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2 interesting FA cup stats 19:22 - Nov 8 with 5031 viewsDaninthecampo

Stolen from the EADT
Since that win in 1978, we have now featured in ten live FA Cup ties. Before Monday night, we had lost eight of the previous nine ties with only the 0-0 draw against Liverpool in the fifth round in February 1992 saving us from a clean sweep of defeats.
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With just two wins in our previous 23 FA Cup ties, that put us 92nd out of all football league clubs, in terms of wins

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2 interesting FA cup stats on 21:21 - Nov 8 with 1690 viewsHighgateBlue

2 interesting FA cup stats on 20:52 - Nov 8 by farkenhell

As Trumpton said, the first club live televised game outside of the FA Cup Final didn't take place until the mid 80s. I remember watching it, pretty sure it was a Friday night, Southampton v Liverpool (or possibly Manure). It was a good game from what I recall
- Southampton won.


That's really odd. I recall seeing (on some random digital channel) a few years ago a re-run of an old 70s cup replay (like a 2nd or 3rd replay - back in the days when that happened). Does that mean that the old 70s match wasn't on TV originally, or that it was on TV, but just not live?

Clearly my details are non-existent, so you can't possibly know (sorry), but I guess my question is: did they used to show FA cup games on TV after the event, i.e. not live?

Or else maybe I'm just going mad...
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 21:27 - Nov 8 with 1687 viewsTrequartista

There was a time when we had the highest successive 3rd Round wins. (16 from 1970-1986)

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2 interesting FA cup stats on 21:41 - Nov 8 with 1672 viewsfarkenhell

2 interesting FA cup stats on 21:21 - Nov 8 by HighgateBlue

That's really odd. I recall seeing (on some random digital channel) a few years ago a re-run of an old 70s cup replay (like a 2nd or 3rd replay - back in the days when that happened). Does that mean that the old 70s match wasn't on TV originally, or that it was on TV, but just not live?

Clearly my details are non-existent, so you can't possibly know (sorry), but I guess my question is: did they used to show FA cup games on TV after the event, i.e. not live?

Or else maybe I'm just going mad...


I don't recall seeing a non-final game in its entirety after the event. You could possibly have seen footage that was originally broadcast in mainland Europe? I know, for example, that English club games were broadcast live in Scandinavia way before the introduction of live TV games in England.
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 21:49 - Nov 8 with 1656 viewsNthsuffolkblue

2 interesting FA cup stats on 21:21 - Nov 8 by HighgateBlue

That's really odd. I recall seeing (on some random digital channel) a few years ago a re-run of an old 70s cup replay (like a 2nd or 3rd replay - back in the days when that happened). Does that mean that the old 70s match wasn't on TV originally, or that it was on TV, but just not live?

Clearly my details are non-existent, so you can't possibly know (sorry), but I guess my question is: did they used to show FA cup games on TV after the event, i.e. not live?

Or else maybe I'm just going mad...


They must have recorded entire matches in order to be able to show highlights. Whether archives kept any entire unedited footage and whether any channel has subsequently played them I don't know.

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2 interesting FA cup stats on 22:39 - Nov 8 with 1630 viewsgainsboroughblue

Without looking, I make that.

1988- Man Utd (H) 1-2
1992 Liverpool (H) 0-0
1992 Liverpool (A) 2-3
1994 Wolves (H) 1-2
1999 Southampton (H) 0-1
2002 Man City (H) 2-4
2015 Southampton (H) 0-1
2021 Barrow (A) 0-2
2022 Bracknell (A) 3-0

I'm missing a tenth though, was the Chelsea 0-7 game on live? It was definitely on a Sunday.

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2 interesting FA cup stats on 22:42 - Nov 8 with 1622 viewsgainsboroughblue

2 interesting FA cup stats on 20:52 - Nov 8 by farkenhell

As Trumpton said, the first club live televised game outside of the FA Cup Final didn't take place until the mid 80s. I remember watching it, pretty sure it was a Friday night, Southampton v Liverpool (or possibly Manure). It was a good game from what I recall
- Southampton won.


I can recall that game. It was Soton v Liverpool and there was a wonder Danny Wallace goal from memory. There were a lot of Friday night live games, mostly involving Liverpool. And an overhead kick scored by Alan Brazil for Spurs at Old Trafford.

I do remember a second division game being televised around about then, think it was Chelsea v Man City.
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 23:04 - Nov 8 with 1600 viewsfarkenhell

2 interesting FA cup stats on 21:21 - Nov 8 by HighgateBlue

That's really odd. I recall seeing (on some random digital channel) a few years ago a re-run of an old 70s cup replay (like a 2nd or 3rd replay - back in the days when that happened). Does that mean that the old 70s match wasn't on TV originally, or that it was on TV, but just not live?

Clearly my details are non-existent, so you can't possibly know (sorry), but I guess my question is: did they used to show FA cup games on TV after the event, i.e. not live?

Or else maybe I'm just going mad...


