| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? 19:04 - May 30 with 6559 views | chicoazul |
TV fraud gang jailed for illegally streaming Premier League games https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65697595
What say you TWTD? [Post edited 30 May 2023 19:04]
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 22:33 - May 30 with 2615 views | BlueBadger |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 22:30 - May 30 by chicoazul |
I see you haven’t changed. Still making really dumb strawman arguments. |
...and that's bad because that's YOUR thing? |  |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 22:48 - May 30 with 2582 views | BonchosBicycle |
The 3 p.m. blackout in the UK will have to go eventually. It doesn't even make much sense any more. What's stopping most fans going to games today is cost and availability. I don't really have a dog in this fight as being located in the US I haven't had those issues but if I get back home this year on holiday, I'm not sure I'll even be able to get a ticket for one of the maybe two games I'll be there for.
Actually going to the game will always be preferable for most people if they can make it. It's so much more than 90 mins of football. Allowing clubs to stream 3 p.m. games I think would be of benefit to most at all levels.*
*No data to back this up |  | | |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 23:50 - May 30 with 2542 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 22:30 - May 30 by chicoazul |
I see you haven’t changed. Still making really dumb strawman arguments. |
Glad to see the spirit of reconciliation and happiness.
You've been away from my missives for so long you don't understand what a strawman argument is.
But you've always been dumb. |  |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 02:41 - May 31 with 2506 views | Illinoisblue |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 21:49 - May 30 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You've never broken the law then? |
Literally just tonight I got a speeding ticket. Going 37 in a 25 zone. I picked the wrong day to sit in judgement. [Post edited 31 May 2023 3:12]
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 03:06 - May 31 with 2496 views | Kropotkin123 |
If they were working class heroes they'd be doing it for free, not profiting to the tune of £7m! |  |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 06:51 - May 31 with 2442 views | yesjohn99 |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 21:32 - May 30 by Illinoisblue |
Criminal scum. And the people using their illegal services aren’t much better. |
Plonker. |  | | |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 09:46 - May 31 with 2355 views | MattinLondon |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 06:51 - May 31 by yesjohn99 |
Plonker. |
Like it or not he has a valid point. By giving criminal gangs money, they are helping them (the criminals) to fund their lifestyle. |  | | |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 09:48 - May 31 with 2351 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 09:46 - May 31 by MattinLondon |
Like it or not he has a valid point. By giving criminal gangs money, they are helping them (the criminals) to fund their lifestyle. |
Yes and you can be sure they aren’t giving 40pc of the proceeds to HMRC, I’m sure they use our hospitals and roads though! | | | |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 09:49 - May 31 with 2349 views | the_toff |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 20:34 - May 30 by wkj |
"One of them, Christopher Felvus, 36, was also found guilty of voyeurism and possessing indecent images of children, discovered on his computer."
Question answered. |
He'll probably get punished more heavily from streaming football than being a nonce. Messed up justice system. | | | |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 09:56 - May 31 with 2335 views | usm |
Well, this should be good............. |  |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 09:58 - May 31 with 2332 views | solemio |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 20:56 - May 30 by Nthsuffolkblue |
You are against all taxes?
You wish for their to be no public services nor form of Government whatsoever. |
Oh, come on. We don't need a Health Service; children don't need an education, etc, etc. | | | |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 10:11 - May 31 with 2311 views | baxterbasics |
It is organised crime and needed firm action - although 11 years for illegal streaming seems a bit much, convicted rapists get less.
Glad they chose to not go after the end users though. And the 'gap in the market' is a fair point - there should be more legal ways to view these games. |  |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 10:12 - May 31 with 2307 views | textbackup |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 09:48 - May 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Yes and you can be sure they aren’t giving 40pc of the proceeds to HMRC, I’m sure they use our hospitals and roads though! |
As do many people in the country who hide and stick money elsewhere so they don’t need to.
Some of them in powerful positions in governments.
If I’m giving £70 to someone I know who I’m picking |  |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 10:31 - May 31 with 2261 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 10:12 - May 31 by textbackup |
As do many people in the country who hide and stick money elsewhere so they don’t need to.
