| WTF has happened to this Country? 12:35 - Jan 27 with 13460 views | TalkingBlues |
I can't believe how poor just about everything is in the UK, I have honestly never felt so depressed about living and working in this Country, I now truly appreciate why people are so keen to move abroad.
Every company you deal with is out to screw you over and you need to be a Consumer Contracts expert just to get what you're entitled to, as the standard line now appears to be to mis-sell and misinform customers. Service sector? My God, it's non existent and couriers, WTAF is going on there!?!?! I am struggling to continue to operate a business due to the sheer quantity of failed collections/deliveries from a variety of couriers, blue chip (lol) and other, leading to customer cancellations and refunds. They all say the same thing "can't get drivers due to Brexit" these appear to be some of the unappreciated consequences for small businesses such as mine, we have the same issue trying to find Lorry Drivers, massive shortage and a huge hike in wages as a result of the demand also crippling profits.
I've not even mentioned the strikes of just about every industry in the UK, poor pay, poor living conditions, huge wealth inequality etc etc etc. For the first time in my life, I truly feel that the UK has "had it" it's finished, we have been well and truly flushed down the sh1tter and I just don't know how we are going to get out of a mess this big, it's scary, I am genuinely mortified at what lies ahead for my kids.
How the hell have we allowed all this to happen? |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:49 - Jan 27 with 1724 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:19 - Jan 27 by Herbivore |
Nobody is claiming that, but burying your head in the sand and thinking Brexit is a solution rather than a problem isn't going to get us very far either. |
The post I replied to very much infers that claim. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:53 - Jan 27 with 1696 views | bluelagos |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:45 - Jan 27 by DanTheMan |
It's this bizarre thing people have started to believe that you're absolutely not allowed to criticise something as stupid because otherwise, you hate democracy or something.
Brexit was a wrong decision and almost nothing good has come of it. They've been talking about the benefits since it happened and almost nothing has come to fruition. |
Indeed. From the moment we have the vote we've had people telling us to "respect democracy" whilst they themselves decided to define what Brexit meant with no regard to the 48% who voted remain and/or the many who voted leave believing that we would remain in the SM (As Farage and others had said on occasions would happen)
But the far right undermined May's attempts at a soft brexit and we get saddled with a deal that basically means barriers to trade with the EU and so investment drops - like 16% pa on the back of it (Govt figures)
Investment is what sustains our businesses and our jobs - and it is now 1/6 less than it would have been. But apparently anyone who points this out - we are the problem!
Lots of people were misled over Brexit - I get that. But to point the finger at remainers is a p*ss take of the highest order. If you voted for this shower it's on you, simples. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:03 - Jan 27 with 1660 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:37 - Jan 27 by bluelagos |
So it's the people who highlight the ongoing negative impacts of leaving the Single Union who are the problem rather than those who campaigned and/or voted for it?
Shove that right up yer backside Pinewood. Is only by recognising what an utter sh1tshower it is proving can we at some point look to reverse some of the damage by facilitating an EU deal that doesn't involve ridiculous paperwork and hopefully once again encourage more investment.
Blaming remainers for the sh1t that has followed from Brexit is utterly bizarre. |
In what way does more of the same that has got us into this mess.....namely more stuff, more growth.....address the fundamental issues that face us all as a society. The EU is very much at the heart of the beast that has encouraged globalism, the off shoring of heavy industry, reliance on fragile just in time manufacturing and the extraction of wealth for the few.
The Emperor has no clothes. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:04 - Jan 27 with 1658 views | GeoffSentence |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 15:35 - Jan 27 by Lord_Lucan |
I can't read it as I'm not a paid subscriber - link me to the report or copy and paste the article.
Oh and by the way - if you search hard enough you can find any economic research you like to agree with what you want to think. |
Top Tip:
If you have Firefox open the page in reader mode then refresh it and the content will be available. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:10 - Jan 27 with 1646 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:45 - Jan 27 by DanTheMan |
It's this bizarre thing people have started to believe that you're absolutely not allowed to criticise something as stupid because otherwise, you hate democracy or something.
Brexit was a wrong decision and almost nothing good has come of it. They've been talking about the benefits since it happened and almost nothing has come to fruition. |
However the metrics by which you are all framing the argument whether for or against Brexit are based on a fundamentally flawed economic and social construct. You're arguing about what your preferred shade of sh1t is imho. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:15 - Jan 27 with 1641 views | bluelagos |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:03 - Jan 27 by BanksterDebtSlave |
In what way does more of the same that has got us into this mess.....namely more stuff, more growth.....address the fundamental issues that face us all as a society. The EU is very much at the heart of the beast that has encouraged globalism, the off shoring of heavy industry, reliance on fragile just in time manufacturing and the extraction of wealth for the few.
