| Whittaker Latest 23:57 - Dec 31 with 39660 views | TalkingBlues |
A little birdie tells me that Swansea don’t see him returning to play 1st team football and need money for January transfer targets, so any move would be a purchase and not a loan. Valuation sits at £1.5 million to £2 million so he is well within our sights from a valuation perspective and there has definitely been “serious interest” from Ipswich.
Looks like this could be more realistic than previously thought on here. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 13:03 - Jan 4 with 4439 views | NthQldITFC |
| Whittaker Latest on 10:00 - Jan 4 by Metal_Hacker |
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You've probably got him on ignore. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 00:38 - Jan 7 with 3807 views | TalkingBlues |
Update - birdie doesn’t believe that he’s been recalled to do anything but be sold, doesn’t see a way that Whittaker breaks into the main side even if the owners were being serious about trying to integrate him (which he doesn’t think they are) certainly not in the same position he’s been playing at Plymouth and there would be big questions over how effective he would be in an alternative role, but obviously if he was stunning in training then views might change, keen to point out that Championship is quite a different animal to League 1 and manager has been as clear as possible that he isn’t interested in playing him, this is unsurprising given the manager sent him out on loan in the first place (having hardly played him in a game) and has his own targets in mind, also that they are close to play offs on points and January is not a time for gambles on players inexperienced at that level. Basically, it seems that the club are just in a phase of collating offers and trying to get as much for him as possible, doesn’t see a return to Plymouth at all, because the offers they’ve made already are well below valuation and Swans don’t want to loan him again anyway. ITFC are most still definitely “actively” (what he would call active anyway) interested as are a couple of other clubs (presently unidentified) but they don’t appear to have made any offers, only enquiries. Says the entire football world will know what’s happening by 14th of the month anyway, cos that’s next League game and if he plays a part, he’ll be caught by the 2 club rule.
Just blurting it out, so apologies if difficult to read in one lump. | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 10:12 - Jan 7 with 3244 views | dannar |
| Whittaker Latest on 00:38 - Jan 7 by TalkingBlues |
Update - birdie doesn’t believe that he’s been recalled to do anything but be sold, doesn’t see a way that Whittaker breaks into the main side even if the owners were being serious about trying to integrate him (which he doesn’t think they are) certainly not in the same position he’s been playing at Plymouth and there would be big questions over how effective he would be in an alternative role, but obviously if he was stunning in training then views might change, keen to point out that Championship is quite a different animal to League 1 and manager has been as clear as possible that he isn’t interested in playing him, this is unsurprising given the manager sent him out on loan in the first place (having hardly played him in a game) and has his own targets in mind, also that they are close to play offs on points and January is not a time for gambles on players inexperienced at that level. Basically, it seems that the club are just in a phase of collating offers and trying to get as much for him as possible, doesn’t see a return to Plymouth at all, because the offers they’ve made already are well below valuation and Swans don’t want to loan him again anyway. ITFC are most still definitely “actively” (what he would call active anyway) interested as are a couple of other clubs (presently unidentified) but they don’t appear to have made any offers, only enquiries. Says the entire football world will know what’s happening by 14th of the month anyway, cos that’s next League game and if he plays a part, he’ll be caught by the 2 club rule.
Just blurting it out, so apologies if difficult to read in one lump. |
What has your little birdie told you that is not in all the media ?
I can tell you he won’t accept any offer from Ipswich. He will stay and fight at Swansea. Then he will join us in January, Or, If a championship club offers in this window - then that would be a different story - but no offers yet. |  | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 10:29 - Jan 7 with 3142 views | bluejacko |
| Whittaker Latest on 10:12 - Jan 7 by dannar |
What has your little birdie told you that is not in all the media ?
I can tell you he won’t accept any offer from Ipswich. He will stay and fight at Swansea. Then he will join us in January, Or, If a championship club offers in this window - then that would be a different story - but no offers yet. |
Well you told us he was not leaving in the first place didn’t you! As I told you before only the club CEOs etc truly know what’s going on.FWIW I also don’t believe he will come here but young players throwing a strop usually doesn’t end well for them. [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 10:52]
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| Whittaker Latest on 10:29 - Jan 7 with 3144 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Whittaker Latest on 10:12 - Jan 7 by dannar |
What has your little birdie told you that is not in all the media ?
