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This is section 4 of the Football (Offences) Act 1991.
"It is an offence for a person at a designated football match to go onto the playing area, or any area adjacent to the playing area to which spectators are not generally admitted, without lawful authority or lawful excuse (which shall be for him to prove)."
There is no lawful authority or excuse (which would cover, say, a fire), and this legislation was brought in for a reason.
And whilst there may be safety in numbers, those who lead the way could well be arrested and banned. And who is to say that the same might not happen to others? Indeed, I imagine the bizzies will be out in force.
To my mind the celebrations of the players on the pitch at Barnsley, and interaction with the fans, were magical, and I would rather the same on Saturday.
Also, for those of us in the upper parts of the stadium, access to the pitch is impossible, so if a pitch invasion happens, we will be forced to watch hundreds of fans on the pitch, when we would rather watch, and give our appreciation to, the players.
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Saying that, I won't mind just leaving for the pub as soon as fans are on the pitch :)
Fair enough. I guess the club would be annoyed if it took a hit like that. I just can't see the club banning fans after all the work that's gone into bringing the fans back since the americans came in. Make all the right noises, sure, but bans? Can't see it. If 10,000 people go on the pitch, you're not going to ban or arrest all of them. If a couple take it too far, then maybe those individuals.
I was thinking this morning, that I'm sure if hundreds go on, then everyone around me, will go on too.
But reading the comments of the fans in the upper tiers, who can only show their appreciation on a lap of honour and this, "Whether they had positive intentions or not is irrelevant in the eyes of the law - pyro and pitch incursions are illegal, you will be prosecuted and you will be banned by your club."
Plus my bad back has just nailed me to my seat.
Easy for bedsheet Rich to say, 'the lap will happen once they've cleared the pitch', but having been at tens of promotion parties in my time as a football photographer, I can recall instances when the lap was called off because fans wouldn't leave the pitch.
We haven't won promotion yet and there's a massive game coming up. Whatever innit.
I'm also getting irritated by this TT brigade, they seem to think they are some kind of mouthpiece for fans, one of them even got a good five minutes on RS to put themselves front and centre of our resurgence. And we haven't even resurged, yet. They're a delusional bunch for sure, and let's not forget their leader helped bring the Curse down on the club.
The club have been very clear. If you chose to disrespect them, I hope you get a lengthy ban.
Pitch invaders are simply selfish. It is not about you.
Jesus, when did we get such wet-wipe fans? We didn't have threads about pitch invasions back in the day, because we didn't have social media. No-one planned anything, it was just in the moment.
And your last comment makes no sense. It was never about any individual, it was just spontaneous joy. The fact that you want lengthy bans on long-suffering supporters finally having something to be joyful about says a lot about you.
I'm not encouraging it, but to see some getting irate on here before it's even happened beggars belief. Do you ever let your hair down?!
Jesus, when did we get such wet-wipe fans? We didn't have threads about pitch invasions back in the day, because we didn't have social media. No-one planned anything, it was just in the moment.
And your last comment makes no sense. It was never about any individual, it was just spontaneous joy. The fact that you want lengthy bans on long-suffering supporters finally having something to be joyful about says a lot about you.
I'm not encouraging it, but to see some getting irate on here before it's even happened beggars belief. Do you ever let your hair down?!
Which bit of it being illegal, potentially dangerous, disruptive to any celebrations the club have planned, potentially costly to the club and not what the club want is not clear?
We had brilliant spontaneous celebrations in the stands at Peterborough and Barnsley this week, the best I have seen in many years. We can celebrate in the stands and respect what the club have stipulated.
The world has changed since the pitch invasions at Oxford and at home v Burnley. Society has changed, and not always for the better.
Not irate but have no sympathy if the club and police take action against those who chose to disregard the clubs directions.
Jesus, when did we get such wet-wipe fans? We didn't have threads about pitch invasions back in the day, because we didn't have social media. No-one planned anything, it was just in the moment.
And your last comment makes no sense. It was never about any individual, it was just spontaneous joy. The fact that you want lengthy bans on long-suffering supporters finally having something to be joyful about says a lot about you.
I'm not encouraging it, but to see some getting irate on here before it's even happened beggars belief. Do you ever let your hair down?!
I don't think anyone is being a 'wet-wipe'. But I do think some are reacting to the attitude of some fans which seems to be, "Fcuk the club", (which is an odd attitude given where the club is now), "I'll go on the pitch if I want to".
And "It was OK in 1992 so it must be ok now". When if our promotion was two years earlier, we would have been behind cages.