Some of them in powerful positions in governments.
If I’m giving £70 to someone I know who I’m picking |
Me? | |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 12:45 - May 31 with 2191 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 21:01 - May 30 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Yeah I'm intrigued by this.
Against all taxes?!
Going by this ones previous posting history I can only assume he's a well off 'I'm alright Jack' Tory. |
No reply from them at all.
What the argument of the 'I'm alright Jack' Tory misses is that everyone (even them) benefits from a healthy, well run society. They won't get the same productivity and benefits without good public services. They will also have family, friends and acquaintances who would suffer greatly from lack of them.
This 'I'm alright Jack' Tory line is very short-sighted. |  |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 13:21 - May 31 with 2167 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 12:45 - May 31 by Nthsuffolkblue |
No reply from them at all.
What the argument of the 'I'm alright Jack' Tory misses is that everyone (even them) benefits from a healthy, well run society. They won't get the same productivity and benefits without good public services. They will also have family, friends and acquaintances who would suffer greatly from lack of them.
This 'I'm alright Jack' Tory line is very short-sighted. |
Which is why I'm not Tory.
I can understand those who are though. It's a dog-eat-dog world, I can understand the draw to protect your own first. My own dad's like that, Lady Dollers' entire family is like that, our own lovable Glassers is like that. Particularly when you're well off, protect what you have, why wouldn't you?
Thing is, if we all look after each other then you don't really need to protect your own, everyone's in a good place. I do realise that's a somewhat unrealistic utopia though. | |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 13:23 - May 31 with 2165 views | noggin |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 19:27 - May 30 by Churchman |
Criminals. They knew what they were doing, got caught, jail. Simple really. There’s nothing heroic about stealing in any way, shape or form. |
The PL stole football from the working class years ago, sadly. |  |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 13:43 - May 31 with 2149 views | itfc_bucks |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 10:11 - May 31 by baxterbasics |
It is organised crime and needed firm action - although 11 years for illegal streaming seems a bit much, convicted rapists get less.
Glad they chose to not go after the end users though. And the 'gap in the market' is a fair point - there should be more legal ways to view these games. |
I'm not sure what they'd go after the end users for. The offence, as I understand it, is "making available", not the actual act of watching it.
Happy to be told I'm wrong.
Not because I have one, of course.... | | | |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 13:52 - May 31 with 2136 views | MattinLondon |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 13:23 - May 31 by noggin |
The PL stole football from the working class years ago, sadly. |
If football was the sport of the working classes and was affordable- how come, compared to now, not that many people went? | | | |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 14:00 - May 31 with 2123 views | baxterbasics |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 13:52 - May 31 by MattinLondon |
If football was the sport of the working classes and was affordable- how come, compared to now, not that many people went? |
I'm pretty sure if you go far back enough before the days of health and safety, there were some colossal crowds at big football matches. | |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 14:02 - May 31 with 2119 views | MattinLondon |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 14:00 - May 31 by baxterbasics |
I'm pretty sure if you go far back enough before the days of health and safety, there were some colossal crowds at big football matches. |
Agreed.
Was thinking more about the 70s/80s. | | | |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 14:34 - May 31 with 2079 views | usm |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 13:43 - May 31 by itfc_bucks |
I'm not sure what they'd go after the end users for. The offence, as I understand it, is "making available", not the actual act of watching it.
Happy to be told I'm wrong.
Not because I have one, of course.... |
Thats true but the end users are enabling the criminals, so although its not an offence it is morally wrong. | |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 14:57 - May 31 with 2030 views | noggin |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 14:02 - May 31 by MattinLondon |
Agreed.
Was thinking more about the 70s/80s. |
Crowd trouble and being treated like cattle? | |
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| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 16:35 - May 31 with 1979 views | Churchman |
| Working class heroes or awful organised criminals? on 13:23 - May 31 by noggin |
The PL stole football from the working class years ago, sadly. |
Agreed. Actually they stole it from just about everybody sadly, but it doesn’t make illegal streaming activities right. |  | | |
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