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My advice. Don't do it. Celebrate if we win, but why lumber the club that has given us all so much pleasure this season with an unnecessary fine. Don't we all want money spent on upgrading the stadium, playing staff and everything that goes with the match day experience. You can clap, cheer and go mad in the stands, outside and in the pubs and clubs at night. So don't be silly and run on the pitch. The players will come to you for applause and appreciation.
You're trying to tell me that you will just "spontaneously" climb over a barrier? Can't say I've ever felt that sort of urge.
Also, it won't be spontaneous as those wanting to do it are, as evidenced by this thread, clearly planning ahead of time.
This thread just sums up society as a whole at this time and it's very sad. "Ah, they can't ban us all, what are they going to do?" etc. This attitude of "I'll do what I want and I don't care about others."
The scenes at Barnsley would have been no better if there had been fans on the pitch.
Yeah, I do hope pitch invaders get banned. Fcuk them and their selfish attitudes, the fewer of them, the better.
"You're trying to tell me that you will just "spontaneously" climb over a barrier? Can't say I've ever felt that sort of urge."
No I'm sure you haven't. And that's why you don't get it.
Here comes Blueas, always following me around desperate for me to notice him. I'm probably a bit old for you now we've established you think of 14 year olds.
This is section 4 of the Football (Offences) Act 1991.
"It is an offence for a person at a designated football match to go onto the playing area, or any area adjacent to the playing area to which spectators are not generally admitted, without lawful authority or lawful excuse (which shall be for him to prove)."
There is no lawful authority or excuse (which would cover, say, a fire), and this legislation was brought in for a reason.
And whilst there may be safety in numbers, those who lead the way could well be arrested and banned. And who is to say that the same might not happen to others? Indeed, I imagine the bizzies will be out in force.
To my mind the celebrations of the players on the pitch at Barnsley, and interaction with the fans, were magical, and I would rather the same on Saturday.
Also, for those of us in the upper parts of the stadium, access to the pitch is impossible, so if a pitch invasion happens, we will be forced to watch hundreds of fans on the pitch, when we would rather watch, and give our appreciation to, the players.
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That's the best argument against it. Funny how people are making up all sorts of excuses for why it's bad without reference to the obvious fact that it's against the law. (Although a few people have started mentioning this now).
It's a real shame and I think football and us are both loser as we increasingly sanitise everything, but it is against the law. That matters and people should listen to the club.
The thing I'm finding most fascinating about it all though is the reaction to the idea that there could be a pitch invasion. Entering the ground drunk is also against the law, but I wonder how many people have had alcohol before the game. How many times have people wanted to dob themselves or their friends in for breaking that law? Persistent standing is against ground regulations everywhere, yet show me someone that hasn't stood up at an away game or at big games at PR (it's Ground regulation No. 13 at PR for those who really like their regulations). The clips of the away end at Barnsley show 5,000 fans breaking ground regs which can result in expulsion from the ground, but nobody bats an eyelid. It's actually held up as an example of how wonderful our support is.
Both the above examples are against the wishes of clubs and either illegal or in breach of regulations. Yet people ignore those cases almost without exception and many people complaining about pitch invasions may well have either been drunk or stood during play at some point. Yet just the idea of a pitch invasion has people up in arms talking about regulations, the club's wishes and people being selfish. Persistently standing is selfish if people behind can't see. A psychologist could have a field day here.
That's the best argument against it. Funny how people are making up all sorts of excuses for why it's bad without reference to the obvious fact that it's against the law. (Although a few people have started mentioning this now).
It's a real shame and I think football and us are both loser as we increasingly sanitise everything, but it is against the law. That matters and people should listen to the club.
The thing I'm finding most fascinating about it all though is the reaction to the idea that there could be a pitch invasion. Entering the ground drunk is also against the law, but I wonder how many people have had alcohol before the game. How many times have people wanted to dob themselves or their friends in for breaking that law? Persistent standing is against ground regulations everywhere, yet show me someone that hasn't stood up at an away game or at big games at PR (it's Ground regulation No. 13 at PR for those who really like their regulations). The clips of the away end at Barnsley show 5,000 fans breaking ground regs which can result in expulsion from the ground, but nobody bats an eyelid. It's actually held up as an example of how wonderful our support is.
Both the above examples are against the wishes of clubs and either illegal or in breach of regulations. Yet people ignore those cases almost without exception and many people complaining about pitch invasions may well have either been drunk or stood during play at some point. Yet just the idea of a pitch invasion has people up in arms talking about regulations, the club's wishes and people being selfish. Persistently standing is selfish if people behind can't see. A psychologist could have a field day here.
I just find the heat over it all a bit odd, given where we are now as a club/fanbase. The match can't come quickly enough for me so we can get back to crapping ourselves. lol.
If you want an insight into how the club feels about this, aside from press statements, then look no further than what we saw mid-season....