Thinking about it some more, could it have been the replay of the Leeds v Chelsea FA Cup Final, which I think was in 1970?
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 23:58 - Nov 8 with 1578 viewsArnoldMoorhen

2 interesting FA cup stats on 19:28 - Nov 8 by Nthsuffolkblue

Is that correct? Only 10 times on TV at all since 78? Not one televised FA Cup match throughout the 80s that we won? That doesn't seem right. We had the record for consecutive seasons getting through the 3rd round around then didn't we?

I don't think there is an easy to see list of televised matches is there?


There weren't many Live televised football matches in the late 70s and early 80s. Highlights- yes, but live outside broadcasts were prohibitively expensive and reserved for some England internationals and the FA Cup Final.
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 00:14 - Nov 9 with 1569 viewsstonojnr

2 interesting FA cup stats on 20:50 - Nov 8 by TrumptonBlue

And, of course, even UEFA Cup finals weren’t covered.


they did by 84 as I remember watching Spurs winning it on penalties, and Id just have checked ceefax if it was highlights.
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 00:34 - Nov 9 with 1558 viewsgainsboroughblue

2 interesting FA cup stats on 00:14 - Nov 9 by stonojnr

they did by 84 as I remember watching Spurs winning it on penalties, and Id just have checked ceefax if it was highlights.


A year before that, the Cup Winners Cup final between Aberdeen and Real Madrid was live too.

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2 interesting FA cup stats on 06:36 - Nov 9 with 1522 viewsElephantintheRoom

2 interesting FA cup stats on 19:28 - Nov 8 by Nthsuffolkblue

Is that correct? Only 10 times on TV at all since 78? Not one televised FA Cup match throughout the 80s that we won? That doesn't seem right. We had the record for consecutive seasons getting through the 3rd round around then didn't we?

I don't think there is an easy to see list of televised matches is there?


Depends how you define ´on TV’. In 1978 I’m guessing only one FA Cup game was on television live.

Prior to 1975, when Town’s run to the semi final was a regular on match of the day Ipswich had never made it past the 6th round. Which for many of those years meant a cup run was winning two games.

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2 interesting FA cup stats on 08:00 - Nov 9 with 1483 viewsITFC_History

2 interesting FA cup stats on 22:39 - Nov 8 by gainsboroughblue

Without looking, I make that.

1988- Man Utd (H) 1-2
1992 Liverpool (H) 0-0
1992 Liverpool (A) 2-3
1994 Wolves (H) 1-2
1999 Southampton (H) 0-1
2002 Man City (H) 2-4
2015 Southampton (H) 0-1
2021 Barrow (A) 0-2
2022 Bracknell (A) 3-0

I'm missing a tenth though, was the Chelsea 0-7 game on live? It was definitely on a Sunday.


2017 - Lincoln (A) 0-1

Was the one you had missing
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 08:38 - Nov 9 with 1475 viewsfarkenhell

2 interesting FA cup stats on 08:00 - Nov 9 by ITFC_History

2017 - Lincoln (A) 0-1

Was the one you had missing


I think we've all made a subconscious effort to forget that one! (forgive the oxymoron)
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 08:46 - Nov 9 with 1471 viewsITFC_Forever

Up until the 1989 re-scheduled semi between Liverpool and Forest (following the disaster), FA Cup semis weren't on tv.

So throughout the 80s, the only FA Cup game we had on TV was the Man U game in 1988.

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2 interesting FA cup stats on 08:49 - Nov 9 with 1466 viewsITFC_Forever

2 interesting FA cup stats on 22:39 - Nov 8 by gainsboroughblue

Without looking, I make that.

1988- Man Utd (H) 1-2
1992 Liverpool (H) 0-0
1992 Liverpool (A) 2-3
1994 Wolves (H) 1-2
1999 Southampton (H) 0-1
2002 Man City (H) 2-4
2015 Southampton (H) 0-1
2021 Barrow (A) 0-2
2022 Bracknell (A) 3-0

I'm missing a tenth though, was the Chelsea 0-7 game on live? It was definitely on a Sunday.


No, the 0-7 wasn't on tv, even though it was moved to a Sunday.

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2 interesting FA cup stats on 08:50 - Nov 9 with 1459 viewsITFC_Forever

2 interesting FA cup stats on 21:21 - Nov 8 by HighgateBlue

That's really odd. I recall seeing (on some random digital channel) a few years ago a re-run of an old 70s cup replay (like a 2nd or 3rd replay - back in the days when that happened). Does that mean that the old 70s match wasn't on TV originally, or that it was on TV, but just not live?

Clearly my details are non-existent, so you can't possibly know (sorry), but I guess my question is: did they used to show FA cup games on TV after the event, i.e. not live?

Or else maybe I'm just going mad...


Matches were recorded and shown on Match of the Day in the evening.

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2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:16 - Nov 9 with 1425 viewsHighgateBlue

2 interesting FA cup stats on 08:50 - Nov 9 by ITFC_Forever

Matches were recorded and shown on Match of the Day in the evening.


