| Whittaker Latest 23:57 - Dec 31 with 39671 views | TalkingBlues |
A little birdie tells me that Swansea don’t see him returning to play 1st team football and need money for January transfer targets, so any move would be a purchase and not a loan. Valuation sits at £1.5 million to £2 million so he is well within our sights from a valuation perspective and there has definitely been “serious interest” from Ipswich.
Looks like this could be more realistic than previously thought on here. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 13:01 - Jan 7 with 3312 views | jayessess |
| Whittaker Latest on 12:19 - Jan 7 by J2BLUE |
I do think that post is a bit arrogant.
Why would he not want to return to Plymouth? He's loving it there, they love him and they are in pole position to go up where they would probably buy him. There's nothing wrong with admitting that.
I completely agree he might not get the option but seems fair enough to think that would be his preference. |
Think any prediction based on "love" in football is probably a bit naïve in most cases?
To most players a club is just an employer. Some you like working for, some you don't, but ultimately your career comes first. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 13:10 - Jan 7 with 3236 views | J2BLUE |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:01 - Jan 7 by jayessess |
Think any prediction based on "love" in football is probably a bit naïve in most cases?
To most players a club is just an employer. Some you like working for, some you don't, but ultimately your career comes first. |
Agree but when he loves playing there and his stock is increasing by the week it's a different matter.
I would imagine if we are interested his agent is in his ear telling him it's a great move. Same if it's a Championship club etc. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 13:19 - Jan 7 with 3159 views | BABLUE |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:10 - Jan 7 by J2BLUE |
Agree but when he loves playing there and his stock is increasing by the week it's a different matter.
I would imagine if we are interested his agent is in his ear telling him it's a great move. Same if it's a Championship club etc. |
He can’t play for Swansea today as he played before for Plymouth in the cup.
It looks like he’s not going to play for Swansea, so it’s a case of someone meeting their valuation of him to sign him permanently or going on loan somewhere else by the end of the month with his wages being met in full (probably) by the loan club.
Plymouth clearly can’t afford to buy him otherwise that deal will have been done already.
If Swansea want to sell him to raise funds for transfers for January then they need to sell him sooner rather than later. I suspect that if he’s not sold in the next 2 weeks, he could well und up back at Plymouth, assuming they will pay his wages in full. |  | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:20 - Jan 7 with 3148 views | Stewart27 |
| Whittaker Latest on 11:48 - Jan 7 by dannar |
He doesn’t want to join you full stop!
He’ll be back with us in January. |
Look pal. We know how this works.
We used to have a model like yours where our team was made up of loans. If a player gets a better offer, they go. If we offer Whittaker a better deal than he’s on at Swansea, he comes.
For what it’s worth I don’t think we will. |  | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:23 - Jan 7 with 3119 views | jayessess |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:10 - Jan 7 by J2BLUE |
Agree but when he loves playing there and his stock is increasing by the week it's a different matter.
I would imagine if we are interested his agent is in his ear telling him it's a great move. Same if it's a Championship club etc. |
I think a sensible agent in this situation is telling you to strike whilst the iron is hot. It's very nice to play in a team leading the league and have fans that adore you, but once you've shown you're too good for League One it isn't going to improve you stock much to keep showing it.
Get your move now because an injury, a decline in form etc. might mean it's off the table sooner than you think. | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 13:46 - Jan 7 with 2948 views | dannar |
| Whittaker Latest on 12:12 - Jan 7 by Horsham |
Oh ok. So he’s a footballer of high principles and he’ll not worry about the money because he’s got enough already…face it if we choose we can blow you out of the water financially. It’s not arrogance, it’s just the truth. We’ve suffered the same many times over with bigger and better resourced clubs taking our players. We has Daryl Murphy fresh off scoring 25 goals in the championship and Newcastle took him and paid at least double what we could. It happens.
Or maybe he hates us I don’t know, or Mark Ashton ran over his dog. I think your confidence is naive and misplaced but equally I don’t think we’ll get him…the only reason he won’t want to join us is because he thinks he can do bigger and better and with all due respect to Plymouth (sorry Argyle) that isn’t them despite the league position. |
Don’t be so sure you can “blow us out of the water.” You might want to fact check Evergreen consortium who recently purchased 20% stake. They have huge wealth across American sporting investors - whose first intention is to invest in infrastructure- which they’ve done. Next they’ll for sure make squad strengthening a priority. Hence our recent signings. There’s no nativity in my posts.
