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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? 13:23 - May 10 with 4649 viewsBigCommon

Signed 4 year deal at Utd in 2021, most likely KM may have had some input/influence on that.
Showed up here for a couple of weeks with a few other Utd youngsters, shortly after KMs arrival. (Imo, trusted by KM to show some of our youngsters, the sort of level/attitude, to aspire to..)
Looked a cut above the FGR, team he was loaned out to..
Tenacious, energetic, perhaps slightly ahead of Humphreys in his developement.
Part of "The Welsh Mafia", along with Broadhead, Burns, Evans.
Would fit the Ashton/future player trading profile?
He's got 2 years left on his Utd contract. And they will probably want to see him loaned out to at least a top L1 side or Championship side next season...
Just thought I'd throw it out there, as a possible..?



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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 13:26 - May 10 with 4328 viewsPlums

I'm not sure how we'd benefit from developing Man Ure's youngster over a couple of our own who are probably on a similar trajectory i.e Humphries and El Mizouni? Surely it would make more sense to drive their value up.

It's 106 miles to Portman Road, we've got a full tank of gas, half a round of Port Salut, it's dark... and we're wearing blue tinted sunglasses.
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 13:29 - May 10 with 4311 viewsArnoldMoorhen

But then some poor Town receptionist will have to be nice to his Dad, every time he shows up and parks his Lamborghini in one of the player's spots.

I can do without him strutting around Portman Road basking in the reflected glory.

Some things aren't worth the baggage they bring with them!
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 14:10 - May 10 with 4142 viewsJ2BLUE

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 13:29 - May 10 by ArnoldMoorhen

But then some poor Town receptionist will have to be nice to his Dad, every time he shows up and parks his Lamborghini in one of the player's spots.

I can do without him strutting around Portman Road basking in the reflected glory.

Some things aren't worth the baggage they bring with them!


The thing that has always made me laugh about Robbie is that he was always a 'former Birmingham' player whenever he was a pundit. Then Leicester won the league and suddenly he is 'former Leicester'. I know both are true but the re-brand amused me.

Truly impaired.
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 14:23 - May 10 with 4067 viewsStokieBlue

"Looked a cut above the FGR, team he was loaned out to.."

That team was awful though, lowest points haul in this division for about 20 years. He looked pretty average against us.

Why would you say he was ahead of Humphreys? The evidence I've seen wouldn't back that up - he wasn't in the young player of the year for the league for instance.

SB
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 14:29 - May 10 with 4017 viewsJ2BLUE

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 14:23 - May 10 by StokieBlue

"Looked a cut above the FGR, team he was loaned out to.."

That team was awful though, lowest points haul in this division for about 20 years. He looked pretty average against us.

Why would you say he was ahead of Humphreys? The evidence I've seen wouldn't back that up - he wasn't in the young player of the year for the league for instance.

SB


Agree. Overrated due to being in United's academy. If he isn't loaned back to league one I will be amazed.

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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 14:30 - May 10 with 4006 viewsVegtablue

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 14:23 - May 10 by StokieBlue

"Looked a cut above the FGR, team he was loaned out to.."

That team was awful though, lowest points haul in this division for about 20 years. He looked pretty average against us.

Why would you say he was ahead of Humphreys? The evidence I've seen wouldn't back that up - he wasn't in the young player of the year for the league for instance.

SB


Aye think Charlie's next loan should be to a competent L1 side like a Charlton.
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 14:32 - May 10 with 3990 viewswkj

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 14:30 - May 10 by Vegtablue

Aye think Charlie's next loan should be to a competent L1 side like a Charlton.


Or Norwich the season after

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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 14:41 - May 10 with 3937 viewsGeoffSentence

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 14:32 - May 10 by wkj

Or Norwich the season after


they said 'competent'

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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 16:52 - May 10 with 3724 viewsBigCommon

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 14:23 - May 10 by StokieBlue

"Looked a cut above the FGR, team he was loaned out to.."

That team was awful though, lowest points haul in this division for about 20 years. He looked pretty average against us.

Why would you say he was ahead of Humphreys? The evidence I've seen wouldn't back that up - he wasn't in the young player of the year for the league for instance.

SB


He broke into Utd first team set up with a couple of cameos, 18 months ago. Then went out on loan.. So imo, his path is slightly further ahead than CH, who most people are assuming will go out on loan next season.. I'd say he is slightly ahead. Don't know how many L1 appearances he's had with FGR. I'd say more than CH has had here , at a guess..Again, I'd say he's slightly ahead in that dept, too.
I'm not trying to compare their dick sizes. Just looking at both players, without blue tinted specs.
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:24 - May 10 with 3638 viewsStokieBlue

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 16:52 - May 10 by BigCommon

He broke into Utd first team set up with a couple of cameos, 18 months ago. Then went out on loan.. So imo, his path is slightly further ahead than CH, who most people are assuming will go out on loan next season.. I'd say he is slightly ahead. Don't know how many L1 appearances he's had with FGR. I'd say more than CH has had here , at a guess..Again, I'd say he's slightly ahead in that dept, too.
I'm not trying to compare their dick sizes. Just looking at both players, without blue tinted specs.


