| WTF has happened to this Country? 12:35 - Jan 27 with 13461 views | TalkingBlues |
I can't believe how poor just about everything is in the UK, I have honestly never felt so depressed about living and working in this Country, I now truly appreciate why people are so keen to move abroad.
Every company you deal with is out to screw you over and you need to be a Consumer Contracts expert just to get what you're entitled to, as the standard line now appears to be to mis-sell and misinform customers. Service sector? My God, it's non existent and couriers, WTAF is going on there!?!?! I am struggling to continue to operate a business due to the sheer quantity of failed collections/deliveries from a variety of couriers, blue chip (lol) and other, leading to customer cancellations and refunds. They all say the same thing "can't get drivers due to Brexit" these appear to be some of the unappreciated consequences for small businesses such as mine, we have the same issue trying to find Lorry Drivers, massive shortage and a huge hike in wages as a result of the demand also crippling profits.
I've not even mentioned the strikes of just about every industry in the UK, poor pay, poor living conditions, huge wealth inequality etc etc etc. For the first time in my life, I truly feel that the UK has "had it" it's finished, we have been well and truly flushed down the sh1tter and I just don't know how we are going to get out of a mess this big, it's scary, I am genuinely mortified at what lies ahead for my kids.
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:39 - Jan 27 with 2007 views | HARRY10 |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:27 - Jan 27 by ElephantintheRoom |
You need to listen to Jeremy Hunt’s speech this morning. Everything is utterly wonderful |
Yes optimism is what we need. Blind unswerving optimism.
That will defeat those anti growth and declinists, whoever they are. Probably wokeys if the truth is but known
Nothing to do with heaping piles of costs, regulation and delay upon exporters
Nothing to do with blocking UK companies from hiring the workers they need either
To paraphrase Roosevelt " We have nothing to fear, but reality ". |  | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:08 - Jan 27 with 1970 views | Illinoisblue |
All that buzz and optimism at the 2012 Olympics, what happened?
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:11 - Jan 27 with 1946 views | Buhrer |
How have we allowed this? Have you read 1984?
A spiritually coarsened, mentally and physically empoverished populace are controlled through media, teaching and police services, in order they spout meaningless rhetoric about English Capitalism as the ultimate goal, making the rich richer while their standards of living crumble. |  | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:16 - Jan 27 with 1933 views | Lord_Lucan |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:35 - Jan 27 by clive_baker |
Europe's certainly in a sticky spot, while the talk is of the war between Russia and Ukraine it's arguably Europe that's at war. That's certainly the way a lot of the US sees it and the Capital markets right now. There's a lot of negative sentiment to Europe, a lack of investment, hyperinflation, and we're more exposed to the volatile fuel costs. The wider macroeconomic outlook is pretty bleak. I think a lot of Europe feels the same pain, but probably more so here as we've decided to cut our arm off by leaving the EU and we've been governed by a party of self serving charlatans for the past 12 years.
Public services in this country are massively underfunded and underpaid, but the public purse is empty. |
There are regular riots at present in Germany and France - if people think it is just UK in a pickle they need to broaden their news outlets. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:18 - Jan 27 with 1927 views | Lord_Lucan |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:08 - Jan 27 by Illinoisblue |
All that buzz and optimism at the 2012 Olympics, what happened?
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NY Times!
For some reason NY Times has a massive anti British hard on and has done for some time. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:31 - Jan 27 with 1906 views | MaySixth |
Anyone who voted for Brexit is guilty. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:32 - Jan 27 with 1899 views | Herbivore |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:18 - Jan 27 by Lord_Lucan |
NY Times!
For some reason NY Times has a massive anti British hard on and has done for some time. |
The NY Times is quoting from economic research when talking about UK living standards, it's not just giving an opinion. I'm not sure calling out what a sh!t show the UK has become is necessarily anti-British, anymore than UK media calling out Trump was anti-American. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:35 - Jan 27 with 1883 views | Lord_Lucan |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:32 - Jan 27 by Herbivore |
The NY Times is quoting from economic research when talking about UK living standards, it's not just giving an opinion. I'm not sure calling out what a sh!t show the UK has become is necessarily anti-British, anymore than UK media calling out Trump was anti-American. |
I can't read it as I'm not a paid subscriber - link me to the report or copy and paste the article.
Oh and by the way - if you search hard enough you can find any economic research you like to agree with what you want to think. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:43 - Jan 27 with 1866 views | blueasfook |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:31 - Jan 27 by MaySixth |
Anyone who voted for Brexit is guilty. |
Who knew that Brexit would cause Covid, War in Ukraine, increased cost of living, soaring fuel costs and high inflation throughout the world.