I can tell you he won’t accept any offer from Ipswich. He will stay and fight at Swansea. Then he will join us in January, Or, If a championship club offers in this window - then that would be a different story - but no offers yet. |
Pretty sure, if he signs for Town, not convinced he will, it wouldn’t be until after 14th. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 10:38 - Jan 7 with 3049 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Whittaker Latest on 10:12 - Jan 7 by dannar |
What has your little birdie told you that is not in all the media ?
I can tell you he won’t accept any offer from Ipswich. He will stay and fight at Swansea. Then he will join us in January, Or, If a championship club offers in this window - then that would be a different story - but no offers yet. |
Grow up. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 10:45 - Jan 7 with 2973 views | chicoazul |
Lads there is no way we are getting the 3 many say we are after all in. Phil says Hirst is all but done and Broadhead seems very likely.
Now fwiw I would like Whittaker much more than the other 2 and I’d like Will Keane more than any of them. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 10:53 - Jan 7 with 2891 views | TalkingBlues |
| Whittaker Latest on 10:12 - Jan 7 by dannar |
What has your little birdie told you that is not in all the media ?
I can tell you he won’t accept any offer from Ipswich. He will stay and fight at Swansea. Then he will join us in January, Or, If a championship club offers in this window - then that would be a different story - but no offers yet. |
Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just passing on what I’ve discussed. To be fair, he did tell me that Whittaker was being recalled to be sold before there was any media attention to the fact and also informed me that he had definitely already been recalled the day before it officially happened, when most people were saying it wouldn’t happen. I think at this stage it would be difficult for him to say anything that wasn’t being aired everywhere, because there’s loads of reports detailing every plausible outcome now. I think the most interesting bit for me was the multitude of articles released stating that we had no interest, but he says that has never been the case and we are most definitely actively pursuing Whittaker, though I have no info from an ITFC perspective, Phil probably knows a thing or two from that side and I get the impression he knows we are still involved. | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 10:59 - Jan 7 with 2793 views | itfcjoe |
| Whittaker Latest on 10:53 - Jan 7 by TalkingBlues |
Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just passing on what I’ve discussed. To be fair, he did tell me that Whittaker was being recalled to be sold before there was any media attention to the fact and also informed me that he had definitely already been recalled the day before it officially happened, when most people were saying it wouldn’t happen. I think at this stage it would be difficult for him to say anything that wasn’t being aired everywhere, because there’s loads of reports detailing every plausible outcome now. I think the most interesting bit for me was the multitude of articles released stating that we had no interest, but he says that has never been the case and we are most definitely actively pursuing Whittaker, though I have no info from an ITFC perspective, Phil probably knows a thing or two from that side and I get the impression he knows we are still involved. |
From what I gather MW doesn’t want to join us atm, but over the window as his options narrow then it may be able to happen and if it does we will be waiting to strike - whatever other business is done he’d be seen as a cherry on top to it and part of any long term plan if it can happen |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 11:11 - Jan 7 with 2696 views | TalkingBlues |
| Whittaker Latest on 10:59 - Jan 7 by itfcjoe |
From what I gather MW doesn’t want to join us atm, but over the window as his options narrow then it may be able to happen and if it does we will be waiting to strike - whatever other business is done he’d be seen as a cherry on top to it and part of any long term plan if it can happen |
That sounds about right to me (personal opinion). I don’t think Whits has been having a “chat” with his manager about getting into the Swansea team, but rather being reminded that he is a professional footballer and he needs to accept that what he is experiencing currently is part of the job description and moaning about his situation online doesn’t help his scenario. He’s clearly unsettled and annoyed, but as you rightly say, his options are extremely limited, he either “gets over it” and secures his future, or he languishes with the kids at Swansea, not getting any minutes. They want him sold to get funds at the end of the day and he just needs to face the reality of his situation. If and when he actually gets to have a chat with McK/Ashton, I think he’ll much happier about his plight and what the future could/would look like for him at Ipswich. | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 11:41 - Jan 7 with 2514 views | dannar |
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| Whittaker Latest on 11:47 - Jan 7 with 2459 views | dannar |
| Whittaker Latest on 10:29 - Jan 7 by bluejacko |
Well you told us he was not leaving in the first place didn’t you! As I told you before only the club CEOs etc truly know what’s going on.FWIW I also don’t believe he will come here but young players throwing a strop usually doesn’t end well for them. [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 10:52]
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Correct, but that was because he was told he can stay and then the Swansea ownership over-rules the football mgt. it is not only CEOs etc who “truly believe”. What nonsense!
