| Let's be honest 23:04 - Apr 27 with 8547 views | BondiBlue |
No-one's getting banned or arrested for going on the pitch if we win saturday.
An ipswich pitch invasion will be very good natured and poses no threat to exeter players or staff.
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| Let's be honest on 13:39 - Apr 28 with 1516 views | Pinewoodblue |
If we think this through it is almost inevitable there will be a pitch invasion at some point.
You can divide pitch invaders into three categories.
The smallest category the self entitled who will go to the game intent on a pitch invasion at some point. Would like to think our stewards could already identify these and they will be handed, in advance, a written warning of the consequences.
The second category would be those who spontaneously get dragged into an invasion without thinking.
Finally the vast majority who look on see others going on the pitch and decide they will as well.
It is unlawful to go onto the pitch unless directed to do so. Just because the club are lenient on persistent standers do not expect them to be lenient if you offend by going on the pitch.
Anyone who is identified in advance as a potential offender, and receives a direct warning should face the consequences of their action and face a ban. Personally would ban them from any game consider high profile, home or away. Invade the pitch and miss Norwich games for example. Try and get around the ban and be banned for rest of the season.
Let everyone enjoy any end of season celebration, don’t be one of the idiots who spoils for everyone else. |  |
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| Let's be honest on 13:42 - Apr 28 with 1510 views | Stu_Magoo |
| Let's be honest on 00:40 - Apr 28 by BasingstokeBlue |
I also, was on the Hallowed Turf after the end of the 3-1 win over Brighton. |
Me too, was my first ever Town game I'd seen live. |  |
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| Let's be honest on 13:45 - Apr 28 with 1480 views | BondiBlue |
| Let's be honest on 13:42 - Apr 28 by Stu_Magoo |
Me too, was my first ever Town game I'd seen live. |
Only time i've actually been on the pitch was millwall at home in 96 when we sent them down. They started throwing chairs so we got evacuated straight over the pitch and out the back of the pioneer. | |
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| Let's be honest on 14:05 - Apr 28 with 1419 views | Pique |
| Let's be honest on 13:02 - Apr 28 by BondiBlue |
I'm regretting starting it. I think my original point was 'who cares?', which i admit makes for a pointless post. But it turns out loads of people care a lot. |
This whole thread is a bit bizarre. I don't personally have anything against pitch invasions per se; as long as they're conducted in the right spirit they can be quite joyful. And as an upper tier dweller I'm not too fussed about watching them rather than just the players.
But the club have politely asked us not to, for presumably sound reasons: it's illegal, we could end up with a big fine, it'll scupper what they already have planned for the post match part of the final home game, and they probably also don't want to take the (admittedly small) risk of compromising the safety of the playing and coaching staff.
After everything this regime has done for the club, the least we can do is respect that.
I would never want to see a fellow supporter banned for anything other than genuinely abusive or threatening behaviour, but anyone who ignores the rules can hardly have any complaints or expect any sympathy if they do end up with a ban. |  | | |
| Let's be honest on 14:05 - Apr 28 with 1413 views | Ryorry |
| Let's be honest on 09:28 - Apr 28 by CityBlue |
As much as I would love it as a player, I think I would find it equally worrying if a number of fans attempt to steal my shirt/boots etc and then drop me from their shoulders and I miss the important game at Fleetwood.... |
This, above all else, should persuade any and all true supporters not to "participate" IF we win tomorrow.
Why would any true supporters be willing to risk the possibility of injury to any of our heroes which could linger not just to the final game, but right into the summer and beyond?
What a way to repay them, the other players, manager, staff and owners for everything they've put in & the excitement of this season.
Seems to me the epitome of selfishness & counter-productive stupidity. Have some self-discipline people, & thank all at the Club for all they've done by *not* invading the pitch if we win. That'd be classy, and everyone can still feel & show their joy in the stands - imagine the 28K Blues choir in one voice chanting KM's name, and a mass hug-in with your seat neighbours! |  |
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| Let's be honest on 14:31 - Apr 28 with 1346 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Let's be honest on 12:37 - Apr 28 by xrayspecs |
Let's be honest by The_Flashing_Smile 28 Apr 2023 10:04You demanded LENGTHY bans. Answer the point instead of hiding behind the club/the law.