God, i feel terrible. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:50 - Jan 27 with 1846 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
People seem to have a very black or white view of the world. If you follow economics, or geopolitics to any degree you’ll know that many of the issues I the UK are happening across the Western world.
BUT the issues we have are compounded by BREXIT and this the impact is worse. No mainstream politician has the guts to push for rejoining the Single Market. We should in fact be in a position at the centre of the SM pushing for reform and liberalisation, the growth projections for the EU are dismal also. | | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:50 - Jan 27 with 1850 views | SomethingBlue |
Many of the things listed knowledgeably and eloquently by those in the thread already.
I do think as well that we have a big problem around people engaging properly, critically, with *anything* in this country. Which is of course very convenient for a government. I'm talking very generally indeed but compared with other countries I find our population to be pretty undiscerning, uncritical, fattened, complacent. Easily fed propaganda by a media whose work is, in some quarters, borderline evil. Now it's fairly chicken/egg as to where the root of it lies, but it's a problem. Bad things are easily waved through.
Education plays a big part and I think political education in this country is really poor, as is general work around social issues. In my work I speak to a lot of guys from around Europe aged on average between, let's say, 18-30. Again a generalisation but the Brits/English tend to lag waaaaay behind in terms of the broader topics they (a) can engage with and (b) give a sh6t about at all. [Post edited 27 Jan 2023 15:53]
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:56 - Jan 27 with 1815 views | bluelagos |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:43 - Jan 27 by blueasfook |
Who knew that Brexit would cause Covid, War in Ukraine, increased cost of living, soaring fuel costs and high inflation throughout the world.
God, i feel terrible. |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:59 - Jan 27 with 1802 views | Buhrer |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:43 - Jan 27 by blueasfook |
Who knew that Brexit would cause Covid, War in Ukraine, increased cost of living, soaring fuel costs and high inflation throughout the world.
God, i feel terrible. |
The same goons fooked up most of that list also though. Covid? They're innit to their nuts. Follow the Money because everything's facked now, except billionaires..
Cost benefit analysis: brexit is a total load of wa nk where the populace paid billions to be worse off, but make a lot more rich people richer. | | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:02 - Jan 27 with 1798 views | blueasfook |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:56 - Jan 27 by bluelagos |
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Oh that evil Brexit again. Actually, it is well known car manufacturing was hit globally by a semi-conductor shortage (well publicised in the news), also the drying up of the export market to Russia because of economic sanctions in the wake of the Ukraine. Which politically biased outlet did i get this info from?
None other than Auto Express!
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/105846/uk-car-production-fell-98-2022 | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:07 - Jan 27 with 1778 views | Herbivore |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:35 - Jan 27 by Lord_Lucan |
I can't read it as I'm not a paid subscriber - link me to the report or copy and paste the article.
Oh and by the way - if you search hard enough you can find any economic research you like to agree with what you want to think. |
The only other link I can find is the FT, which is also paywalled, but also could not reasonably be described as anti-British. I know you like to view things through red, white, and blue tinted specs but the country really is an absolute mess. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:18 - Jan 27 with 1763 views | bluelagos |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:02 - Jan 27 by blueasfook |
Oh that evil Brexit again. Actually, it is well known car manufacturing was hit globally by a semi-conductor shortage (well publicised in the news), also the drying up of the export market to Russia because of economic sanctions in the wake of the Ukraine. Which politically biased outlet did i get this info from?
None other than Auto Express!
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/105846/uk-car-production-fell-98-2022 |
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/opinion/357283/uk-car-production-has-been-brutally
"So, that’s a plummet of precisely 50 per cent in precisely five years. Hmmm!
Honestly, if we’re blaming only Covid and chip-related issues for this suspicious slump, we’re truly kidding ourselves... it’s almost as if mass car production in the UK has been sabotaged since 2016. But how? By whom? And why?" | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:24 - Jan 27 with 1737 views | Herbivore |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:18 - Jan 27 by bluelagos |
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/opinion/357283/uk-car-production-has-been-brutally
"So, that’s a plummet of precisely 50 per cent in precisely five years. Hmmm!
Honestly, if we’re blaming only Covid and chip-related issues for this suspicious slump, we’re truly kidding ourselves... it’s almost as if mass car production in the UK has been sabotaged since 2016. But how? By whom? And why?" |
Oh! Burn! | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:30 - Jan 27 with 1722 views | Illinoisblue |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:18 - Jan 27 by Lord_Lucan |
NY Times!
For some reason NY Times has a massive anti British hard on and has done for some time. |
How would you know that if you’re not a subscriber? 😄 | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:30 - Jan 27 with 1723 views | Pinewoodblue |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:19 - Jan 27 by Herbivore |
Nobody is claiming that, but burying your head in the sand and thinking Brexit is a solution rather than a problem isn't going to get us very far either. |
Regardless of our views on Brexit it is up to us all to make the most of the hand we have been dealt and that applies to anyone running a business as much as the rest of us..
