| We're unbeaten in 6 league games 10:53 - Dec 3 with 2739 views | Dubtractor |
3 wins, 3 draws.
As frustrating as last night was, and it really was pretty poor, if this is our blip then we're not going to be too far out when the season ends. Half a team of midfielders and attackers out, and we're still picking up points at a decent rate.
Not trying to dismiss concerns about some (not all) recent games, but I really do think that a bit of perspective needs to be kept. |  |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 10:57 - Dec 3 with 2263 views | GlasgowBlue |
Stop being so fcuking sensible. |  |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:03 - Dec 3 with 2244 views | davblue |
Yeah but Frimmers says we aren’t good enough and that McKenna is t up to it yet we are 2nd and 1 point off top. |  | | |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:07 - Dec 3 with 2219 views | FrimleyBlue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:03 - Dec 3 by davblue |
Yeah but Frimmers says we aren’t good enough and that McKenna is t up to it yet we are 2nd and 1 point off top. |
good twist on my posts.
If you'd like to be truthful, my posts have been about certain 'things' that haven't been good enough and Mckenna does need to do more with game management, I've seen alot of posts saying they 'trust' the manager, my question was how there's trust in someone in their first year of management.
good attempt at getting the board to jump on me though. |  |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:09 - Dec 3 with 2216 views | davblue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:07 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
good twist on my posts.
If you'd like to be truthful, my posts have been about certain 'things' that haven't been good enough and Mckenna does need to do more with game management, I've seen alot of posts saying they 'trust' the manager, my question was how there's trust in someone in their first year of management.
good attempt at getting the board to jump on me though. |
No attempt for a pile on, just your hyperbole position over the last 14 hours without any context or awareness of our situation.
Oh and here’s what you posted to Joe “you have full trust in a manager in his first full season as a manager whose side has thrown away point after point from winning positions at home and someone who'd rather take 4 defenders on the bench.
Of course in 3/4 years time when he's no longer with town he may have learnt from these mistakes... but for Town, we need him to learn and learn fast“
Implying McKenna’ isn’t up to it. [Post edited 3 Dec 2022 11:13]
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:12 - Dec 3 with 2203 views | LankHenners |
Exactly, I don't know why I bothered posting on here last night really as I hate this place after a loss or a bad draw because all the bedwetters come out spraying their rancid piss everywhere.
We'll get dodgy results again, so will others - I imagine Plymouth thought Port Vale at home was a banker for 3 points. We're in a very good place and thankfully the manager and the players are far more level-headed than some on here. |  |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:12 - Dec 3 with 2195 views | FrimleyBlue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:09 - Dec 3 by davblue |
No attempt for a pile on, just your hyperbole position over the last 14 hours without any context or awareness of our situation.
Oh and here’s what you posted to Joe “you have full trust in a manager in his first full season as a manager whose side has thrown away point after point from winning positions at home and someone who'd rather take 4 defenders on the bench.
Of course in 3/4 years time when he's no longer with town he may have learnt from these mistakes... but for Town, we need him to learn and learn fast“
Implying McKenna’ isn’t up to it. [Post edited 3 Dec 2022 11:13]
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Oh so you're just picking my posts out from the other posters saying the same thing, but you're not piling on. interesting. | |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:15 - Dec 3 with 2171 views | pointofblue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:09 - Dec 3 by davblue |
No attempt for a pile on, just your hyperbole position over the last 14 hours without any context or awareness of our situation.
Oh and here’s what you posted to Joe “you have full trust in a manager in his first full season as a manager whose side has thrown away point after point from winning positions at home and someone who'd rather take 4 defenders on the bench.
Of course in 3/4 years time when he's no longer with town he may have learnt from these mistakes... but for Town, we need him to learn and learn fast“
Implying McKenna’ isn’t up to it. [Post edited 3 Dec 2022 11:13]
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I think the issue was not necessarily the result but the performance. In some ways the Lincoln match was easier to accept as it was a case of “if we play like that most weeks we should win more than we lose” whereas, if we play like we did last night, we’re going to lose more than we win.
It was a jolt back to possibly the Mick era where we would, at times, allow teams room to play then try and hit them on the counter. But, with no offence to Fleetwood (except maybe Earl), that was against much better players.
The sensible thing to do would be to dismiss it as a one off for now unless it becomes a reoccurring theme. But some people emotionally invest in football more than others, and some are naturally more pessimistic than others, so there will be extreme takes straight after games. I’ll freely admit I provide some of those. |  |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:15 - Dec 3 with 2172 views | davblue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:12 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
Oh so you're just picking my posts out from the other posters saying the same thing, but you're not piling on. interesting. |
I’m not, I’m stating your position quite clearly in what you’ve responded in other threads.