What assumptions and sweeping generalisations have I made about you?
- "a supposed football supporter" - is this incorrect?!
- "actively wants LENGTHY BANS" - well these are your exact words.
What have I missed?!
I said I hope they get lengthy bans and if they do then I will have no sympathy. Hoping is not demanding, as you claim. You are misrepresenting what I posted by exggeration.
A long ban would act as a deterrent.
You have portrayed me as being a wet wipe, irate, and not a proper supporter, they are all assumptions you have made not knowing me, and are also insulting.
And you are doubling down on the assumptions/insults about me not understanding passion and that I am angry. I am mildly amused at your line of arguments and attempt to misrepresent me.
I have followed Ipswich all over the country and in Europe. Many of my best memories come from celebrating in 78, 81, on the terraces at Cambridge, Southend and Oxford in 91, going 2-1 up at Anfield in the FA cup replay, play-offs in 2000, and I am loving the run in to this season. Derby, Posh and Barnsley were up there with some of the best atmospheres I have experienced. I have passion.
Times have changed since we beat Bolton and we have witnessed in recent season fans using pitch invasions as an excuse to attack footballers. It is why the authorities are clamping down.
The club has told fans not to invade the pitch. Stop trying to justify ignoring the law, EFL and club instructions.
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"Hoping is not demanding, as you claim. You are misrepresenting what I posted by exggeration."
Jesus wept, talk about using semantics to deflect.
Whether you're hoping, demanding or contemplating I don't really care. It's the fact that you're wanting LENGTHY bans for overexcited supporters who've had precious little to get excited about in 20 years that flummoxes me. |  |
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| Let's be honest on 14:32 - Apr 28 with 1346 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Let's be honest on 12:42 - Apr 28 by CaptainAhab |
I've stayed out of this stupid debate, mostly because I can't make it to PR on Saturday, but also because organising a pitch invasion before the game has even happened is unbelievably tinpot.
One thing that does grind my gears though, is this assumption from some fans that people who don't want a pitch invasion are somehow not "proper" fans, like the only way to show passion and how much it means is by running on the pitch. |
No-one said it's the only way. It's just 'a way'. And I don't think people should get lengthy bans for it. | |
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| Let's be honest on 14:37 - Apr 28 with 1340 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Let's be honest on 12:55 - Apr 28 by SamWhiteUK |
This is it for me. Lots are showing very similar behaviour to a kid that keeps going, "but why? But why?" to everything you say |
No, it's not like that at all (well not from me). I don't care how people want to celebrate and I'm not demanding I be allowed on the pitch either. I'm just astonished at a someone who wants lengthy bans for fellow supporters like it's the crime of the century. | |
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| Let's be honest on 14:39 - Apr 28 with 1336 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Let's be honest on 13:39 - Apr 28 by Pinewoodblue |
If we think this through it is almost inevitable there will be a pitch invasion at some point.
You can divide pitch invaders into three categories.
The smallest category the self entitled who will go to the game intent on a pitch invasion at some point. Would like to think our stewards could already identify these and they will be handed, in advance, a written warning of the consequences.
The second category would be those who spontaneously get dragged into an invasion without thinking.
Finally the vast majority who look on see others going on the pitch and decide they will as well.
It is unlawful to go onto the pitch unless directed to do so. Just because the club are lenient on persistent standers do not expect them to be lenient if you offend by going on the pitch.
Anyone who is identified in advance as a potential offender, and receives a direct warning should face the consequences of their action and face a ban. Personally would ban them from any game consider high profile, home or away. Invade the pitch and miss Norwich games for example. Try and get around the ban and be banned for rest of the season.