The Emperor has no clothes. |
In terms of a greener future, better environmental standards, better labour standards, better consumer protection - I think we all know that being in the EU is preferable than the current proposed bonfire of EU regulations.
EU is far from perfect, but you can't influence/reform a club from the outside. We now have no/little influence on the EU going forward with all the negatives impacting our trade/businesses.
If you think that is a better position to be in I'd respectfully disagree. Pragmatic view of the world rather than an idealistic one maybe, but one that recognises the world we live in. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:22 - Jan 27 with 1618 views | Herbivore |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:30 - Jan 27 by Pinewoodblue |
Regardless of our views on Brexit it is up to us all to make the most of the hand we have been dealt and that applies to anyone running a business as much as the rest of us..
Anyone who continually blames Brexit is part of the problem. |
Yeah, if only we all believed harder, unicorns might exist. It's definitely the fault of the unbelievers rather than the fantasists. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:24 - Jan 27 with 1609 views | Lord_Lucan |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:07 - Jan 27 by Herbivore |
The only other link I can find is the FT, which is also paywalled, but also could not reasonably be described as anti-British. I know you like to view things through red, white, and blue tinted specs but the country really is an absolute mess. |
Yeah I know it is, I said that on page 1 |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:25 - Jan 27 with 1609 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:15 - Jan 27 by bluelagos |
In terms of a greener future, better environmental standards, better labour standards, better consumer protection - I think we all know that being in the EU is preferable than the current proposed bonfire of EU regulations.
EU is far from perfect, but you can't influence/reform a club from the outside. We now have no/little influence on the EU going forward with all the negatives impacting our trade/businesses.
If you think that is a better position to be in I'd respectfully disagree. Pragmatic view of the world rather than an idealistic one maybe, but one that recognises the world we live in. |
I believe it is beyond meaningful reform and a fundamental reset is required but respect your position. Pragmatism has never come naturally in my life choices especially in my relative youth. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:29 - Jan 27 with 1601 views | bluelagos |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:22 - Jan 27 by Herbivore |
Yeah, if only we all believed harder, unicorns might exist. It's definitely the fault of the unbelievers rather than the fantasists. |
These fantasists are clueless.
We'll hold all the cards.
The German car industry will tell Merkel who'll tell the EU...
£350m a week for the NHS
Never be an easier trade deal
New trade deal with America
The EU will collapse
And all the while, they believed and were shown to be utterly fcking clueless about the realities of Brexit.
But we have to believe more, we are the problem. Nah, GTF and shove it up yer arse.
Might have guessed I've had a proper sh1t week and am not in the mood for people talking bollox - logging off you'll be glad to hear! | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:30 - Jan 27 with 1598 views | Lord_Lucan |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:30 - Jan 27 by Illinoisblue |
How would you know that if you’re not a subscriber? 😄 |
That's actually a fair question, Andrew Neil often tweets the articles. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:38 - Jan 27 with 1585 views | NthQldITFC |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:03 - Jan 27 by BanksterDebtSlave |
In what way does more of the same that has got us into this mess.....namely more stuff, more growth.....address the fundamental issues that face us all as a society. The EU is very much at the heart of the beast that has encouraged globalism, the off shoring of heavy industry, reliance on fragile just in time manufacturing and the extraction of wealth for the few.
The Emperor has no clothes. |
...and they wrap it all up in carbon trading ballocks too, and try to pretend they're making real changes. Bullsh!t.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/18/revealed-forest-carbon-offse |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 17:51 - Jan 27 with 1556 views | Trequartista |
Ipswich have been floundering in mid-table in the 3rd Division for the last three years, that doesn't mean I give up and support someone else. The UK is my home, so my love for it is unconditional. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 18:12 - Jan 27 with 1509 views | Slimitfc91 |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 16:41 - Jan 27 by NthQldITFC |
I realise there might be more behind the downvotes than face value, but on face value I agree with this.
Of course you could argue that we're not full up because there are still places for people to build more houses and roads and supermarkets and factories and out of town shopping experiences and car parks and soft-play centres and Amazon warehouses and cemeteries for dead cyclists and pedestrians and ... breathes... but where the fk are you going to stop? |
More and more houses being built meaning the fields are now being covered in concrete and tarmac, the result of this more flooding after a normal amount of rainfall, resulting in mass hysteria blaming the floods on climate crisis.