The fact is, as has been pointed out, an invasion, whilst I'm sure will be amazing for those in the lower tiers, just ruins it for all those in the upper tiers. And like the club said, Sheffield United fans managed it, in what is arguably a more significant promotion.
I don't think anyone is being a 'wet-wipe'. But I do think some are reacting to the attitude of some fans which seems to be, "Fcuk the club", (which is an odd attitude given where the club is now), "I'll go on the pitch if I want to".
And "It was OK in 1992 so it must be ok now". When if our promotion was two years earlier, we would have been behind cages.
The fact is, as has been pointed out, an invasion, whilst I'm sure will be amazing for those in the lower tiers, just ruins it for all those in the upper tiers. And like the club said, Sheffield United fans managed it, in what is arguably a more significant promotion.
Which bit of it being illegal, potentially dangerous, disruptive to any celebrations the club have planned, potentially costly to the club and not what the club want is not clear?
We had brilliant spontaneous celebrations in the stands at Peterborough and Barnsley this week, the best I have seen in many years. We can celebrate in the stands and respect what the club have stipulated.
The world has changed since the pitch invasions at Oxford and at home v Burnley. Society has changed, and not always for the better.
Not irate but have no sympathy if the club and police take action against those who chose to disregard the clubs directions.
I wasn't talking about what the club have said, I was talking about how you, a supposed football supporter, actively wants LENGTHY BANS for other supporters expressing joy after two decades of misery.
I wasn't talking about what the club have said, I was talking about how you, a supposed football supporter, actively wants LENGTHY BANS for other supporters expressing joy after two decades of misery.
Think it is possible to celebrate without breaking the law.
Very naive if you think there won't be at least one d!ck going over to the Exeter players/fans.
This " oh I want to run on the pitch" i've never understood. Someone above said "a pitch invasion won't ruin the day", well lets spin it, "why does it seem imperative to your day to do it".
Its all very weird even before you take into account it won't seal us as champions (like in 1992) oand there is still a game left.
I wasn't talking about what the club have said, I was talking about how you, a supposed football supporter, actively wants LENGTHY BANS for other supporters expressing joy after two decades of misery.
You make far too many assumptions and sweeping generalisations about me.
You can express joy in the stands, we did this quite nicely at Posh and Barnsley?
If fans chose to do something that is illegal and prohibited by the club, then I would have no sympathy if the club or police took action against them, including banning them.
I don't think anyone is being a 'wet-wipe'. But I do think some are reacting to the attitude of some fans which seems to be, "Fcuk the club", (which is an odd attitude given where the club is now), "I'll go on the pitch if I want to".
And "It was OK in 1992 so it must be ok now". When if our promotion was two years earlier, we would have been behind cages.
The fact is, as has been pointed out, an invasion, whilst I'm sure will be amazing for those in the lower tiers, just ruins it for all those in the upper tiers. And like the club said, Sheffield United fans managed it, in what is arguably a more significant promotion.
I dunno why 92 is always brought up, I was on the pitch in 2000. It was fantastic, I wouldn't change it for the world. At that moment I knew a boyhood dream was being realised, I was going to watch Ipswich at Wembley.
Ruined for those in the upper tiers?! WTAF?! If anyone - after winning promotion - feels their day's ruined by fellow joyful supporters running about in ecstasy, then they ought to look in the mirror and wonder if football's for them.
If I were in an upper tier I'd be jumping about joyfully there and not worrying too much about what others are doing.
Isn't the idea of a pitch invasion something very spontaneous. Like something that jumps out of you with a burst of emotion that you can't control. This is something different where people are planning to be spontaneous and trying too hard to show how much they care. Seems a bit lame TBH. The reality is that far too many people think we're promoted right now .... and are planning to show a set of emotions like its a last-minute winner. No-one will ever repeat the joy and adulation of a besuited, David Pleat skipping across the turf. Just enjoy it without the unnecessary drama. Unless we do really have a last-minute winner at Fleetwood after nearly f#cking it up.
You're trying to tell me that you will just "spontaneously" climb over a barrier? Can't say I've ever felt that sort of urge.
Also, it won't be spontaneous as those wanting to do it are, as evidenced by this thread, clearly planning ahead of time.
This thread just sums up society as a whole at this time and it's very sad. "Ah, they can't ban us all, what are they going to do?" etc. This attitude of "I'll do what I want and I don't care about others."
The scenes at Barnsley would have been no better if there had been fans on the pitch.
Yeah, I do hope pitch invaders get banned. Fcuk them and their selfish attitudes, the fewer of them, the better.
I dunno why 92 is always brought up, I was on the pitch in 2000. It was fantastic, I wouldn't change it for the world. At that moment I knew a boyhood dream was being realised, I was going to watch Ipswich at Wembley.