Bit of a hostile reply, the last sentence is childish in the extreme.

I've provided evidence of why he doesn't seem to be ahead (Humphreys was up for young player of the year, Savage wasn't even in the list). He's made 7 appearances over 2 seasons for United in the lowest form of cup competition (listed as "Other").

You've then attempted to make a point whilst admitting you haven't checked and you're wrong:

Savage - 14 appearances and 1 goal for FGR.
Humphreys - 19 appearances and 2 goals for ITFC where it's harder to get a game.

Probably best to do the research and get the evidence before having a pop at others.

With regards to whether we sign him on loan, we might, however I would be very surprised given he seems to be quite a bit behind Humphreys in a position we don't really need a loan.

SB
[Post edited 10 May 2023 17:26]
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:37 - May 10 with 3563 viewsBigCommon

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:24 - May 10 by StokieBlue

Bit of a hostile reply, the last sentence is childish in the extreme.

I've provided evidence of why he doesn't seem to be ahead (Humphreys was up for young player of the year, Savage wasn't even in the list). He's made 7 appearances over 2 seasons for United in the lowest form of cup competition (listed as "Other").

You've then attempted to make a point whilst admitting you haven't checked and you're wrong:

Savage - 14 appearances and 1 goal for FGR.
Humphreys - 19 appearances and 2 goals for ITFC where it's harder to get a game.

Probably best to do the research and get the evidence before having a pop at others.

With regards to whether we sign him on loan, we might, however I would be very surprised given he seems to be quite a bit behind Humphreys in a position we don't really need a loan.

SB
[Post edited 10 May 2023 17:26]


What is wrong with you...?
Read the OP...
I chucked Savages name out there for a bit of feed back on him...
You've somehow twisted the conversation into, " Why the fk do you hate Cam Humphreys"...Jeese man, chill out.

Comments were off the top of my head. And reflect my opinion. Why are you trying to convince me to have your opinion, when I've got my own...?
It's ok to disagree, you know..
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:41 - May 10 with 3547 viewsStokieBlue

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:37 - May 10 by BigCommon

What is wrong with you...?
Read the OP...
I chucked Savages name out there for a bit of feed back on him...
You've somehow twisted the conversation into, " Why the fk do you hate Cam Humphreys"...Jeese man, chill out.

Comments were off the top of my head. And reflect my opinion. Why are you trying to convince me to have your opinion, when I've got my own...?
It's ok to disagree, you know..


I've done no such thing.

You've literally said things that are false and I've presented the evidence to show they are false (appearances for instance). Correcting incorrect assumptions or statements should be seen as a good thing.

You seem to have some hostility issues so I'll leave it there.

SB
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:42 - May 10 with 3541 viewsSwansea_Blue

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 16:52 - May 10 by BigCommon

He broke into Utd first team set up with a couple of cameos, 18 months ago. Then went out on loan.. So imo, his path is slightly further ahead than CH, who most people are assuming will go out on loan next season.. I'd say he is slightly ahead. Don't know how many L1 appearances he's had with FGR. I'd say more than CH has had here , at a guess..Again, I'd say he's slightly ahead in that dept, too.
I'm not trying to compare their dick sizes. Just looking at both players, without blue tinted specs.


I read that as breaking into their first team setup with a couple of canoes. An interesting approach to football

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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:43 - May 10 with 3527 viewsSimonds92

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 16:52 - May 10 by BigCommon

He broke into Utd first team set up with a couple of cameos, 18 months ago. Then went out on loan.. So imo, his path is slightly further ahead than CH, who most people are assuming will go out on loan next season.. I'd say he is slightly ahead. Don't know how many L1 appearances he's had with FGR. I'd say more than CH has had here , at a guess..Again, I'd say he's slightly ahead in that dept, too.
I'm not trying to compare their dick sizes. Just looking at both players, without blue tinted specs.


He's not very good. He may be able to play at champ level in future but not currently. Reminiscent of Tunnicliffe, neat and tidy but doesnt do anything.
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:44 - May 10 with 3526 viewstractordownsouth

Definitely a good player but not what we need with the competition in that position. He'll probably get a loan to a top L1 team next year.

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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:46 - May 10 with 3513 viewsJ2BLUE

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:37 - May 10 by BigCommon

What is wrong with you...?
Read the OP...
I chucked Savages name out there for a bit of feed back on him...
You've somehow twisted the conversation into, " Why the fk do you hate Cam Humphreys"...Jeese man, chill out.