Let everyone enjoy any end of season celebration, don’t be one of the idiots who spoils for everyone else. |
Again, if people running on the pitch spoils the day for you then you need to question yourself, not them. | |
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| Let's be honest on 14:40 - Apr 28 with 1338 views | hype313 |
| Let's be honest on 14:37 - Apr 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No, it's not like that at all (well not from me). I don't care how people want to celebrate and I'm not demanding I be allowed on the pitch either. I'm just astonished at a someone who wants lengthy bans for fellow supporters like it's the crime of the century. |
Unfortunately in these times we have a minority that will be tanked and coked up to the eyeballs, and whilst the majority will behave if they went onto the pitch, it's more to do with players safety, and you can't run the risk that some berk will try to go OTT at the Exeter players, as we saw with those Forest fans. |  |
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| Let's be honest on 15:07 - Apr 28 with 1281 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Let's be honest on 14:39 - Apr 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Again, if people running on the pitch spoils the day for you then you need to question yourself, not them. |
If I question anything it is an unwillingness to put certain posters on ignore. | |
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| Let's be honest on 15:09 - Apr 28 with 1270 views | Skip_Intro |
It's interesting how divisive this is and also how emotive it seems to be.
Personally I'm in the SBR upper and would rather watch the players doing a slow lap of honour with loads of applause and chanting (I would feel the same if I were still in the SBR lower btw) - that would be an incredible spine-tingling moment - followed by the end of season awards on the pitch.
Genuine question - can I ask how or why running onto the pitch and jumping around with other fans would feel better than showing some real love and appreciation for the players and staff after an incredible season? |  | | |
| Let's be honest on 15:17 - Apr 28 with 1256 views | xrayspecs |
| Let's be honest on 14:31 - Apr 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
"Hoping is not demanding, as you claim. You are misrepresenting what I posted by exggeration."
Jesus wept, talk about using semantics to deflect.
Whether you're hoping, demanding or contemplating I don't really care. It's the fact that you're wanting LENGTHY bans for overexcited supporters who've had precious little to get excited about in 20 years that flummoxes me. |
Demanding is not the same as hoping, the former is an active, insistent and preemptive call for action, the latter a passive desire that action is taken.
There were circa 5000 of us overexcited fans on Tuesday night who celebrated hard without the need to invade the pitch. As we have done at every game this season.
Being over-excited does not justify doing something you have been told is not permitted by law nor allowed by the club. Bans and criminal prosecutions are options for the club and police and I would have no sympathy for fans who have been clearly warned about these possible sanctions, should they transgress and fall foul of the authorities.
We could have a discussion about what lengthy means in this context, as you seem keen to highlight this in capitals, but I have no interest in engaging with you further.
Your lack of acknowledgement of all the false assumptions you have made about me and your insults is noted. | | | |
| Let's be honest on 16:07 - Apr 28 with 1169 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Let's be honest on 14:39 - Apr 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Again, if people running on the pitch spoils the day for you then you need to question yourself, not them. |
If people are running on the pitch because they're celebrating something about the club they love..... why doesn't that love make them respect the wishes of the club, which is to not go onto the pitch...
What is the genuine excitement about running onto a pitch, it's bizarre. Stay in the stands, celebrate with fellow town fans and allow the club to do what they want without any potential dangers happening on the pitch. |  |
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| Let's be honest on 16:11 - Apr 28 with 1161 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Let's be honest on 14:40 - Apr 28 by hype313 |
Unfortunately in these times we have a minority that will be tanked and coked up to the eyeballs, and whilst the majority will behave if they went onto the pitch, it's more to do with players safety, and you can't run the risk that some berk will try to go OTT at the Exeter players, as we saw with those Forest fans. |
Bare in mind we've had 'fans' going face to face with our own players for not winning football.. I dread to think what a coked up, pssed fan is going to think when he;s in front of an away player..
football is vastly different nowadays than it was many years ago unfortunately, that's just how it is, and we've seen with the increase in police involvement outside PR that we do have groups who enjoy pushing the boundaries. | |
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| Let's be honest on 16:15 - Apr 28 with 1159 views | lazyblue |
There is a reason why they don’t want you on the pitch so wait until the announcement a h/t tomorrow. | | | |
| Let's be honest on 17:18 - Apr 28 with 1075 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Let's be honest on 16:07 - Apr 28 by FrimleyBlue |
If people are running on the pitch because they're celebrating something about the club they love..... why doesn't that love make them respect the wishes of the club, which is to not go onto the pitch...