You’ll see in good time - he won’t go to PR. | | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 11:48 - Jan 7 with 2445 views | dannar |
| Whittaker Latest on 10:59 - Jan 7 by itfcjoe |
From what I gather MW doesn’t want to join us atm, but over the window as his options narrow then it may be able to happen and if it does we will be waiting to strike - whatever other business is done he’d be seen as a cherry on top to it and part of any long term plan if it can happen |
He doesn’t want to join you full stop!
He’ll be back with us in January. | | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 11:48 - Jan 7 with 2442 views | jayessess |
| Whittaker Latest on 11:11 - Jan 7 by TalkingBlues |
That sounds about right to me (personal opinion). I don’t think Whits has been having a “chat” with his manager about getting into the Swansea team, but rather being reminded that he is a professional footballer and he needs to accept that what he is experiencing currently is part of the job description and moaning about his situation online doesn’t help his scenario. He’s clearly unsettled and annoyed, but as you rightly say, his options are extremely limited, he either “gets over it” and secures his future, or he languishes with the kids at Swansea, not getting any minutes. They want him sold to get funds at the end of the day and he just needs to face the reality of his situation. If and when he actually gets to have a chat with McK/Ashton, I think he’ll much happier about his plight and what the future could/would look like for him at Ipswich. |
Tyreece Simpson made a similar fuss when we recalled him from Swindon, but when it came down to it he ultimately wanted a move to the biggest club that would have him. I'm sure it'll be similar for Whittaker. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 12:07 - Jan 7 with 2266 views | J2BLUE |
| Whittaker Latest on 11:48 - Jan 7 by dannar |
He doesn’t want to join you full stop!
He’ll be back with us in January. |
I think the first part is probably true if he thinks there is a chance to go back to Plymouth.
If that option is completely dead and he's given the option of playing for Swansea reserves or joining us he will almost certainly join us.
Just like if his two options came down to joining us or joining a decent Championship club he would likely choose the Championship club.
He has a career to build and his stock is higher now than it would be after 6 months in Swansea reserves. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 12:07 - Jan 7 with 2258 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Whittaker Latest on 11:48 - Jan 7 by dannar |
He doesn’t want to join you full stop!
He’ll be back with us in January. |
Hahaha, I didn't realize you were a Plymouth fan crying in here at first. How tragic. |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 12:10 - Jan 7 with 2227 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Whittaker Latest on 11:48 - Jan 7 by dannar |
He doesn’t want to join you full stop!
He’ll be back with us in January. |
Grow up, again. | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 12:12 - Jan 7 with 2191 views | Horsham |
| Whittaker Latest on 11:48 - Jan 7 by dannar |
He doesn’t want to join you full stop!
He’ll be back with us in January. |
Oh ok. So he’s a footballer of high principles and he’ll not worry about the money because he’s got enough already…face it if we choose we can blow you out of the water financially. It’s not arrogance, it’s just the truth. We’ve suffered the same many times over with bigger and better resourced clubs taking our players. We has Daryl Murphy fresh off scoring 25 goals in the championship and Newcastle took him and paid at least double what we could. It happens.
Or maybe he hates us I don’t know, or Mark Ashton ran over his dog. I think your confidence is naive and misplaced but equally I don’t think we’ll get him…the only reason he won’t want to join us is because he thinks he can do bigger and better and with all due respect to Plymouth (sorry Argyle) that isn’t them despite the league position. |  | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 12:14 - Jan 7 with 2170 views | TalkingBlues |
| Whittaker Latest on 11:48 - Jan 7 by dannar |
He doesn’t want to join you full stop!
He’ll be back with us in January. |
To be Fair, you insisted he wasn't being recalled, but he was and now you reckon he'll be back at your place in January, despite the fact you've already offered your best transfer fee to sign him and upped % of wages for continuing a loan, both of which were rejected by Swansea, so your record isn't exactly stellar is it? My personal opinion, he won't be going back to your place, you need to move on.
We know that the manager doesn't like him and he's pi**ed the club off with his comments on social media (and probably put off a couple of potential suitors in the process) so his options are terribly limited now. | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 12:19 - Jan 7 with 2084 views | Horsham |
| Whittaker Latest on 12:14 - Jan 7 by TalkingBlues |
To be Fair, you insisted he wasn't being recalled, but he was and now you reckon he'll be back at your place in January, despite the fact you've already offered your best transfer fee to sign him and upped % of wages for continuing a loan, both of which were rejected by Swansea, so your record isn't exactly stellar is it? My personal opinion, he won't be going back to your place, you need to move on.