Comments were off the top of my head. And reflect my opinion. Why are you trying to convince me to have your opinion, when I've got my own...?
It's ok to disagree, you know..


Well? Why DO you hate him?

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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:50 - May 10 with 3495 viewsBigCommon

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:41 - May 10 by StokieBlue

I've done no such thing.

You've literally said things that are false and I've presented the evidence to show they are false (appearances for instance). Correcting incorrect assumptions or statements should be seen as a good thing.

You seem to have some hostility issues so I'll leave it there.

SB


How have I said things that are false?
I literally used the phrase " I'm guessing"..
Stop twisting it ....
Besides, I was referring to L1 appearances. Not sure how they tally up either, before you accuse me of lying, again.
Tell you what..... I hearby declare never to compare one of our youngsters to another player of similar age, from any other club..... Happy now?
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:57 - May 10 with 3457 viewsStokieBlue

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:50 - May 10 by BigCommon

How have I said things that are false?
I literally used the phrase " I'm guessing"..
Stop twisting it ....
Besides, I was referring to L1 appearances. Not sure how they tally up either, before you accuse me of lying, again.
Tell you what..... I hearby declare never to compare one of our youngsters to another player of similar age, from any other club..... Happy now?


Not really no, I'm happy for you to compare youngsters.

All I've done is point out that you've based your opinion on something that you were guessing and that was wrong (L1 appearances).

I've literally listed the L1 appearances in my post so I can only assume that in your rush to declare my posts as "twisting" you've not bothered reading it all.

SB
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 18:59 - May 10 with 3348 viewsReusersTown

There's so much twoddle in there I don't know where to start!
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 20:07 - May 10 with 3192 viewsBigCommon

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:57 - May 10 by StokieBlue

Not really no, I'm happy for you to compare youngsters.

All I've done is point out that you've based your opinion on something that you were guessing and that was wrong (L1 appearances).

I've literally listed the L1 appearances in my post so I can only assume that in your rush to declare my posts as "twisting" you've not bothered reading it all.

SB


"Why "Do" you hate Cam Humphreys?"
Sounds pretty twisted to me..
Since you started one of your replies off, by calling me "hostile", which I wasn't trying to be, btw. I can only assume, that playing the victim, is your comfort zone. Before having a pop, yourself? See also Vladamir Putin.
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 20:15 - May 10 with 3161 viewsStokieBlue

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 20:07 - May 10 by BigCommon

"Why "Do" you hate Cam Humphreys?"
Sounds pretty twisted to me..
Since you started one of your replies off, by calling me "hostile", which I wasn't trying to be, btw. I can only assume, that playing the victim, is your comfort zone. Before having a pop, yourself? See also Vladamir Putin.


I never said that so you can apologise for making something up and then apologise again for comparing me to Putin.

Frankly it's a disgusting thing to say and you should be ashamed.

SB
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 20:22 - May 10 with 3139 viewsFrimleyBlue

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 17:24 - May 10 by StokieBlue

Bit of a hostile reply, the last sentence is childish in the extreme.

I've provided evidence of why he doesn't seem to be ahead (Humphreys was up for young player of the year, Savage wasn't even in the list). He's made 7 appearances over 2 seasons for United in the lowest form of cup competition (listed as "Other").

You've then attempted to make a point whilst admitting you haven't checked and you're wrong:

Savage - 14 appearances and 1 goal for FGR.
Humphreys - 19 appearances and 2 goals for ITFC where it's harder to get a game.

Probably best to do the research and get the evidence before having a pop at others.

With regards to whether we sign him on loan, we might, however I would be very surprised given he seems to be quite a bit behind Humphreys in a position we don't really need a loan.

SB
[Post edited 10 May 2023 17:26]


BTW I prefer Cam to Savage

But just to point out.. was it harder for cam to get a game for town when we had no midfielders other than him to choose from.

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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 20:23 - May 10 with 3135 viewsMullet

Can't imagine he's anywhere near the calibre we're looking at.

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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 20:29 - May 10 with 3116 viewsStokieBlue

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 20:22 - May 10 by FrimleyBlue

BTW I prefer Cam to Savage

But just to point out.. was it harder for cam to get a game for town when we had no midfielders other than him to choose from.


I think if you look at it objectively then Humphreys would be starting at FGR against the competition that Savage had.

FGR are one of the poorest teams to play in this league in decades.

SB
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Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 07:49 - May 11 with 2771 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Thoughts on Charlie Savage..Possible loan, loan to buy..? on 20:15 - May 10 by StokieBlue

I never said that so you can apologise for making something up and then apologise again for comparing me to Putin.

Frankly it's a disgusting thing to say and you should be ashamed.

SB


I never thought this thread would go *there* and we are still only on Page 1!

Why can't we all shake hands and agree that Robbie Savage is *almost* as bad as Putin and leave it there?
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