x as much shows you how little he was on - guessing something £325 a week to £3k a week |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:52 - Sep 1 with 4097 views | NthQldITFC |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:45 - Sep 1 by clive_baker | 9x as much dollar as he was on here too. He's made a good move for him and people shouldn't begrudge that. It is what it is, we've driven a hard bargain to be fair and not from a position of massive strength given his contract situation. A nice sell on fee if he really kicks on, but also a half decent initial fee which will look even better if he doesn't really kick on. |
I think we've done really well on this deal. If we've got a decent fee in the order of £500k for a player who I'm far from convinced will make it at Championship level, and we've got a decent sell-on percentage as well, just in case, then I think it's a great bit of business. If it funds Ahadme as well, who looks pretty good from the bits of video I've seen, it's brilliant. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:54 - Sep 1 with 4036 views | clive_baker |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:50 - Sep 1 by jayessess | Yeah, we seem to have done well with actually negotiating his exit for a decent fee. But in future we really have to get serious about making competitive contract offers to these players. When they've come through our academy, we have the advantage that they're in the building, they know the place, they like the coaches, we have time to persuade them. Getting the likes of Simpson and Gibbs to sign up should be easier and cheaper for us compared to someone signing them from us. |
Could not agree more. I would like us to show some confidence that we can bring young players into the senior side, develop them ourselves, benefit from their contribution for a couple of years at least and then get 100% of their sell on fee, rather than 20%. Especially so when you consider the money TS agent was asking for. It was peanuts in the grand scheme of things, and people would be shocked at what he was on here. The situation feels entirely avoidable, as did Gibbs. BUT, given where we found ourselves we've probably made a decent fist of a bad situation. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:55 - Sep 1 with 4028 views | itfcjoe |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:50 - Sep 1 by LeoMuff | Totally irrelevant post as well, only have to look at Kundai Bendu s career to know that getting a good contract at a high level doesn’t mean you won’t be playing club football in Iceland in 4 years time, in fact it probably increases the chance of failure. |
In what world does a 4 year contract increase the risk of failure? Huddersfield have made a big investment in him and will be determined to get it right or give him at the very least the best opportunity to. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:56 - Sep 1 with 4001 views | Jimmy86 |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:50 - Sep 1 by Swailsey | Based on…? |
The reason he turned down the new contract on offer was that he wanted 1 more in line with being a first teambplayer, as opposed to am U23 player, which effectively is what he was for us.. he thought he was worth more, the club clearly didn't, impasse reached and that's now the end of it |  | |  |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:57 - Sep 1 with 3965 views | PhilTWTD |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:56 - Sep 1 by Jimmy86 | The reason he turned down the new contract on offer was that he wanted 1 more in line with being a first teambplayer, as opposed to am U23 player, which effectively is what he was for us.. he thought he was worth more, the club clearly didn't, impasse reached and that's now the end of it |
Don't think his demands were unreasonable given his success at Swindon, from what I heard. Ideally, a new deal would have been sorted before he went there. |  | |  |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:58 - Sep 1 with 3940 views | clive_baker |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:51 - Sep 1 by itfcjoe | I think one of the main things seemed to become that current setup didn't really rate him - great move for him and a half decent fee for him. Fact he is now on 9x as much shows you how little he was on - guessing something £325 a week to £3k a week |
Not far off at all with that guess, with his signing on fee. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:59 - Sep 1 with 3913 views | TVRBlue | Congratulations to Simpson, and well done his Agent for finally getting a better deal for him over the line. Moving forward, I really hope he does well with his footballing career. Also, well done to Ashton (and anyone else involved) for getting a good deal for ITFC for a very young player who hasn't played much senior football to date. |  | |  |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 13:03 - Sep 1 with 3827 views | clive_baker |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:52 - Sep 1 by NthQldITFC | I think we've done really well on this deal. If we've got a decent fee in the order of £500k for a player who I'm far from convinced will make it at Championship level, and we've got a decent sell-on percentage as well, just in case, then I think it's a great bit of business. If it funds Ahadme as well, who looks pretty good from the bits of video I've seen, it's brilliant. |
Given our position I agree. If he becomes a £5m - £10m player and Huddersfield sell him then ultimately we've got £1.5m - £2.5m for someone unproven, never scored above L2, final year of contract and selling as a L1 club. If he doesn't, or he's a couple of million then we get something approaching £800k. Any less than that and we've got £500k for him which will certainly seem like value. Now what'll happen is sods law Huddersfield go down, he'll get firing and they'll end up selling not from a position of power for about £2m, then we'll watch him tear it up at his next club and move on for £60m to Man City. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 13:07 - Sep 1 with 3744 views | mylittletown |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:57 - Sep 1 by PhilTWTD | Don't think his demands were unreasonable given his success at Swindon, from what I heard. Ideally, a new deal would have been sorted before he went there. |
So do you think that we may have cut off our nose to spite our face? |  | |  |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 13:10 - Sep 1 with 3682 views | Jimmy86 |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:57 - Sep 1 by PhilTWTD | Don't think his demands were unreasonable given his success at Swindon, from what I heard. Ideally, a new deal would have been sorted before he went there. |
Well clearly the club didn't value him as much as he valued himself I'm guessing? I think Ashton and the new owners have certainly got more right than they have wrong, thus far. I still think if he was good enough, he would have had more opportunities here |  | |  |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 13:11 - Sep 1 with 3643 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:41 - Sep 1 by ITFCBlues | Nothing to do with time will tell! Longer contract at Championship club on what you'd presume on more money. Fair play to him for not mugging himself off with the low ball offer here. |
You're basing your view on earnings. I'm basing my view on how his career turns out. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 13:12 - Sep 1 with 3636 views | tractordownsouth |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 12:56 - Sep 1 by Jimmy86 | The reason he turned down the new contract on offer was that he wanted 1 more in line with being a first teambplayer, as opposed to am U23 player, which effectively is what he was for us.. he thought he was worth more, the club clearly didn't, impasse reached and that's now the end of it |
If he was genuinely on £325 a week then even as a bit-part player he would have been entitled to ask for more than that. |  |
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4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 13:12 - Sep 1 with 3636 views | PhilTWTD |
4 year contract for Simpson at a Championship club.... on 13:07 - Sep 1 by mylittletown | So do you think that we may have cut off our nose to spite our face? |
I think we may have been overly rigid in what was offered to him, but perhaps that was as he wasn't rated particularly highly. Having said that, it's pretty similar to the Liam Gibbs situation a year earlier. Think bringing players through from being senior U23s, so to speak, to first-teamers is something we have to work on. We've lost too many players lately at that stage. Dobra's another, apparently lots of clubs from higher divisions already turning up at Chesterfield to watch him. |  | |  |
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