Just a different viewpoint. | | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:49 - Jan 7 with 2902 views | dannar |
| Whittaker Latest on 12:32 - Jan 7 by Big_Jase |
I don’t care where he goes ultimately, be nice to see him at Town but looks like we also have other targets. But don’t you think Plymouth have shot themselves in the foot a bit if they think they can bring him back? They know have 5 loanees and I’d be surprised if the figures quoted for a permanent deal, £1.5 - £2m is something Plymouth would consider. Which loanee would you sacrifice from the match day squad for him? |
No - I don’t think so. If he comes back in the window, then we would continue with the successful rotation we have all season. We have 16-18 very good players who can easily be regular first team players. | | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 14:05 - Jan 7 with 2801 views | LeoMuff |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:49 - Jan 7 by dannar |
No - I don’t think so. If he comes back in the window, then we would continue with the successful rotation we have all season. We have 16-18 very good players who can easily be regular first team players. |
There is no way he’s coming back, his worth has never been higher, Swansea want to cash in, he is going to be sold I’m afraid or stay at Swansea so as not to de value. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 14:20 - Jan 7 with 2718 views | pointofblue |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:46 - Jan 7 by dannar |
Don’t be so sure you can “blow us out of the water.” You might want to fact check Evergreen consortium who recently purchased 20% stake. They have huge wealth across American sporting investors - whose first intention is to invest in infrastructure- which they’ve done. Next they’ll for sure make squad strengthening a priority. Hence our recent signings. There’s no nativity in my posts.
Just a different viewpoint. |
Ah, so Plymouth are trying to buy their way to promotion too? Makes me feel much better about our current position; thanks for that. | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 14:23 - Jan 7 with 2693 views | positivity |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:46 - Jan 7 by dannar |
Don’t be so sure you can “blow us out of the water.” You might want to fact check Evergreen consortium who recently purchased 20% stake. They have huge wealth across American sporting investors - whose first intention is to invest in infrastructure- which they’ve done. Next they’ll for sure make squad strengthening a priority. Hence our recent signings. There’s no nativity in my posts.
Just a different viewpoint. |
may be so, but what relevance is the nativity to the situation? | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 14:25 - Jan 7 with 2640 views | LeoMuff |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:46 - Jan 7 by dannar |
Don’t be so sure you can “blow us out of the water.” You might want to fact check Evergreen consortium who recently purchased 20% stake. They have huge wealth across American sporting investors - whose first intention is to invest in infrastructure- which they’ve done. Next they’ll for sure make squad strengthening a priority. Hence our recent signings. There’s no nativity in my posts.
Just a different viewpoint. |
Just buy him then, we can afford it if the player wants to come, Plymouth want him and the player wants to stay so why not just pay the fee ? | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 14:28 - Jan 7 with 2581 views | Pique |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:46 - Jan 7 by dannar |
Don’t be so sure you can “blow us out of the water.” You might want to fact check Evergreen consortium who recently purchased 20% stake. They have huge wealth across American sporting investors - whose first intention is to invest in infrastructure- which they’ve done. Next they’ll for sure make squad strengthening a priority. Hence our recent signings. There’s no nativity in my posts.
Just a different viewpoint. |
If you could afford to buy him, you would have done so already. |  | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 14:31 - Jan 7 with 2555 views | TalkingBlues |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:46 - Jan 7 by dannar |
Don’t be so sure you can “blow us out of the water.” You might want to fact check Evergreen consortium who recently purchased 20% stake. They have huge wealth across American sporting investors - whose first intention is to invest in infrastructure- which they’ve done. Next they’ll for sure make squad strengthening a priority. Hence our recent signings. There’s no nativity in my posts.
Just a different viewpoint. |
Come off it, the investors paid £4million for a 20% equity stake and that money has already been spent, Hallett still owns 78%, the investment itself was a miracle given that most people won’t invest money to become a massive minority investor. The only way you get more money is if Hallett sells more of his stake. You just had your best player recalled (who could have fired you to promotion) but you can’t afford to pay the £2 million asking price to secure his signature on a permanent basis, so let’s be honest, does that sound like a club with money? | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 14:31 - Jan 7 with 2554 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Whittaker Latest on 13:46 - Jan 7 by dannar |
Don’t be so sure you can “blow us out of the water.” You might want to fact check Evergreen consortium who recently purchased 20% stake. They have huge wealth across American sporting investors - whose first intention is to invest in infrastructure- which they’ve done. Next they’ll for sure make squad strengthening a priority. Hence our recent signings. There’s no nativity in my posts.