Anyone who continually blames Brexit is part of the problem. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:34 - Jan 27 with 1687 views | Pinewoodblue |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:18 - Jan 27 by Lord_Lucan |
NY Times!
For some reason NY Times has a massive anti British hard on and has done for some time. |
Distraction from the problems facing America, really they are not United anymore . Worse still they are able to export their problems to other Countries. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:37 - Jan 27 with 1683 views | bluelagos |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:30 - Jan 27 by Pinewoodblue |
Regardless of our views on Brexit it is up to us all to make the most of the hand we have been dealt and that applies to anyone running a business as much as the rest of us..
Anyone who continually blames Brexit is part of the problem. |
So it's the people who highlight the ongoing negative impacts of leaving the Single Union who are the problem rather than those who campaigned and/or voted for it?
Shove that right up yer backside Pinewood. Is only by recognising what an utter sh1tshower it is proving can we at some point look to reverse some of the damage by facilitating an EU deal that doesn't involve ridiculous paperwork and hopefully once again encourage more investment.
Blaming remainers for the sh1t that has followed from Brexit is utterly bizarre. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:39 - Jan 27 with 1676 views | Illinoisblue |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:50 - Jan 27 by SomethingBlue |
Many of the things listed knowledgeably and eloquently by those in the thread already.
I do think as well that we have a big problem around people engaging properly, critically, with *anything* in this country. Which is of course very convenient for a government. I'm talking very generally indeed but compared with other countries I find our population to be pretty undiscerning, uncritical, fattened, complacent. Easily fed propaganda by a media whose work is, in some quarters, borderline evil. Now it's fairly chicken/egg as to where the root of it lies, but it's a problem. Bad things are easily waved through.
Education plays a big part and I think political education in this country is really poor, as is general work around social issues. In my work I speak to a lot of guys from around Europe aged on average between, let's say, 18-30. Again a generalisation but the Brits/English tend to lag waaaaay behind in terms of the broader topics they (a) can engage with and (b) give a sh6t about at all. [Post edited 27 Jan 2023 15:53]
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It says a lot about the rancid impotence of large parts of the UK media that the best investigative journalism of the last few weeks has been spearheaded by a random tax bloke on Twitter and, er, Carol Vorderman. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:41 - Jan 27 with 1653 views | NthQldITFC |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:29 - Jan 27 by Slimitfc91 |
Population of just over 68 million, on a land mass half the size of countries like France or Spain, we are full up |
I realise there might be more behind the downvotes than face value, but on face value I agree with this.
Of course you could argue that we're not full up because there are still places for people to build more houses and roads and supermarkets and factories and out of town shopping experiences and car parks and soft-play centres and Amazon warehouses and cemeteries for dead cyclists and pedestrians and ... breathes... but where the fk are you going to stop? |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:45 - Jan 27 with 1624 views | DanTheMan |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:37 - Jan 27 by bluelagos |
So it's the people who highlight the ongoing negative impacts of leaving the Single Union who are the problem rather than those who campaigned and/or voted for it?
Shove that right up yer backside Pinewood. Is only by recognising what an utter sh1tshower it is proving can we at some point look to reverse some of the damage by facilitating an EU deal that doesn't involve ridiculous paperwork and hopefully once again encourage more investment.
Blaming remainers for the sh1t that has followed from Brexit is utterly bizarre. |
It's this bizarre thing people have started to believe that you're absolutely not allowed to criticise something as stupid because otherwise, you hate democracy or something.
Brexit was a wrong decision and almost nothing good has come of it. They've been talking about the benefits since it happened and almost nothing has come to fruition. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:49 - Jan 27 with 1598 views | Pinewoodblue |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:37 - Jan 27 by bluelagos |
So it's the people who highlight the ongoing negative impacts of leaving the Single Union who are the problem rather than those who campaigned and/or voted for it?
Shove that right up yer backside Pinewood. Is only by recognising what an utter sh1tshower it is proving can we at some point look to reverse some of the damage by facilitating an EU deal that doesn't involve ridiculous paperwork and hopefully once again encourage more investment.
Blaming remainers for the sh1t that has followed from Brexit is utterly bizarre. |
Going forward it matters not if an individual voted for Brexit, or to remain.
We are lumbered with the consequences of the Brexit vote. Anyone who isn’t prepared to move on and look for ways to make the most of it is part of the problem we now face. I am confident Labour leadership are looking ahead, although many of their supporters seem incapable of doing so.
Continually looking back and blaming others isn’t going to help elect a different government come the next election. | |
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