NSU supporters now being ushered upstairs immediately rather than being able to congregate in the lower concourse areas with NSL supporters.
They won't prosecute, of course not, but you can bet those who don't want to see Ipswich do well will press for Police to take action and some people will get caught out (thankfully not many due to Police resources).
I think it sucks personally, I have fond memories of getting on the pitch and my mate pulling out a kitchen knife and taking a piece of turf and sticking it inside his jacket lol!
You demanded LENGTHY bans. Answer the point instead of hiding behind the club/the law.
What assumptions and sweeping generalisations have I made about you?
- "a supposed football supporter" - is this incorrect?! - "actively wants LENGTHY BANS" - well these are your exact words.
What have I missed?!
I have not demanded lengthy bans — the words I used were I hope the club issues lengthy bans and that I would have no sympathy with any fans who got banned.
It is possible to be a football supporter and support pitch invaders being banned, they are not mutually exclusive.
As for insults, you have called me a "supposed football supporter", a “wet wipe” and accused me of being irate, which I am not.
That's the best argument against it. Funny how people are making up all sorts of excuses for why it's bad without reference to the obvious fact that it's against the law. (Although a few people have started mentioning this now).
It's a real shame and I think football and us are both loser as we increasingly sanitise everything, but it is against the law. That matters and people should listen to the club.
The thing I'm finding most fascinating about it all though is the reaction to the idea that there could be a pitch invasion. Entering the ground drunk is also against the law, but I wonder how many people have had alcohol before the game. How many times have people wanted to dob themselves or their friends in for breaking that law? Persistent standing is against ground regulations everywhere, yet show me someone that hasn't stood up at an away game or at big games at PR (it's Ground regulation No. 13 at PR for those who really like their regulations). The clips of the away end at Barnsley show 5,000 fans breaking ground regs which can result in expulsion from the ground, but nobody bats an eyelid. It's actually held up as an example of how wonderful our support is.
Both the above examples are against the wishes of clubs and either illegal or in breach of regulations. Yet people ignore those cases almost without exception and many people complaining about pitch invasions may well have either been drunk or stood during play at some point. Yet just the idea of a pitch invasion has people up in arms talking about regulations, the club's wishes and people being selfish. Persistently standing is selfish if people behind can't see. A psychologist could have a field day here.
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Players know they will get a yellow card for taking their shirts off to celebrate a goal (however weird that urge to do that is, to my mind), but still see many doing it.
Personally, I'm not planning on going on the pitch as if it's a maybe they will, maybe they won't issue bans, I'd quite like to watch us playing back in the championship next season, with a brand of football I've enjoyed watching this season.
I have not demanded lengthy bans — the words I used were I hope the club issues lengthy bans and that I would have no sympathy with any fans who got banned.
It is possible to be a football supporter and support pitch invaders being banned, they are not mutually exclusive.
As for insults, you have called me a "supposed football supporter", a “wet wipe” and accused me of being irate, which I am not.
You are twisting and swerving like a ballerina. I was focussed on the word LENGTHY, hence I capitalised it. You've decided to focus on the word demand.
Why do you want fellow supporters not only banned but banned for a long time?
You never mentioned insults. You said I'd made loads of assumptions about you. Where are they?
I said a "supposed football supporter" because you don't seem to understand the passion of supporting a football team. I've been on the pitch and didn't even think about it. Pure joy took over. No-one got harmed. No-one's day was ruined. If it were down to you I, and thousands like me, would've been banned from our first year back in the Prem.
Why does people enjoying themselves make you so angry?
You are twisting and swerving like a ballerina. I was focussed on the word LENGTHY, hence I capitalised it. You've decided to focus on the word demand.
Why do you want fellow supporters not only banned but banned for a long time?
You never mentioned insults. You said I'd made loads of assumptions about you. Where are they?
I said a "supposed football supporter" because you don't seem to understand the passion of supporting a football team. I've been on the pitch and didn't even think about it. Pure joy took over. No-one got harmed. No-one's day was ruined. If it were down to you I, and thousands like me, would've been banned from our first year back in the Prem.
Why does people enjoying themselves make you so angry?
Let's be honest by The_Flashing_Smile28 Apr 2023 10:04 You demanded LENGTHY bans. Answer the point instead of hiding behind the club/the law.
What assumptions and sweeping generalisations have I made about you?
- "a supposed football supporter" - is this incorrect?!
- "actively wants LENGTHY BANS" - well these are your exact words.
What have I missed?!
I said I hope they get lengthy bans and if they do then I will have no sympathy. Hoping is not demanding, as you claim. You are misrepresenting what I posted by exggeration.
A long ban would act as a deterrent.
You have portrayed me as being a wet wipe, irate, and not a proper supporter, they are all assumptions you have made not knowing me, and are also insulting.
And you are doubling down on the assumptions/insults about me not understanding passion and that I am angry. I am mildly amused at your line of arguments and attempt to misrepresent me.