Excess deaths are going through the roof, we were all told not to go to hospital to protect the nhs, the result of this nonsense is that many serious illnesses were not diagnosed in time and now thousands are dying because of this. |  | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 18:15 - Jan 27 with 1494 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Hah, yes, I think I might have posted that at the time. We are all being taken for fools and the evidence is that the string pullers are correct in their assumptions. Pretty fed up of hearing how 'green' the EU is too when essentially it has just off shored most of our filth and waste. [Post edited 27 Jan 2023 18:18]
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 18:27 - Jan 27 with 1476 views | WeWereZombies |
All I can say is that if you think Britain is bad you should try arriving in Buenos Aires heavily jet lagged... |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 18:29 - Jan 27 with 1470 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 18:27 - Jan 27 by WeWereZombies |
All I can say is that if you think Britain is bad you should try arriving in Buenos Aires heavily jet lagged... |
Suffer Zombers, suffer!! | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 18:36 - Jan 27 with 1459 views | WeWereZombies |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 18:29 - Jan 27 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Suffer Zombers, suffer!! |
I am Bankster, I am. It is down to 7°C here in Patagonia tonight. And this constant sunshine, nae normal... | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 18:38 - Jan 27 with 1457 views | noggin |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:20 - Jan 27 by homer_123 |
With ya Lucs.
I hate to see people run down this country - would be very interesting to see how people coped abroad. Even other so called westernised countries.
There's an assumption the grass is always greener and it isn't.
That said, I also agree, it is feeling very 70s at the moment and we certainly have got ourselves into a right mess, much our own doing. |
I can't speak for other countries and Norway is certainly no utopia, but it's way way better than Britain. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 18:39 - Jan 27 with 1453 views | noggin |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:34 - Jan 27 by thebooks |
Like the 70s, only without the high wages, free university education and functioning health service. |
And affordable housing. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 18:42 - Jan 27 with 1448 views | noggin |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:44 - Jan 27 by thebooks |
The public purse is not "empty".
One of the causes of our current malaise is this belief that services can **never** be afforded. It's nonsense. |
Exactly. War always seems to be affordable. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 18:57 - Jan 27 with 1422 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 18:36 - Jan 27 by WeWereZombies |
I am Bankster, I am. It is down to 7°C here in Patagonia tonight. And this constant sunshine, nae normal... |
I'm a little bit jealous! | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 19:50 - Jan 27 with 1348 views | DerryfromBury |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:42 - Jan 27 by Darth_Koont |
This is decades coming.
Rather than see the UK and the world for what they are, the vast majority of politicians, lobbyists and media outlets have been pushing narratives for their own and their paymasters selfish interests.
The result has been little attention paid to the underlying, structural issues in the UK. From dangerously low productivity, wage stagnation, cost and availability of housing, regional imbalances, massive wealth inequality including up to 5 million kids living in poverty, low investment in infrastructure, the importance of immigration and free trade, regional imbalances and so on and so on.
Instead we get the same neoliberal hogwash about growth providing the answer (even when it clearly didn’t and clearly can’t in an economic downturn). The media and politicians will of course blame (red v blue) or Covid, Putin or whatever. But we should be blaming them for being utterly crap at actually working for the country’s best interests.
It’s obvious we need wholescale political and possibly media reform or we’ll never escape this rut. Just sleepwalk to the next crisis largely of our own making while the status quo-defenders wring their hands and shaft millions of people even more. Or diverting attention with culture wars and othering of minorities who are already under the cosh for that nice early-30s Germany vibe.
And all this while we are lagging behind in addressing the REAL global challenges and opportunities ...
Happy Friday anyway! 😀 |
Your last paragraph says it all. Well Done. |  | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 20:28 - Jan 27 with 1299 views | Geomorph |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 12:52 - Jan 27 by Lord_Lucan |
I'm one of those stiff upper lip and get on with it boring bastards and I get instantly annoyed when I hear people running my great country down.....
.....but yes, it's all a bit sh1t isn't it. It's like the 70's revisited.
Everything is broken.
I can't really speak for other countries as I have no first hand experience however my good friend Lorenzo the Italian Stallion says it's the same there and another old friend has decided to emigrate from Germany to Canada because he reckons it's all broken there as well.
Things were sort of heading this way a few years back but Covid has really screwed the coffin lid down. The effects of Covid will linger for years and years |
When you starve ‘enemy’ local authorities of dosh for 13 years, running community services down to bare bones, then add insult to injury by making geographical distribution of funds some kind of X factor competition based on internal parliamentary lobbying.. you know the games up… we are completely fkd .. |  | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 20:40 - Jan 27 with 1279 views | jaykay |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:34 - Jan 27 by thebooks |
Like the 70s, only without the high wages, free university education and functioning health service. |
plus no food banks tripling of power prices a good chance of seeing a n.h.s dentist |  |
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