What is the genuine excitement about running onto a pitch, it's bizarre. Stay in the stands, celebrate with fellow town fans and allow the club to do what they want without any potential dangers happening on the pitch. |
I mean, you're scared that fans lining the streets and cheering the bus is going to put the players off... | |
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| Let's be honest on 17:24 - Apr 28 with 1062 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Let's be honest on 17:18 - Apr 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I mean, you're scared that fans lining the streets and cheering the bus is going to put the players off... |
Who's scared?
Also no one said it was about putting players off. But well done on making up something instead of replying properly. | |
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| Let's be honest on 17:26 - Apr 28 with 1059 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Let's be honest on 17:24 - Apr 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Who's scared?
Also no one said it was about putting players off. But well done on making up something instead of replying properly. |
You said it could affect the preparations or some such nonsense. I can't always remember the exact words of your silliness. | |
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| Let's be honest on 17:28 - Apr 28 with 1049 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Let's be honest on 17:26 - Apr 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You said it could affect the preparations or some such nonsense. I can't always remember the exact words of your silliness. |
Well as said. Its something others shared the view with including a players family member. It's not about putting players off but I feel it's insulting to exeter and celebrating before we've done the job. But tbh I can't be bothered to go through it again. That was yesterday.
( I did however also say it could delay pre Match routines if that's what you're referring to?)
If you want to discuss my orignal reply in this thread by all means please do But don't make stuff up for the sake of it [Post edited 28 Apr 2023 17:32]
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| Let's be honest on 17:32 - Apr 28 with 1029 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Let's be honest on 17:28 - Apr 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Well as said. Its something others shared the view with including a players family member. It's not about putting players off but I feel it's insulting to exeter and celebrating before we've done the job. But tbh I can't be bothered to go through it again. That was yesterday.
( I did however also say it could delay pre Match routines if that's what you're referring to?)
If you want to discuss my orignal reply in this thread by all means please do But don't make stuff up for the sake of it [Post edited 28 Apr 2023 17:32]
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As I said, the Exeter players won't even see it.
As others said, it's a well know thing that top teams have been doing for ages. It's about encouragement.
And, McKenna's in favour. | |
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| Let's be honest on 17:33 - Apr 28 with 1020 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Let's be honest on 17:32 - Apr 28 by The_Flashing_Smile |
As I said, the Exeter players won't even see it.
As others said, it's a well know thing that top teams have been doing for ages. It's about encouragement.
And, McKenna's in favour. |
As said. Like this pitch invasion. Some will like the idea some don't. | |
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| Let's be honest on 17:40 - Apr 28 with 985 views | Herbivore |
| Let's be honest on 16:11 - Apr 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Bare in mind we've had 'fans' going face to face with our own players for not winning football.. I dread to think what a coked up, pssed fan is going to think when he;s in front of an away player..
football is vastly different nowadays than it was many years ago unfortunately, that's just how it is, and we've seen with the increase in police involvement outside PR that we do have groups who enjoy pushing the boundaries. |
Football really isn't that different now. I'd wager there's less violence now than when we got promoted to the Prem in the early 90s and invaded the pitch. |  |
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| Let's be honest on 17:41 - Apr 28 with 974 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Let's be honest on 17:33 - Apr 28 by FrimleyBlue |
As said. Like this pitch invasion. Some will like the idea some don't. |
Anyway, at the end of the day we're all after the same thing tomorrow, so I wish you and all ITFC supporters the best for it. Let's get it done! | |
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| Let's be honest on 17:44 - Apr 28 with 950 views | Bury_St_Edmundson |
| Let's be honest on 17:40 - Apr 28 by Herbivore |
Football really isn't that different now. I'd wager there's less violence now than when we got promoted to the Prem in the early 90s and invaded the pitch. |
Health and safety is completely different to the 90s, life is pretty damn different to the 90s |  | | |
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