I have followed Ipswich all over the country and in Europe. Many of my best memories come from celebrating in 78, 81, on the terraces at Cambridge, Southend and Oxford in 91, going 2-1 up at Anfield in the FA cup replay, play-offs in 2000, and I am loving the run in to this season. Derby, Posh and Barnsley were up there with some of the best atmospheres I have experienced. I have passion.
Times have changed since we beat Bolton and we have witnessed in recent season fans using pitch invasions as an excuse to attack footballers. It is why the authorities are clamping down.
The club has told fans not to invade the pitch. Stop trying to justify ignoring the law, EFL and club instructions.
You are twisting and swerving like a ballerina. I was focussed on the word LENGTHY, hence I capitalised it. You've decided to focus on the word demand.
Why do you want fellow supporters not only banned but banned for a long time?
You never mentioned insults. You said I'd made loads of assumptions about you. Where are they?
I said a "supposed football supporter" because you don't seem to understand the passion of supporting a football team. I've been on the pitch and didn't even think about it. Pure joy took over. No-one got harmed. No-one's day was ruined. If it were down to you I, and thousands like me, would've been banned from our first year back in the Prem.
Why does people enjoying themselves make you so angry?
I've stayed out of this stupid debate, mostly because I can't make it to PR on Saturday, but also because organising a pitch invasion before the game has even happened is unbelievably tinpot.
One thing that does grind my gears though, is this assumption from some fans that people who don't want a pitch invasion are somehow not "proper" fans, like the only way to show passion and how much it means is by running on the pitch.
Weirdly reading this thread is making me feel more inclined to go on the pitch if we win. The level of handwringing and knicker dampening going on over this is borderline insane.
I feel sorry for people who don't know how to let their hair down and have fun without worrying about safety measures.
I feel sorry for people who can't be told by an organisation that doesn't have to let you in, what they expect of you, without stamping their feet like a petulant 8 year old, who's been told its 'time to come in now.'
It's not about safety measures, The club, that has been saved from heading toward league two over the last 24 months, has asked us not to. Thats enough for me. If they had said nothing, I'd have been on with everyone else, but now, I won't be.
The club read this forum, I've no doubt at all, and are probably calling every security company in Suffolk for additional stewarding. The odds are, those in rows A, B and C won't even be able to see the last 5 minutes except through a sea of fluorescent orange jackets.
Edit: The club also want to do Player of the Year on the pitch after the game. Another reason to stay off.
I feel sorry for people who can't be told by an organisation that doesn't have to let you in, what they expect of you, without stamping their feet like a petulant 8 year old, who's been told its 'time to come in now.'
It's not about safety measures, The club, that has been saved from heading toward league two over the last 24 months, has asked us not to. Thats enough for me. If they had said nothing, I'd have been on with everyone else, but now, I won't be.
The club read this forum, I've no doubt at all, and are probably calling every security company in Suffolk for additional stewarding. The odds are, those in rows A, B and C won't even be able to see the last 5 minutes except through a sea of fluorescent orange jackets.
Edit: The club also want to do Player of the Year on the pitch after the game. Another reason to stay off.
[Post edited 28 Apr 2023 13:46]
This is it for me. Lots are showing very similar behaviour to a kid that keeps going, "but why? But why?" to everything you say
Weirdly reading this thread is making me feel more inclined to go on the pitch if we win. The level of handwringing and knicker dampening going on over this is borderline insane.
I'm regretting starting it. I think my original point was 'who cares?', which i admit makes for a pointless post. But it turns out loads of people care a lot.
I'm regretting starting it. I think my original point was 'who cares?', which i admit makes for a pointless post. But it turns out loads of people care a lot.
I've really enjoyed going onto the pitch at the end of a season. I would love it if all parties would be happy if it was allowed AFTER a lap by the players.
I'll be in Sir Alf Upper and I'd love to see a lap. No better way for us to show our appreciation. But then when all the players are off safely, the fans could go on.
There's no better feeling than standing on the centre spot with hundreds of town fans after a successful season, fans taking in a view of our fantastic stadium that we don't get to see normally.
I don't know if fines etc are only applicable if the EFL deem there was danger to the players, but at the end of the day if the club say no, we should respect that.
Promotion is the only real important thing. Let's get it done. CMON TOWEN.
Agree. A pitch invitation rather than invasion. Make it happen Ashton.
Personally I don’t think the club will ban people but nor do I think it’s wise to ignore their instructions and give the jobsworths at the EFL a decision to make.
Just playing Devil’s advocate, for those who plan to do it anyway what happens if only 50 or so come on? You’re pretty identifiable then. Will you bleat or plead innocence if you end up being banned? Is it really worth that hassle when you’re going to be celebrating anyway? I understand the argument about 1992 and 2000 but the law is different now and there’s no grey area there.
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