Ruined for those in the upper tiers?! WTAF?! If anyone - after winning promotion - feels their day's ruined by fellow joyful supporters running about in ecstasy, then they ought to look in the mirror and wonder if football's for them.
If I were in an upper tier I'd be jumping about joyfully there and not worrying too much about what others are doing.
You'd be happy clapping thousands of fans on the pitch rather than your own players? Really?
You make far too many assumptions and sweeping generalisations about me.
You can express joy in the stands, we did this quite nicely at Posh and Barnsley?
If fans chose to do something that is illegal and prohibited by the club, then I would have no sympathy if the club or police took action against them, including banning them.
You demanded LENGTHY bans. Answer the point instead of hiding behind the club/the law.
What assumptions and sweeping generalisations have I made about you?
- "a supposed football supporter" - is this incorrect?! - "actively wants LENGTHY BANS" - well these are your exact words.
I dunno why 92 is always brought up, I was on the pitch in 2000. It was fantastic, I wouldn't change it for the world. At that moment I knew a boyhood dream was being realised, I was going to watch Ipswich at Wembley.
Ruined for those in the upper tiers?! WTAF?! If anyone - after winning promotion - feels their day's ruined by fellow joyful supporters running about in ecstasy, then they ought to look in the mirror and wonder if football's for them.
If I were in an upper tier I'd be jumping about joyfully there and not worrying too much about what others are doing.
I was in the upper tier in 2000 and couldn't get to the pitch. My day was not ruined at all.
If lap of honour doesn't happen, no worries. Maybe club could do something at suffolk showground or town hall.
I dunno why 92 is always brought up, I was on the pitch in 2000. It was fantastic, I wouldn't change it for the world. At that moment I knew a boyhood dream was being realised, I was going to watch Ipswich at Wembley.
Ruined for those in the upper tiers?! WTAF?! If anyone - after winning promotion - feels their day's ruined by fellow joyful supporters running about in ecstasy, then they ought to look in the mirror and wonder if football's for them.
If I were in an upper tier I'd be jumping about joyfully there and not worrying too much about what others are doing.
Here comes Dolly with the duff opinions.
"Blueas is a great guy, one of the best." - Donald Trump
If the club has asked us not to go on the pitch, I think that should be enough of a reason not to, no matter what views we may have on the subject. Why put the club in an awkward situation? Personally, I think it would be amazing if the players could do a proper celebratory lap of the pitch at the end, with all sides full and in full voice……if we win. Seems to be a lot of people forgetting that we still have to win a game of football. Port Vale at home still haunting me a bit.
You're trying to tell me that you will just "spontaneously" climb over a barrier? Can't say I've ever felt that sort of urge.
Also, it won't be spontaneous as those wanting to do it are, as evidenced by this thread, clearly planning ahead of time.
This thread just sums up society as a whole at this time and it's very sad. "Ah, they can't ban us all, what are they going to do?" etc. This attitude of "I'll do what I want and I don't care about others."
The scenes at Barnsley would have been no better if there had been fans on the pitch.
Yeah, I do hope pitch invaders get banned. Fcuk them and their selfish attitudes, the fewer of them, the better.
I can see why you think that from the OP and you've made your point nicely here. It's not that i think we should all be able to do what we want, i just don't really see a big problem with going on the pitch. If i understood why it was banned, maybe i'd be a bit less blase about it.
I was in the upper tier in 2000 and couldn't get to the pitch. My day was not ruined at all.
If lap of honour doesn't happen, no worries. Maybe club could do something at suffolk showground or town hall.
I'm fairly ambivalent to the whole thing but it would be a massive shame for the club and supporters if they couldn't go ahead with the planned post-match activities.
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
But you understand, not all season ticket holders live in an IP postcode, right? Why do they get to miss out?
Miss out on what though really? Maybe others rate lap of honours more highly than me. Just a slightly lengthier version of what happens at the end of every game, and nowadays it seems to involve the players' kids as well.
Personally I’m not fussed whether there’s a pitch invasion or not. It won’t add or subtract from the day. If the club are going to get fined or punished and they genuinely don’t want you on the pitch, then don’t do it. I’m not sure it’s that big a deal. And if you do come on and get banned, then hopefully it will make it easier to get away tickets next season 😉 But I would say all this party planning will come back to haunt us on Saturday if we don’t win. And that’s far from guaranteed. I’ve been an Ipswich fan too long to not have an inkling of doubt that it could go horribly wrong.
Miss out on what though really? Maybe others rate lap of honours more highly than me. Just a slightly lengthier version of what happens at the end of every game, and nowadays it seems to involve the players' kids as well.
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