| Get out of our club 22:41 - May 7 with 11208 views | lunatic1988 |
I know the club can’t probably do much, but seen a few videos circling today of the baby beater in the fanzone, bloke makes me feel physically sick as he walks round like he has no care in the world. Surely a petition or something would make the club stand up and notice, hate him being around kids and families knowing what his done
Sorry for negative post after a tremendous season [Post edited 8 May 2023 12:25]
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| Get out of our club on 08:32 - May 8 with 6502 views | Mullet |
Problem is, he's served his time. The club can't do anything unless he's out on licence and breaking some of the T's and C's. They'd be up for discrimination quicksharp.
Also, fans beating the sh1t out of him just gets them nicked and him victimhood. I've not clocked him at a game for months but he seems to keep his head down. What can be done exactly? |  |
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| Get out of our club on 08:44 - May 8 with 6393 views | lunatic1988 |
| Get out of our club on 08:32 - May 8 by Mullet |
Problem is, he's served his time. The club can't do anything unless he's out on licence and breaking some of the T's and C's. They'd be up for discrimination quicksharp.
Also, fans beating the sh1t out of him just gets them nicked and him victimhood. I've not clocked him at a game for months but he seems to keep his head down. What can be done exactly? |
Completely agree with you mate, he still goes. See him at most games. Don’t think nothing can be done, it’s just stomach turning seeing him in a vicinity with lots of children about | | | |
| Get out of our club on 09:26 - May 8 with 6127 views | HighgateBlue |
| Get out of our club on 08:32 - May 8 by Mullet |
Problem is, he's served his time. The club can't do anything unless he's out on licence and breaking some of the T's and C's. They'd be up for discrimination quicksharp.
Also, fans beating the sh1t out of him just gets them nicked and him victimhood. I've not clocked him at a game for months but he seems to keep his head down. What can be done exactly? |
What do you mean by 'up for discrimination'? The Football Club is a club, and can determine who they allow to attend games. They would not be breaching the criminal law or human rights or equality laws by banning someone on this basis, and I can't see that there would be any contractual provision in their relationship to the EFL that would prohibit it.
I'm not saying they should necessarily take that course, but I can't see that anything would prevent them. |  | | |
| Get out of our club on 09:47 - May 8 with 5985 views | Buhrer |
| Get out of our club on 09:26 - May 8 by HighgateBlue |
What do you mean by 'up for discrimination'? The Football Club is a club, and can determine who they allow to attend games. They would not be breaching the criminal law or human rights or equality laws by banning someone on this basis, and I can't see that there would be any contractual provision in their relationship to the EFL that would prohibit it.
I'm not saying they should necessarily take that course, but I can't see that anything would prevent them. |
I don't know who this individual is though they seem notorious. I agree with a club setting standards of admittance, but if we're not all DBSed and vetted.... wouldn't it be discrimination to ban individual cases. If we are talking people that have served time for awful stuff, they sit among us. I don't know the severity of this persoms prior crime, so I'd recommend the OP speak to the club and police re their concerns. |  | | |
| Get out of our club on 09:59 - May 8 with 5886 views | clive_baker |
| Get out of our club on 09:47 - May 8 by Buhrer |
I don't know who this individual is though they seem notorious. I agree with a club setting standards of admittance, but if we're not all DBSed and vetted.... wouldn't it be discrimination to ban individual cases. If we are talking people that have served time for awful stuff, they sit among us. I don't know the severity of this persoms prior crime, so I'd recommend the OP speak to the club and police re their concerns. |
The club are aware already. It was a very serious offence that for some reason only saw him behind bars for a matter of months.
https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/21800054.baby-assault-man-jailed/
He’s a regular home and away, as others have said it always makes me feel very uneasy to be around this despicable human being. Practically speaking I’ve always assumed it’s been hard for the club to do much about it, but maybe they could just ban him? I’m not sure. |  |
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| Get out of our club on 10:02 - May 8 with 5817 views | lunatic1988 |
| Get out of our club on 09:59 - May 8 by clive_baker |
The club are aware already. It was a very serious offence that for some reason only saw him behind bars for a matter of months.