If you can’t handle what you post being put back on you to prove a point then don’t post it. | | | |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:16 - Dec 3 with 2146 views | FrimleyBlue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:15 - Dec 3 by davblue |
I’m not, I’m stating your position quite clearly in what you’ve responded in other threads.
If you can’t handle what you post being put back on you to prove a point then don’t post it. |
I'm all for it, but not when you lie about what's been posted. | |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:19 - Dec 3 with 2122 views | FrimleyBlue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:09 - Dec 3 by davblue |
No attempt for a pile on, just your hyperbole position over the last 14 hours without any context or awareness of our situation.
Oh and here’s what you posted to Joe “you have full trust in a manager in his first full season as a manager whose side has thrown away point after point from winning positions at home and someone who'd rather take 4 defenders on the bench.
Of course in 3/4 years time when he's no longer with town he may have learnt from these mistakes... but for Town, we need him to learn and learn fast“
Implying McKenna’ isn’t up to it. [Post edited 3 Dec 2022 11:13]
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Not sure why you feel im implying he's not up to it based on that. Im hopeful he is. What I don't understand is how anyone can put their trust in someone in their first year of management. Good for you if you can, but I can't feel that trust in someone who hasn't been able to show with experience that there is something to trust. | |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:20 - Dec 3 with 2126 views | davblue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:15 - Dec 3 by pointofblue |
I think the issue was not necessarily the result but the performance. In some ways the Lincoln match was easier to accept as it was a case of “if we play like that most weeks we should win more than we lose” whereas, if we play like we did last night, we’re going to lose more than we win.
It was a jolt back to possibly the Mick era where we would, at times, allow teams room to play then try and hit them on the counter. But, with no offence to Fleetwood (except maybe Earl), that was against much better players.
The sensible thing to do would be to dismiss it as a one off for now unless it becomes a reoccurring theme. But some people emotionally invest in football more than others, and some are naturally more pessimistic than others, so there will be extreme takes straight after games. I’ll freely admit I provide some of those. |
Yesterday wasn’t great, I get that but over the season we haven’t t as a rule of thumb played like that too often.
The team and the club can be criticised, I’m not one of those where everything is perfect but I don’t see why we need to start panicking, we have a manager who appears to be a problem solver, corners last year were rectified, if might mean that we need to dip
Into the market to get players who can help us but he’s more than earned my trust over the last year. | | | |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:21 - Dec 3 with 2115 views | davblue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:15 - Dec 3 by davblue |
I’m not, I’m stating your position quite clearly in what you’ve responded in other threads.
If you can’t handle what you post being put back on you to prove a point then don’t post it. |
Ok, you carry on. | | | |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:22 - Dec 3 with 2102 views | davblue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:19 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
Not sure why you feel im implying he's not up to it based on that. Im hopeful he is. What I don't understand is how anyone can put their trust in someone in their first year of management. Good for you if you can, but I can't feel that trust in someone who hasn't been able to show with experience that there is something to trust. |
Because his record over the last 11 months has been very, very good for a rookie manager.
If you can’t see that then you are truly lost. | | | |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:27 - Dec 3 with 2068 views | FrimleyBlue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:22 - Dec 3 by davblue |
Because his record over the last 11 months has been very, very good for a rookie manager.
If you can’t see that then you are truly lost. |
But that's personal choice. That's not me saying he's not upto it. I just can't automatically trust a manager who's yet to achieve anything in senior football.
This is exactly why you and others ( rightfully based on your beliefs) can just relax and take the season as it comes. I can't. and exactly why every week brings different emotions.
Once that trust in KM comes.. i'd become more relaxed and take things as a meh when they don't go a postive way. | |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:41 - Dec 3 with 2004 views | pointofblue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:27 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
But that's personal choice. That's not me saying he's not upto it. I just can't automatically trust a manager who's yet to achieve anything in senior football.
This is exactly why you and others ( rightfully based on your beliefs) can just relax and take the season as it comes. I can't. and exactly why every week brings different emotions.