Just a different viewpoint. |
No indeed, it's nice to hear their gold has got you nice and stable. It would to be frank incense me if a rival came in just assuming they could take one of our stars off us. You'd hope for myrrh in this day and age. [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 14:33]
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| Whittaker Latest on 14:33 - Jan 7 with 2529 views | pointofblue |
| Whittaker Latest on 14:28 - Jan 7 by Pique |
If you could afford to buy him, you would have done so already. |
Not necessarily, in fairness. It could be Swansea want more than Plymouth are willing to pay at this moment, even if the money is there. Perhaps Plymouth are hoping Whittaker being unsettled will push Swansea to lower the transfer fee to get some money in and get rid of an unhappy player. | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 14:36 - Jan 7 with 2503 views | Bobbychase |
| Whittaker Latest on 14:31 - Jan 7 by TalkingBlues |
Come off it, the investors paid £4million for a 20% equity stake and that money has already been spent, Hallett still owns 78%, the investment itself was a miracle given that most people won’t invest money to become a massive minority investor. The only way you get more money is if Hallett sells more of his stake. You just had your best player recalled (who could have fired you to promotion) but you can’t afford to pay the £2 million asking price to secure his signature on a permanent basis, so let’s be honest, does that sound like a club with money? |
And as anyone who has been to Home Park recently can attest, they haven't spent that much on infrastructure. The main stand is made of corrugated iron.
We average more than 10,000 more fans for home games than Plymouth this season, and our owners are richer than theirs.
If Plymouth could afford Whittaker, he'd be their player by now. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 14:36 - Jan 7 with 2497 views | TalkingBlues |
| Whittaker Latest on 14:33 - Jan 7 by pointofblue |
Not necessarily, in fairness. It could be Swansea want more than Plymouth are willing to pay at this moment, even if the money is there. Perhaps Plymouth are hoping Whittaker being unsettled will push Swansea to lower the transfer fee to get some money in and get rid of an unhappy player. |
No, they tried everything in their power to stop him going back and failed. He is/was available for purchase, they just couldn’t meet the valuation, a valuation that is very reasonable indeed. | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 14:49 - Jan 7 with 2374 views | J2BLUE |
| Whittaker Latest on 14:28 - Jan 7 by Pique |
If you could afford to buy him, you would have done so already. |
This isn't true though is it?
If they want him and we want him, Swansea are going to milk it for all it's worth. Not in Swansea's interest to accept a bid in first week of January. | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 15:01 - Jan 7 with 2314 views | Vegtablue |
| Whittaker Latest on 14:31 - Jan 7 by TalkingBlues |
Come off it, the investors paid £4million for a 20% equity stake and that money has already been spent, Hallett still owns 78%, the investment itself was a miracle given that most people won’t invest money to become a massive minority investor. The only way you get more money is if Hallett sells more of his stake. You just had your best player recalled (who could have fired you to promotion) but you can’t afford to pay the £2 million asking price to secure his signature on a permanent basis, so let’s be honest, does that sound like a club with money? |
I am beginning to wonder if dannar would be open to a loan move himself tbh 😂 | | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 15:23 - Jan 7 with 2226 views | Wakh |
| Whittaker Latest on 15:01 - Jan 7 by Vegtablue |
I am beginning to wonder if dannar would be open to a loan move himself tbh 😂 |
No way could we contribute towards 20% of his posts. | | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 17:00 - Jan 7 with 2047 views | dannar |
| Whittaker Latest on 14:31 - Jan 7 by FoghornGleghorn |
No indeed, it's nice to hear their gold has got you nice and stable. It would to be frank incense me if a rival came in just assuming they could take one of our stars off us. You'd hope for myrrh in this day and age. [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 14:33]
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Very nice work :-) | | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 17:07 - Jan 7 with 1955 views | dannar |
| Whittaker Latest on 14:36 - Jan 7 by Bobbychase |
And as anyone who has been to Home Park recently can attest, they haven't spent that much on infrastructure. The main stand is made of corrugated iron.
We average more than 10,000 more fans for home games than Plymouth this season, and our owners are richer than theirs.
If Plymouth could afford Whittaker, he'd be their player by now. |
Actually the infrastructure that has been invested in is a going to be a new training ground - land has just been purchased.
Ground is off-topic but since you mention it, the Main Stand has just been redeveloped!
It retains its original character as designed by Archibald Leitch.
We will need some further developments to add capacity in the future. | | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 17:08 - Jan 7 with 1927 views | dannar |
| Whittaker Latest on 14:25 - Jan 7 by LeoMuff |
Just buy him then, we can afford it if the player wants to come, Plymouth want him and the player wants to stay so why not just pay the fee ? |
We don’t value him as highly as Swansea. That doesn’t mean we can’t afford it. | | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 17:13 - Jan 7 with 1868 views | bluejacko |
| Whittaker Latest on 17:08 - Jan 7 by dannar |
We don’t value him as highly as Swansea. That doesn’t mean we can’t afford it. |
Right 😂😂 | | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 19:14 - Jan 7 with 1670 views | itfcjoe |
| Whittaker Latest on 17:08 - Jan 7 by dannar |
We don’t value him as highly as Swansea. That doesn’t mean we can’t afford it. |
It literally does |  |
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