https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/21800054.baby-assault-man-jailed/
He’s a regular home and away, as others have said it always makes me feel very uneasy to be around this despicable human being. Practically speaking I’ve always assumed it’s been hard for the club to do much about it, but maybe they could just ban him? I’m not sure. |
Makes my skin crawl, shocking crime. Disgusting human being | | | |
| Get out of our club on 10:02 - May 8 with 5825 views | Mullet |
| Get out of our club on 09:26 - May 8 by HighgateBlue |
What do you mean by 'up for discrimination'? The Football Club is a club, and can determine who they allow to attend games. They would not be breaching the criminal law or human rights or equality laws by banning someone on this basis, and I can't see that there would be any contractual provision in their relationship to the EFL that would prohibit it.
I'm not saying they should necessarily take that course, but I can't see that anything would prevent them. |
Generally speaking it would have to be rooted in his behaviour at games, the implication here is it'd be because of his horrendous conviction.
The club would likely have to show they're banning anyone with a (similar) conviction. That's not likely to be a can of worms they want to open. Some lawyer would happily take up that challenge costing them time and money regardless.
I'm pretty sure given the size of the community they are well aware too. I'm amazed he has the balls to attend and no one has slapped him about either, but that's by the by. | |
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| Get out of our club on 10:07 - May 8 with 5777 views | lunatic1988 |
It does seem like it’s more common knowledge what his done, escorted out of the fanzone yesterday by a number of stewards. | | | |
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| Get out of our club on 10:14 - May 8 with 5689 views | troyparrotsleftear |
| Get out of our club on 10:07 - May 8 by lunatic1988 |
It does seem like it’s more common knowledge what his done, escorted out of the fanzone yesterday by a number of stewards. |
why does he even go? you'd think he'd be so ashamed he'd keep his head down | | | |
| Get out of our club on 10:22 - May 8 with 5600 views | Darth_Koont |
Maybe someone can have a word with his remaining friends and family re: him attending as this probably isn’t going to end well.
But I don’t think there’s anything fans or the club should do. It’s a sentencing/justice concern that has nothing to do with football and, essentially, it’s the same issue if he is anywhere in public – from going to work or going shopping. |  |
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| Get out of our club on 10:26 - May 8 with 5517 views | stickymockwell |
| Get out of our club on 10:14 - May 8 by troyparrotsleftear |
why does he even go? you'd think he'd be so ashamed he'd keep his head down |
I don't know this man, nor have I ever heard of him.
It seems very grim that he's amongst us but what can anyone do. It wasn't a sexual predator crime or premeditated, so I think kids are safe.