Once that trust in KM comes.. i'd become more relaxed and take things as a meh when they don't go a postive way. |
Did you have more trust in the likes of Hurst, Lambert and Cook, who did have varying degrees of experience in managing professional football teams? | |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:46 - Dec 3 with 1991 views | clive_baker |
Yeah it’s not doom and gloom when our rocky patch is yielding 2 points per game. There’s the feeling that it could’ve been so much better though, and the lottery of the playoffs is something we have to avoid. |  |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:50 - Dec 3 with 1967 views | FrimleyBlue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:41 - Dec 3 by pointofblue |
Did you have more trust in the likes of Hurst, Lambert and Cook, who did have varying degrees of experience in managing professional football teams? |
I did, and that's why I pretty much spent most weeks with a meh attitude and trust the process mentality, they'd both achieved enough to think this blip will end soon etc, with PC it was everlasting. until i think it was the Bolton game that started the concern for me, and then ( or it may have been Bolton) but we had 2 full weeks of training with no fixtures, and we then came out and put in the worst performance of the season.. that's when he'd lost me.
Not with Hurst though has I didn't know alot about him and felt he was a risky management move based on the 2nd half of the season he had had before coming to us.
KM. I like him and i think he's going to be a very very good manager. My concern is how quickly he develops as a manager and will it get us promoted, or will he fail here whilst learning but go on to succeed elsewhere.
I just find it annoying that fans on a forum can pick out certain aspects of problems, but then they don't seem to be fixed by those in charge.
Yesturday wasn't a fluke result, despite KM saying as such, that's concerning for me. | |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:51 - Dec 3 with 1965 views | Steve_M |
Yes the bigger picture remains good, but I think failing to hold an early lead in successive home matches has to be a bit of a concern. Charlton was a freak match but, in different ways, yesterday and Cheltenham were both incredibly frustrating.
The points elsewhere on how stretched the squad is are relevant, it’s not surprising that it was the midfield and forward positions where we struggled last night. It’s a long season and December is clearly going to be a tough month for us, just how bad those dropped points turn out to be might be clearer after January 2nd. If we are too three and not more then a point or two behind Plymouth and Wednesday then (or even better than that!) then we’ll be well placed. |  |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 13:21 - Dec 3 with 1878 views | Illinoisblue |
It is a good reminder. Had a great night with friends last night but I woke up angry this morning. The power of football eh? I think this latest kick in the teeth coming so soon after the stamping on bollox that was Charlton makes everything seem worse. Plymouth losing, top of the league we go, merry Xmas, lovely jubbly. No no no no, nope.
Just need to muddle through the next few weeks then smash the window, as it were |  |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 13:47 - Dec 3 with 1823 views | Bent_double |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:12 - Dec 3 by LankHenners |
Exactly, I don't know why I bothered posting on here last night really as I hate this place after a loss or a bad draw because all the bedwetters come out spraying their rancid piss everywhere.
We'll get dodgy results again, so will others - I imagine Plymouth thought Port Vale at home was a banker for 3 points. We're in a very good place and thankfully the manager and the players are far more level-headed than some on here. |
Well, the Plymouth fan who posts on here said a few days ago that they are expecting to lose to PV, for what it's worth.
I only listened to the match last night, so can't really comment on the performance, but by the sound of it, it might have been similar to the Eng v USA game a few days ago, not great, but a valuable point at the end of the day.
Personally, I was hoping - or expecting 50 points from the 1st half of the season - still doable, but unlikely considering the next 3 games...but 46+ should be good enough, but boy could we do with someone who can offer a little bit more in the creating chances/goal scoring department in Jan. |  |
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| Also, and yes I know I know it’s Fleetwood, but Brown has them set up very wel on 14:09 - Dec 3 with 1782 views | unstableblue |
… and very motivated
He is a quality up and coming manager |  |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 15:21 - Dec 3 with 1708 views | BlueBadger |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 11:03 - Dec 3 by davblue |
Yeah but Frimmers says we aren’t good enough and that McKenna is t up to it yet we are 2nd and 1 point off top. |
I'm starting to think that Frimmers might not be oracle that he appears to be. |  |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 16:14 - Dec 3 with 1629 views | chicoazul |
Draws are not good enough. Especially at home against the likes of Fleetwood. This club will *not* succeed in the play offs. |  |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 17:15 - Dec 3 with 1587 views | Trequartista |
I also think if you switch our home and away record, and switch last minute concessions to last minute equalisers, people would be much happier and we'd be in exactly the same position. |  |
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| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 21:06 - Dec 3 with 1474 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| We're unbeaten in 6 league games on 16:14 - Dec 3 by chicoazul |
Draws are not good enough. Especially at home against the likes of Fleetwood. This club will *not* succeed in the play offs. |
I make you right.
If we finish top two, we won't be succeeding in the play-offs.
It is important we maintain our current form and seal a top two slot. |  |
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