Thanks, that's interesting. It's strange that the evening TV schedule could cope with a recorded match being dumped on it, but the afternoon schedule couldn't cope with a live match.
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:17 - Nov 9 with 1425 viewsHighgateBlue

2 interesting FA cup stats on 23:04 - Nov 8 by farkenhell

Thinking about it some more, could it have been the replay of the Leeds v Chelsea FA Cup Final, which I think was in 1970?


No, it was nothing so glamorous as that. Just some random round. I recall looking it up to see how many replays there were in total and being surprised at how many there were. But I can't recall either the teams or the result. Getting old...
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:21 - Nov 9 with 1422 viewsRadlett_blue

2 interesting FA cup stats on 23:58 - Nov 8 by ArnoldMoorhen

There weren't many Live televised football matches in the late 70s and early 80s. Highlights- yes, but live outside broadcasts were prohibitively expensive and reserved for some England internationals and the FA Cup Final.


Cost came into it but yes, in my early days the only live football on TV was the Cup Final, the World Cup finals. In 1969 they decided to show all 6 games in the Home Internationals live, but some attendances were very poor, apart from England v Scotland, which was always a sell out so this wasn't continued.
There was an experiment with live Football League TV in 1960, involving the second half of Blackpool v Bolton, but the gate was poor, maybe because of the 6:50pm Saturday kick off. Other games in the pipeline were dropped, partly becasue some clubs refused permission. In the 1960s & 1970s, some clubs banned Match of the Day cameras from their grounds, notably the irascible Bob Lord at Burnley.
Sporadic live League games on terrestrial TV began in the 1983-84 season. THe value of these rights slowly increased, then Sky grabbed the Premier League & the rest is history,

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2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:29 - Nov 9 with 1408 viewsPhilTWTD

2 interesting FA cup stats on 22:39 - Nov 8 by gainsboroughblue

Without looking, I make that.

1988- Man Utd (H) 1-2
1992 Liverpool (H) 0-0
1992 Liverpool (A) 2-3
1994 Wolves (H) 1-2
1999 Southampton (H) 0-1
2002 Man City (H) 2-4
2015 Southampton (H) 0-1
2021 Barrow (A) 0-2
2022 Bracknell (A) 3-0

I'm missing a tenth though, was the Chelsea 0-7 game on live? It was definitely on a Sunday.


Was Wolves 1994 on TV? I don't remember that and I was living away so would have watched it.

I do remember the replay. I was out and got back and looked the score up on Teletext where the headline was 'Thompson Wins Cup Replay' leading to cheers until I read further and realised it was Andy Thompson not Neil.
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:32 - Nov 9 with 1396 viewsTrumptonBlue

2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:29 - Nov 9 by PhilTWTD

Was Wolves 1994 on TV? I don't remember that and I was living away so would have watched it.

I do remember the replay. I was out and got back and looked the score up on Teletext where the headline was 'Thompson Wins Cup Replay' leading to cheers until I read further and realised it was Andy Thompson not Neil.


The Wolves replay was on Sky. The whole game is on YouTube.



Paul Cook comes on as sub for them (1h 48m in). He has hair and looks funny.

Edit: I don't know why that link doesn't work, but I'm sure you're all resourceful enough to find it for yourselves.
[Post edited 9 Nov 2022 10:54]
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:35 - Nov 9 with 1389 viewsfarkenhell

2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:16 - Nov 9 by HighgateBlue

Thanks, that's interesting. It's strange that the evening TV schedule could cope with a recorded match being dumped on it, but the afternoon schedule couldn't cope with a live match.


Only highlights were shown in the evening on Match of the Day though, very much like they are today. I can't remember a whole match (i.e. 90 minutes) being recorded and shown later (unless my rapidly diminishing memory is letting me down).
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:36 - Nov 9 with 1387 viewsPhilTWTD

2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:32 - Nov 9 by TrumptonBlue

The Wolves replay was on Sky. The whole game is on YouTube.



Paul Cook comes on as sub for them (1h 48m in). He has hair and looks funny.

Edit: I don't know why that link doesn't work, but I'm sure you're all resourceful enough to find it for yourselves.
[Post edited 9 Nov 2022 10:54]


Was it really? I must have had no idea at the time or I'd have watched it.
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2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:42 - Nov 9 with 1363 viewsITFC_Forever

2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:36 - Nov 9 by PhilTWTD

Was it really? I must have had no idea at the time or I'd have watched it.


I can remember watching it in a pub in Stoke when I was at uni.

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2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:43 - Nov 9 with 1361 viewsfarkenhell

2 interesting FA cup stats on 10:29 - Nov 9 by PhilTWTD

Was Wolves 1994 on TV? I don't remember that and I was living away so would have watched it.

I do remember the replay. I was out and got back and looked the score up on Teletext where the headline was 'Thompson Wins Cup Replay' leading to cheers until I read further and realised it was Andy Thompson not Neil.


The first game (away) wasn't on TV - I think it finished 1-1 (I remember Warky scored for us)? The replay at home was live on Sky - I remember watching it at my local football club. It was a depressing game. We were in the Premier League and Wolves were in the 2nd division.
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