He should be behind bars though |  |
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| Get out of our club on 10:45 - May 8 with 5370 views | hadleighboyblue |
| Get out of our club on 10:02 - May 8 by lunatic1988 |
Makes my skin crawl, shocking crime. Disgusting human being |
Why did he only get 3 years for such a horrific crime ? | | | |
| Get out of our club on 10:57 - May 8 with 5284 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Get out of our club on 10:14 - May 8 by troyparrotsleftear |
why does he even go? you'd think he'd be so ashamed he'd keep his head down |
I don’t know him, thankfully, but I suspect if he was capable of feeling shame he wouldn’t have battered a baby. |  |
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| Get out of our club on 11:13 - May 8 with 5153 views | lunatic1988 |
| Get out of our club on 10:45 - May 8 by hadleighboyblue |
Why did he only get 3 years for such a horrific crime ? |
Havnt got a clue…I don’t know the bloke and don’t want to know him mate, picked up on him from a few conversations going around on Twitter about him. Proper scum. No doubt he’ll be mixing around the fans at the park today. | | | |
| Get out of our club on 11:41 - May 8 with 4999 views | Farmerpiles |
Sits in SBR upper, front row towards the middle. Shaved his beard when I saw him last home game. He's scum and has no shame. |  | | |
| Get out of our club on 11:50 - May 8 with 4888 views | catch74 |
Is he the one that got a job with the security firm - who were then fired because they hadn’t done their background checks? If he shouldn’t be working in that capacity/ he’s got the criminal record for that particular crime then surely there’s grounds to ban him - as someone else said even for his own safety. Sickening crime, personally wouldn’t want him in a family centred environment and with multiple people knowing who he is. |  |
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| Get out of our club on 11:56 - May 8 with 4839 views | clive_baker |
| Get out of our club on 11:50 - May 8 by catch74 |
Is he the one that got a job with the security firm - who were then fired because they hadn’t done their background checks? If he shouldn’t be working in that capacity/ he’s got the criminal record for that particular crime then surely there’s grounds to ban him - as someone else said even for his own safety. Sickening crime, personally wouldn’t want him in a family centred environment and with multiple people knowing who he is. |
No that was someone else. He was a convinced nonce | |
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| Get out of our club on 11:56 - May 8 with 4830 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Get out of our club on 10:45 - May 8 by hadleighboyblue |
Why did he only get 3 years for such a horrific crime ? |
Because it's 'only' assault.
Any know if he's a ST holder and where he sits? If its anywhere near me, a slew of people ringing up to move seat might make the club pay, slightly closer attention. |  |
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| Get out of our club on 12:05 - May 8 with 4753 views | chicoazul |
| Get out of our club on 08:32 - May 8 by Mullet |
Problem is, he's served his time. The club can't do anything unless he's out on licence and breaking some of the T's and C's. They'd be up for discrimination quicksharp.
Also, fans beating the sh1t out of him just gets them nicked and him victimhood. I've not clocked him at a game for months but he seems to keep his head down. What can be done exactly? |
I don’t know about this. The club is a privately run business and can presumably refuse to admit anyone they choose. |  |
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| Get out of our club on 12:08 - May 8 with 4729 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Get out of our club on 10:02 - May 8 by Mullet |
Generally speaking it would have to be rooted in his behaviour at games, the implication here is it'd be because of his horrendous conviction.
The club would likely have to show they're banning anyone with a (similar) conviction. That's not likely to be a can of worms they want to open. Some lawyer would happily take up that challenge costing them time and money regardless.
I'm pretty sure given the size of the community they are well aware too. I'm amazed he has the balls to attend and no one has slapped him about either, but that's by the by. |
It does get quite crowded in the toilets at half time. Would be a shame he he accidentally slipped. |  |
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| Get out of our club on 12:11 - May 8 with 4697 views | catch74 |
| Get out of our club on 11:56 - May 8 by clive_baker |
No that was someone else. He was a convinced nonce |
Blimey. | |
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| Get out of our club on 12:13 - May 8 with 4687 views | lunatic1988 |
| Get out of our club on 12:08 - May 8 by GlasgowBlue |
It does get quite crowded in the toilets at half time. Would be a shame he he accidentally slipped. |
Haha now that would be a shame wouldn’t it, it’s getting more and more common knowledge the club may have to ban him for his own safety. Someone will go for him soon. | | | |
| Get out of our club on 12:14 - May 8 with 4678 views | lunatic1988 |
| Get out of our club on 12:08 - May 8 by GlasgowBlue |
It does get quite crowded in the toilets at half time. Would be a shame he he accidentally slipped. |
I’m for the route of verbally abusing him, make him feel uncomfortable. Let him know his not welcome | | | |
| Get out of our club on 12:17 - May 8 with 4655 views | SitfcB |
For those that don’t know he was 12th_Man on here. |  |
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| Can you move this to general topic please (n/t) on 12:21 - May 8 with 4594 views | unstableblue |
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