We know that the manager doesn't like him and he's pi**ed the club off with his comments on social media (and probably put off a couple of potential suitors in the process) so his options are terribly limited now. |
Has a reputation for not having the best attitude too from his Derby days. I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re not that interested tbh. | | | |
| Whittaker Latest on 12:19 - Jan 7 with 2079 views | J2BLUE |
| Whittaker Latest on 12:12 - Jan 7 by Horsham |
Oh ok. So he’s a footballer of high principles and he’ll not worry about the money because he’s got enough already…face it if we choose we can blow you out of the water financially. It’s not arrogance, it’s just the truth. We’ve suffered the same many times over with bigger and better resourced clubs taking our players. We has Daryl Murphy fresh off scoring 25 goals in the championship and Newcastle took him and paid at least double what we could. It happens.
Or maybe he hates us I don’t know, or Mark Ashton ran over his dog. I think your confidence is naive and misplaced but equally I don’t think we’ll get him…the only reason he won’t want to join us is because he thinks he can do bigger and better and with all due respect to Plymouth (sorry Argyle) that isn’t them despite the league position. |
I do think that post is a bit arrogant.
Why would he not want to return to Plymouth? He's loving it there, they love him and they are in pole position to go up where they would probably buy him. There's nothing wrong with admitting that.
I completely agree he might not get the option but seems fair enough to think that would be his preference. | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 12:32 - Jan 7 with 1955 views | Big_Jase |
| Whittaker Latest on 11:47 - Jan 7 by dannar |
Correct, but that was because he was told he can stay and then the Swansea ownership over-rules the football mgt. it is not only CEOs etc who “truly believe”. What nonsense!
You’ll see in good time - he won’t go to PR. |
I don’t care where he goes ultimately, be nice to see him at Town but looks like we also have other targets. But don’t you think Plymouth have shot themselves in the foot a bit if they think they can bring him back? They know have 5 loanees and I’d be surprised if the figures quoted for a permanent deal, £1.5 - £2m is something Plymouth would consider. Which loanee would you sacrifice from the match day squad for him? |  |
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| Whittaker Latest on 12:36 - Jan 7 with 1926 views | Horsham |
| Whittaker Latest on 12:19 - Jan 7 by J2BLUE |
I do think that post is a bit arrogant.
Why would he not want to return to Plymouth? He's loving it there, they love him and they are in pole position to go up where they would probably buy him. There's nothing wrong with admitting that.
I completely agree he might not get the option but seems fair enough to think that would be his preference. |
I don’t think it’s any more arrogant than to suggest that no matter what we do or offer he won’t sign for us because he loves it at Plymouth so much which seems to be Mr Janner’s assertion !
Frankly I don’t think we’re daft enough to offer stupid money but we probably could and if we (or anyone else) did I think he’d forget Plymouth in a heartbeat. He’s been there 6 months! He’s not exactly Mick Stockwell.
Edit FWIW I wish the world wasn’t like that! [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 12:40]
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| Whittaker Latest on 12:37 - Jan 7 with 1907 views | pointofblue |
| Whittaker Latest on 12:19 - Jan 7 by J2BLUE |
I do think that post is a bit arrogant.
Why would he not want to return to Plymouth? He's loving it there, they love him and they are in pole position to go up where they would probably buy him. There's nothing wrong with admitting that.
I completely agree he might not get the option but seems fair enough to think that would be his preference. |
I think it will depend on who wins the seemingly developing club v player battle. If it’s the club he won’t return to Plymouth, unless they make a much improved offer. If it’s player he could well return later in the month. | |
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| Whittaker Latest on 12:42 - Jan 7 with 1830 views | bluejacko |
| Whittaker Latest on 11:47 - Jan 7 by dannar |
Correct, but that was because he was told he can stay and then the Swansea ownership over-rules the football mgt. it is not only CEOs etc who “truly believe”. What nonsense!
You’ll see in good time - he won’t go to PR. |
I said I don’t believe he will come here🙄 only for some obscure reason he believes we were behind his recall (IMO) you can’t come on here and make statements like you have with NO info from inside any of the clubs involved.after all as been pointed out you have been wrong before! | | | |
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